Originally Posted by
Ctharlhie
@Cosmic; I've had a lucid dream every time I've used SSILD with WBTB. While I'm not sure whether I would have had the LDs if my induction attempts weren't backed up by meditation and lucid living, according to you SSILD is impaired by any other awareness work, I may try it alone next week. Regardless of the nuances, this has legs for sure, it's only the second day of the week and I've already hit my goal for 4 lucid dreams this week. I tip my hat, CosmicIron, this is legit.
Also, I've noticed that people in this thread seem to have some weird ideas about the placebo effect. Let's get this clear, if this was a thread proposing a pharmaceutical induction of lucid dreams, then it would be appropriate to question whether the effects were due to placebo. Placebo refers to the degree to which results from a drug are due to psychological, and not physiological, effects. Placebos are fake pills used to test the validity of drugs to see whether patients get better from the pills only because they expect to, because doctors have to be sure what they're measuring, because people could die.
To describe something that is already a purely psychological process as placebo is literally retarded. And for the record, auto-suggestion and intention is to be found in every induction technique.
Yes, SSILD is placebo, insofar as every time you induce a lucid dream is a placebo.
EDIT: I may seem to be making a big deal (I am), but I don't have any vested interest in SSILD, this is a pet peeve and I'm pedantic. People whip out the word placebo for every new technique, and it's not worth even mentioning in intelligent discourse.