Yuppie's DEILD guide - The easiest way to lucid dream.

Bill - Aha, it's funny like that, isn't it?! I've had nights where I've went to bed at like 2am, with no intention of a lucid dream, and had multiple!
It works both ways though, you try your heart out sometimes, and you have no luck. Hahahaha! Good old cowboy movies :P

Recon - You're more than welcome mate, don't mention it. It's a pleasure!
Please ensure you tell me how it goes :D

Also, on a side note: this is the FOUR HUNDREDTH post on this thread!
I want to thank each and every one of you for the activity and attention you've paid to my guide.
Anyway, as a little surprise, I have some news for you guys!
I'M GOING BACK TO LUCID DREAMING AGAIN. Yew!!!
So, I quit several months ago due to life commitments, such as my job and school work. However, hearing about your adventures has really got me keen!
I can't wait to begin practising DEILD again. So once again, thanks a million! There's no way I could have done it without you guys.

Welcome home Yuppie :)
And I dunnit again, I finally managed two sleep cycles out of the night and woke up to the smell of the loaf of bread in the convection oven and I often nap during baking depending on the oven timer to wake me up, It didnt but it dont hurt the bread, When I I sat up on the edge of the bed to get my bearings I noticed the red haired girl that was sleeping beside me :P Then I knew there was no bread and got back in bed with her and woke up proper.

I'm not trying to hijack your thread Yuppie :) Just a note to those that try it.
Something came to mind in the last of the four 3 minute episodes before my tummy gurgling woke me up last night, The "Hypnosis for lucid dreaming" (from Youtube) I mentioned usually works fine and I doubt that even the author realizes it is actually an astral projection. She leads you to another bed and you snuggle off to sleep there while your conscious mind sits back smugly watching you wake up over there which is quite fun and usually quickly reverts into a nice lucid dream..
In the last quick episode I woke up floating above a grey/violet floor with an inviting but ever expanding black hole in it. For the inexperienced in AP this may be a good time to spin out into another dream or wake up. This inviting vortex is the portal from the astral plane to the dark places with hell below that and unless you have learned to dispel evil forces you could wake up in one really bad nightmare :( I have been there before and would normally hop right in but waking up is the easiest way out !

Yuppie, it's good to hear that you are back!

Last night I woke up after 3-5 dreams. After each dream I moved so I thought it was hopeless and fell asleep. So today I went searching on the forums and found that moving does not sabatage your chances for DEILD. Now that I know that I feel like I'm going to have LD's every night hahaha! :D

Yay Yuppie :D . It will all come back to you quickly I'm sure. It's still there in your mind!

On another note, I'm still sick but getting better. Waking up multiple times each night this weekend with my eyes closed and still, but not feeling that good. Being sick is just no fun D:.

Bill - Have you seen the movie insidious?! Fuck Astral Projection! I'm terrified of that shit. Hahahaha!
Could you explain to me the difference between Astral Projection, and lucid dreaming?
*Shock, gasp, horror.* That's right, I don't know everything ;)

Recon - That's exactly right! The reason we attempt to refrain from moving, is just so we can fall asleep easier.
To put it succinctly, anything that may make it difficult to fall back asleep, should be prevented.
However, a bit of movement doesn't matter in the slightest! :)

Dragon - Turns out you're exactly right! I've retained heaps of my experience, it's great. Last night I woke up several times with my eyes shut, perfectly still.
Perhaps you can turn being sick, into a positive thing. Occasionally I like to dedicate a few days exclusively towards the contributing aspects of lucidity.
So, if you're not in the mood to lucid dream, why not consider refining your current skills? E.G: Hone your ability to stay still, try some mantras, or just focus on your dream recollection, which I'm sure you're aware can suffer a bit, when you're practising DEILD. Regardless of what you do, make sure you tell me how you're doing :)

As for me, my first night back to lucid dreaming went well. I was stunned how well I did, after such a lengthy break.
The thing that irritates me about DEILD, is that I fall asleep too easily. No matter how bloody hard I try to stay aware, I always struggle to not fall asleep!
Like, I'll assure myself that I'll fall asleep, so all I have to do is stay aware. But yeah, sometimes it doesn't work.
Ah well, I should stay positive. Worked out well for my first night, anyway.!

That's great for your first night getting back into it yuppie! As for me, last night I woke up 4-5 times. The first time I didn't move a muscle but I did not enter a dream. Maybe it was because I was in an awkward position. It also could've been that I was thinking way to much because I couldn't remember my last dream so I was trying to think of new dreamscapes and I kept changing my mind. ;)

That's excellent! :)
I'd suggest determining what you intend to do, prior to falling asleep. A segment of time before you fall asleep should be dedicated towards affirming your goals, and mantras.
Awkward positions won't destroy your lucid dreams in any way, however your mentality will. Dreaming is a purely mental activity, but if you're not comfortable there may be some stigma attached as to how you perform. Just to be clear, did you not fall asleep, or did you just fail to re-enter into a lucid?!

Yeah today when I woke up I thought it would be good to have a planed place. Thanks for reminding me to do it before I go to bed because I wouldn't of thought of that! :)

The reason I mentioned the awkward position because I woke up with one arm up and it was distracting hahaha! I didn't fall asleep:I just had to throw in the towel by moving and going to bed normally. It was a shame because as soon as I awoke and didn't move I could kindve see a dreamscape with tunnel vision but as soon as I realized my arm was awkwardly up I broke from the scape. I agree with you, mentality is everything!! :)

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Bill - Have you seen the movie insidious?! Fuck Astral Projection! I'm terrified of that shit. Hahahaha!
Could you explain to me the difference between Astral Projection, and lucid dreaming?
*Shock, gasp, horror.* That's right, I don't know everything ;)
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So you got me, I watched "Insidious" Fortunately its Hollywood..Obviously written by someone well read on LD and AP
but about 10% truth and 89% fiction..... It;s that 1% that confounds us :P

Haha! Did you enjoy it? :)
It definitely put me off AP forever :P

Not sure on what an AP actually is and what Insidious had to do with it ^^. I watched the end of the movie, but have no idea what it's about.

Anyways, My issue I found was that I was concentrating too much, and I became fully awake instead of going back to sleep :\.

Yeah, I liked it ok, I just hope it didnt scare you into missing a lot of fun..
Whoever wrote it knew about turning around and seeing your body laying there sleeping. She knew that AP is from a hypnotic trance and she did know about the dark places although its not much like that. But demons are solitary and do not like humans, I have encountered only 2 demons up close, One a black,winged,doglike critter the other apparently a Baslisk. Both were shiny black and had a brilliant red mouth lining. Demons can pose a danger to a very few humans and only come if accidentally summoned or conjured up and usually you just stand your ground and tell them to go away, You do not want them. They look threatening but go away.
Demons are more powerful than humans but I made friends with my first DC, A movie monster and I had him stomp one that didnt want to go. Thats in our dream world, the astral plane... One on his own turf is the other 1% I mentioned but wheres your spirit of adventure :P.

That's a shame Dragon! It's all about that balance ;C
Mantras mantras mantras? Hahahaha!

Bill - That's really cool, I might give it a go sometime.
However, I know nothing about it.
I have plenty of lucid experience, but almost nothing about Astral Projection :P

Not much I would add, Something to read up on. Free reading on it at Gnosis | SamaelGnosis - Instituto Cultural Quetzalcoatl.

For Yuppie **Holy Shit**You and your DEILD's....heee-hee :P
I didnt sleep all night until 4:30am and got up late about 9:30 so I took a map about 1:00pm and had a dream I didnt recall because I could see a good DEILD in the making and the ensuing dream was a sex dream yet. I first put on the digital recorder I keep in the bed then edited it on the computer and it has taken over an hour to record it in my journal, Then I wondered just how long it really was and decided to print it and it took just under 3 pages of size#14 print.... :P

That's absolutely incredible.
A dream of that length is remarkable, I've never even come close to three pages. :P
Super vivid, I presume?

The longest one I've written is about a page with large and sloppy writing xD.

Oh-boy, Vivid as real life for the DEILD part. This one started out bad so I changed it, Something I rarely do.
I seldom have chain dreams, I think that's my second one, I have another back a few months ago in my journal I think I posted on my DJ's here that spanned three sleep cycles and the whole US, It was set before the days of computers and before I became domesticated sumat, Three guys running from the law from here to California down the backroads in an old jalopy pickup gaining girls along the way and not so far from true sometimes in what I call a past. It actually would make a decent movie.
Look in my dream journal about longest dream or something, I think its there :P

I forget to mention sometimes that I'm a retired old fart and unlike a job slave I have the time to devote to LD, AP, or to study the ways of the ancients and Monks or whatever else I want to do. I guess that's not cheating but it hardly seems fair either, Of course I had never heard of Lucid Dreaming before I stumbled onto DV's back in April by accident..

Yeah, that'd be really helpful Bill.
I have a job, and school, so it's difficult sometimes.
Although, now that we're in holidays I have a lot more time to dedicate!
DEILD has been going well so far, it's a bit frustrating though. My problem is that I fall asleep too easily, and I lose awareness.
Ideally, all that I really need to do is affirm that I must stay aware, but it just doesn't work.
It's only been a few days though, I'm making good progress. :)

Last night went quite well :D !

First, I remembered my dreams (unlike last night :P . Silly cat waking me up multiple times). One of my dreams, I suddenly just became aware I was dreaming. The feel sort of changed. I woke up immediately though :\. It was nice though. First 'lucid' dream since I got back into this. I woke up though eyes closed and perfectly still, and I just imagined where I just was. It was pretty much perfect, and I could feel myself starting to transition. I can't explain what I felt, and I remember hearing a couple beeps or something, not sure xD. I lost concentration though. Definitely the closest I have come. 2 nearly lucid dreams :D !

Dang, I did this once and closed the page...
Yuppie, Yesterday was an exception, Last night was back to the slack dreams, Mostly from lack of adequate sleep.

Dragon, Those beeps will be important sometime for you, Those or the sound of surf are the point to be careful NOT to fall asleep in AP, That is the point at which you start the EHIPTO mantra silently rolling in your mind and look for a red triangle doorway or a door that looks like a Tarot card and focus on it and project thru it, Do a quick circle to the right and youre on your way :P

And now this.
Some time ago I got a kind of nasty reply when I mentioned those old mantra's as to why do that in a foreign language when we be would just as well off to make up our own in our language. And I really did not have an answer for him then but those old mantras like "RAOM-GAOM" for recall or "EHIPTO" (very powerful) for projection and "TAE-RE-RE" for conjuring which are all used silently are my bread and butter :P (All three of those are powerful)
Note(if you have ever fallen asleep with a song in your head you just cant shake, That's what I mean by silently)
Anyway: My answer to the nasty guy now is...
In our home-brew mantras we say what we mean, In the mantras given us by people who have been doing it since childhood and it's a full time job each letter has a given power and they just arranged the letters to make them possible to sound out and they are not real words in any language. :)

Oh yeah, Before I forget... There were two brown demons (earth demons) with teeth bared blocking the red triangle doorway last night and I told them I was going to kick their teeth in if they didnt move,.......They moved :P

Congratulations Dragon, I bet you're happy about that! :)
The first lucid is always encouraging, because it reminds you what you're capable of, and that you can still do it!
I'm confident that you're well on your way to many more.
It's kind of cool actually, because I HAD A LUCID AS WELL LAST NIGHT! Yew!! :)
Haha! I'm really happy about it, it's good to be back in the shake of things.
I realised how fucking terrible my dream recall is, so unfortunately I may have to dedicate a few days to recollection.
I'm super happy though!
You may read about it here, if you'd like: The Return Of Yuppie! - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views
Great progress guys! I think we should all be happy with our results so far. Thanks for the support :D