Yuppie's DEILD guide - The easiest way to lucid dream.

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Originally Posted by Mellanhavande

Thanks for sharing, I'm definitely trying DEILD tonight. But I still don't understand that part when you need to wake up. I didn't read all the comments so I'm gonna ask - can I turn off the alarm? Or that will ruin everything? And what about timer, does it turns off by it self? And for how long it will ring?

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With an alarm you want autosnooze (ideally, so you don't have to move) or minimal physical interaction (just shake it), just barely enough to wake you up enough to realize what's going on so you can grab some awareness and head right back into a dream, hopefully with lucidity intact.

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Originally Posted by lucidmats

Yuppie I had a similar dream!
Was the blogger youtube guy named Matthew Santoro? And did you dip the nachos in some sauce? :D

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Sorry, what dream are you referring to?
I can't really be bothered scrolling back through the thread :P

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Originally Posted by FryingMan

With an alarm you want autosnooze (ideally, so you don't have to move) or minimal physical interaction (just shake it), just barely enough to wake you up enough to realize what's going on so you can grab some awareness and head right back into a dream, hopefully with lucidity intact.

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Pretty much this.
My Iphone alarm for example, I can turn of literally by sliding my finger across the screen.

Another factor is where you are on the spectrum of falling asleep. If, for instance, you fall asleep too easily and fail to become lucid, you may wish to use a more 'disruptive' alarm system so that you can focus a bit more. If you have difficulty getting back to sleep, make sure your alarm is pretty much negligible.

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Originally Posted by yuppie11975

I'm too lazy to upload this exert into my Dreamview's Journal - so here's a copy and paste from my most recent entry. (Last Saturday)

Recording device states: "I just had a dream about fat people, and a YouTube guy, and nachos and a shooting video game with guns"

From what I can recall:

The dream about fat people was about being in this room with a bunch of obese humans. From memory, I believe that they were all taking their respective turns to be weighed, or something along those lines. This dream was separate from all the others.

The YouTube guy, the videogame, and the Doritos were all merged into the one dream. I was sitting on the floor listening to some familiar blogger, whom I can't recall, just rattle on about some sort of jargon. Eventually I was moving around in these vents, or some other restrictive space, and participating in a sort of FPS.

The following weren't documented on my recording device.

I was inside a game of COD zombies basically. The map was centred around this old-timely church... It was eerie as fuck. Initially two other people were playing along side of me, but one of them left the game, and the other one was on pause; although I never saw him after he paused. The zombies chased me, and despite my best attempts to shoot all of them, they eventually just tormented me by running after me and whispering creepy shit - mostly with a religious thematic.

Finally, probably brought on by Ancient History studies about the Persian/Greek wars, I witnessed a battle between Xerxes and Leonidas. It was basically in third person, but instead of the general war, both armies were reduced to the size of around fifty. They began charging at each other, but that's all I can remember.

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This one!

I recently had my first memorable lucid dream using this technique, so thanks yuppie! I have a question though... When you say in the guide that you feel like you might not be able to get back to sleep after waking up, what are you supposed to do? I'm a little confused on that.

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Originally Posted by morrilet

I recently had my first memorable lucid dream using this technique, so thanks yuppie! I have a question though... When you say in the guide that you feel like you might not be able to get back to sleep after waking up, what are you supposed to do? I'm a little confused on that.

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I'm not even entirely sure man. The guide was written years ago.
I was probably referring simply to falling asleep when you wake up and you're attempting a DEILD. For instance, maybe you're struggling to fall back asleep from the excitement of trying out for your lucid dream or whatever. Like I said though, I'm not even 100% sure. It doesn't sound too important though - so don't think too much of it. Don't stress.

Also, wow. Congratulations! I'm so happy to hear that you had your first memorable lucid dream! I'm even happier that I could help.
Have fun with the countless others you'll have - and always stay motivated and positive! Good luck! :)

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Originally Posted by lucidmats

This one!

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Sorry, what do you mean?

Just going to bump this real quick - now that I intend to commit to this guide and help others out more actively.

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Originally Posted by yuppie11975

Just going to bump this real quick - now that I intend to commit to this guide and help others out more actively.

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Well it's about goddam time :P
Where you been down there anyways, I thought the bush buggers got you :yddd:

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Originally Posted by woblybil

Well it's about goddam time :P
Where you been down there anyways, I thought the bush buggers got you :yddd:

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The bush buggers haven't got me quite yet!
Just been really busy with a bunch of things. I'm graduating from high school in around two months - and then I'm off to university next year.
I also got my drivers license a few weeks ago! :D

I hope you've been keeping well, and great dreams with lots of beautiful women are coming your way!

I really can't wake up without moving. Seriously, it one of the hardest thing I've tried in my life. Please help I already have tried a mantra, but the results are never good. I've even taken up meditating. I don't know how people are able to wake up without moving within a couple of days. I once tried using DEILD for a month, but waking up right always prevents it from working. I've now taken up Deild again, but once again waking up completly still never works.

I think waking up absolutely still is not a 100% requirement for DEILD, maintaining a sleepy/dreaming mindset is also very important. Who said anything learning to do this only taking "days?" I don't think anything in LDing can be sufficiently mastered in "days." Keep working on it, and you'll get better and better. Make sure you deeply feel it's *important* to you to notice your waking process and your brain's goal center will help you with reaching this goal.

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Originally Posted by LDleader

I really can't wake up without moving. Seriously, it one of the hardest thing I've tried in my life. Please help I already have tried a mantra, but the results are never good. I've even taken up meditating. I don't know how people are able to wake up without moving within a couple of days. I once tried using DEILD for a month, but waking up right always prevents it from working. I've now taken up Deild again, but once again waking up completly still never works.

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Frying Man's advice is pretty solid.
Basically - just keep working on it. Carefully analyse what you're doing, and search for ways to build on improving your chances.
Stay calm, positive and motivated.

I've only had one DEILD, it was accidental, and it was one of the most vivid dreams I've ever had, I need to have more >_< But I can't seem to even wake up after a dream or during REM anymore, let alone wake up and stay still with eyes closed. I've only tried for 2-3 days so far though, so hoping my subconscious will get the idea to wake up during the night eventually.
And I see this thread has 43 pages.. phew, gotta start reading through it, maybe someone else had this problem and found a solution..

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Originally Posted by mimihigurashi

I've only had one DEILD, it was accidental, and it was one of the most vivid dreams I've ever had, I need to have more >_< But I can't seem to even wake up after a dream or during REM anymore, let alone wake up and stay still with eyes closed. I've only tried for 2-3 days so far though, so hoping my subconscious will get the idea to wake up during the night eventually.
And I see this thread has 43 pages.. phew, gotta start reading through it, maybe someone else had this problem and found a solution..

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Well, like you've said, if you've been at it for 2 - 3 days, I definitely wouldn't seal your coffin just yet.
Personally, I tried for around a month until I got my first DEILD. It REALLY pays off once you get there though, (for reasons that have already been covered in the guide).

Anyway, I'd suggest trying auto-suggestion, and some mantras.
You're waking up at several points during the night, you're just not consciously realising that you're waking up.

But, most importantly, just keep at it, and I'm sure you'll be able to conquer your road block.

Also, quick general update...

Ever since I stopped intentionally lucid dreaming around a year ago, my activity around DreamViews has dwindled.
However, I still stop by every few days to answer questions and try to help others out.
That being said, I even struggle to give advice these days, because I've forgotten so much after being out of action.

Regardless, I'm very proud that this guide has over sixty thousand views, and that many many people have managed to learn to DEILD here.
It's great that we have our own micro-community around here, and I'll always try my best to do whatever I can to keep things going on this thread.

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by yuppie11975

Well, like you've said, if you've been at it for 2 - 3 days, I definitely wouldn't seal your coffin just yet.
Personally, I tried for around a month until I got my first DEILD. It REALLY pays off once you get there though, (for reasons that have already been covered in the guide).

Anyway, I'd suggest trying auto-suggestion, and some mantras.
You're waking up at several points during the night, you're just not consciously realising that you're waking up.

But, most importantly, just keep at it, and I'm sure you'll be able to conquer your road block.

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Yeah I'll definitely keep trying. This morning I managed to wake up at least once, but I woke up and immediately moved and then a few seconds later realized I was supposed to lay still and try DEILD, lol. So it gets easier to wake up and remain unmoved the more you try it?

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Originally Posted by mimihigurashi

So it gets easier to wake up and remain unmoved the more you try it?

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Of course it does. Has your ability to walk improved since infancy? Can you cook better now than when you were twelve?

Practice makes perfect.

The fact that you managed to wake up at least once last night sounds like plain and simple progress to me.

Also, you probably could have gave your DEILD a shot, considering you realised a few seconds later. There's a personal spectrum for everyone, where you have a varying degree of struggles to fall asleep because mind is on DEILD or struggles not to fall asleep without DEILD-ing because they're too tired and their thought process isn't strong enough

But alas, keep me updated, and I'm sure we'll get there!

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Originally Posted by yuppie11975

Of course it does. Has your ability to walk improved since infancy? Can you cook better now than when you were twelve?

Practice makes perfect.

The fact that you managed to wake up at least once last night sounds like plain and simple progress to me.

Also, you probably could have gave your DEILD a shot, considering you realised a few seconds later. There's a personal spectrum for everyone, where you have a varying degree of struggles to fall asleep because mind is on DEILD or struggles not to fall asleep without DEILD-ing because they're too tired and their thought process isn't strong enough

But alas, keep me updated, and I'm sure we'll get there!

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Yep, you're right. This morning it happened again, haha, woke up but moved and then remembered that I wasn't supposed to. I'll give it a shot regardless of moving then. I still had a short DILD, it was probably because of the increased awareness due to waking up in the middle of the night, at least partially. Will keep it up, thanks for making the guide btw, it's great and simple to understand, especially nice that it reminded me that DEILD exists, lol.

I'm having trouble remembering to stay still when I wake up. I have set up my alarm clock to auto-dismiss so I don't have to touch it but every time I wake up I move around immediately and only then do I recall my intention to DEILD... it's really frustrating. Can you give me some tips on how to remain calm and still as soon as you wake up and how to steer yourself into a lucid dream. Thanks!

Maybe you could try waking up naturally? It sounds like the alarm is really prompting you to move around.
Are you using mantras?

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Originally Posted by yuppie11975

Maybe you could try waking up naturally? It sounds like the alarm is really prompting you to move around.
Are you using mantras?

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I am using a simple mantra when I'm lying down trying to fall asleep. I have trouble falling asleep and it sometimes takes me over an hour, so should I keep saying it over and over in my mind until I fall asleep or does it not matter?

I've decided to wake up 3 hours after I sleep for the next 2 weeks so I can naturally wake up after a period of time in order to DEILD. It has only been 3 days but I have been consistently waking up 4 hours later, but unfortunately I keep forgetting to stay still..

Maybe it is just a matter of practise?

Yeah, I can definitely say that continuing to practice is almost certainly going to allow you to break through your roadblock.
You're enthusiasm is great - it's the type of attitude that makes you succeed.
Keep me posted on your progress, and I'm sure that we'll be able to get you your first DEILD together.

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Originally Posted by yuppie11975

Yeah, I can definitely say that continuing to practice is almost certainly going to allow you to break through your roadblock.
You're enthusiasm is great - it's the type of attitude that makes you succeed.
Keep me posted on your progress, and I'm sure that we'll be able to get you your first DEILD together.

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So I managed to wake up naturally today and because I was so tired I did not move a muscle. I just let go and imagined myself drifting back to sleep, or more appropriately back into a dream. And sure enough I went back into the same dream I was having before I woke up. However, I did not become lucid despite having that intention. Guess I have to keep trying.

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Originally Posted by starship

So I managed to wake up naturally today and because I was so tired I did not move a muscle. I just let go and imagined myself drifting back to sleep, or more appropriately back into a dream. And sure enough I went back into the same dream I was having before I woke up. However, I did not become lucid despite having that intention. Guess I have to keep trying.

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That's some pretty solid progress.
I mean, c'mon, you were literally one step away from a DEILD.
Maybe tighten up on your intent to re-enter your dream a little more.