Sild *subliminal Technique*

[Sythix]

Hi all, I'm back with a new technique for inducing Lucid Dreams. This one is simple. I'll call it - SILD for Subliminally Induced Lucid Dreams You'll need the following: 1) Windows Media Player or Logarithmic Spirals which can be downloaded here: http://www.box.net/public/lp9p3a92l6 2) A Subliminal messaging program, there's a free one called BrainBullet which can be found here: http://www.box.net/public/xib6rd3ir5 Or you can choose Subliminal Blaster which can be found here: http://www.subliminalblaster.com/ 3) The following song: http://www.sonosync.com/mp3s/disc2track5.mp3 (right click and save-as) What To Do: 1) Download and install Brain Bullet. Run Brain Bullet and put a check next to - Control Your Dreams At Night. This program will flash subliminal mesages which will be picked up by your subconscious mind. This technique could probably work alone with just this step but the following will help you induce a trance state so you can be more susceptible to the messages. 2a) Play the song on Windows Media Player and set the player to display the ’chemicalnova’ visualisation. *Try to use headphones to listen to the music* 2b) Install Logarithmic Spirals and play around with the settings to achieve a trance state. Description of program: Logarithmic spirals are graphical representation of the basic growth law of nature, tuning their main parameters and animating, this program provides a unique interactive geometrical experience so close to nature that you can see and feel it. Image of Log Spirals: In my experiences it has gotten me into trance states by staring at the center, try and see if it works for you! 3) Position the Media Player window or Logarithmic Spirals program so that the subliminal messages will flash onto the middle of the visualisation. Set the player to play the song on continous repeat. (Repeat option can be found in the Play drop down menu) 4) Watch for about ten minutes a day, every day. Recommended Time: Just after waking up in the morning. (You can couple this technique with the WBTB method or any other which requires you to get up early and go back to bed for more effectiveness.) It is much more effective in the morning just after waking up to go into a trance and be more susceptible to the subliminals though take note this differs from person to person so if you're one to wake up woozy and such then try this - read the rest of the thread for more info; thanks to SKA for this tip. (After the third day, I start occasionally having vivid, lucid dreams which I had full control over. It may take less or more time for you, I don’t know.) Note: The song is played because it has a rate of 60 bpm, which is known to put you in a relaxed, almost trance-like state and more susceptible to the influence of the messages. The visualisation serves the same purpose. BrainBullet Settings: The default settings are good but I recommend setting the messages to display every 1 second and the display time to be 10 milliseconds. Contrast should be 80%. If you run at high resolutions such as 1600x1200 or 1280x1024 then I suggest you bring the font size higher to around 22, 24, or 26. Also, change the color of the font to something which doesn't blend into the background of other applications. I use red. Enjoy, I hope it works for all of you.

[Sean999]

What settings should we use for BrainBullet? I hope this works, thanks!

[SKA]

yeah this is what I've been looking for. Subliminal messaging to deliberately influence your subconcious mind. I posted a topic about this in the ''Dream Control'' board. I was wondering if I could use this Subliminal messaging technique to Incubate certain ''things'' into my dreams so that later I may recognise them as dreamsigns and gain lucidity. Interresting. Right now I'm going to a friend to smoke a joint but I will defenitely try this out. Sythix, perhaps we could develop this technique further. I play and record alot of music with guitar, synthesizer and vocals. I want to record some truely entrancing music and send it to someone who could add theta brainwaves and such to it. Perhaps if we have some musicians on the board: Be it percussion, sitar, Didgeridoo, piano or whatever. If there are then perhaps we could each seperately record something suitable for an entrancing ambient lucid dream aid MP3 we could use eachother's beats and melodies to create a good ambient entrancing song to become in deep state of relaxation and stay focus:To Generate a good mood for entering a dream lucidly with. I'm interrested in ambient music that really brings you in a certain mood. A focussed and clearminded mood to be precise. Some music just DOES that with you; It totally relaxes you and takes the 100.000 thoughts that usually fly through your head away so you can remain mentally undisturbed and focussed. Now this Focussed and undistracted mood would be a perfect mood for trying WILD. And even if you fail: if the music keeps playing on repeat you'll start hearing it in your dream when your in your last REMphase and you sleep lighter and are more sensible to external impulses ( The playing Lucid mantra music ) So I'm going to start a topic about this. I hope there are some musicians here on these boards.

[Sythix]

Hi Sean999, I updated my post with recommended BrainBullet settings. Hi SKA, I believe you can influence your subconscious mind subliminally to incubate dream signs into your dreams. You'll have to edit the programs lucid dreaming presets with the correct affirmations, or make a new preset all together. Say you want your dreamsigns to be birds, maybe something like "I will dream about birds" and then "I become lucid when I see birds" will do, play around with that and let us know! Also very interested in developing this technique further. I'm not a musician myself, so I can't help you there. It'll be nice if you can link to this post in your topic! Thanks

[Raylin]

Alright, I've been trying this for a couple of days. I haven't used your exact suggestions though; I've just had it running all the time I've been on the PC, but not spending time solely focusing on the messages. So far I'm not sure whether it's working for me or not. I seem to have slightly increased dream recall, and some interesting things have been hapenning in these dreams, but no lucids yet. I'll keep going though.

[FreshBrains]

Sounds like a great idea. I've done the technique you posted today, and I'm going to keep brainbullet running. I'll post any results.

[Sythix]

Hi Raylin, When you have it running on your PC in the background I'd advise you to have the 'Centered in active window' checked for message display, to make sure you're receiving the subliminal messages when you're in focus of a program on your screen. Also to make sure your subconscious doesn't get used to seeing subliminals flashing in the center and start ignoring them, after about a half hour switch to 'Randomly in active window'. Also keep a color font in which you can see on any type of windows so it wont blend into the background. It'll most likely take longer to achieve lucid dreams this way. GL

[MisterBubbles]

Am I supposed to be able to read the text? It blends in with the back ground.

[FreshBrains]

That's why I set the color to red. That was it looks URGENT! Plus, I don't think there are many programs that run in neon red. Otherwise they'd get sued for making people's eyes bleed.

[Marvo]

Yeah, I am also gonna try this technique. I'll post my results in a week

[Raylin]

I've set the text to red too. It shows up against more background, and doesn't blend in so easily.

[Sythix]

Red is perfect, that's what I use . And you are NOT suppose to read the text consciously. The messages are exclusively for your subconscious mind to pick up! It needs to be below the threshold of conscious perception for it to work; that is the definetion of 'subliminal'.

[FreshBrains]

So, if I'm aware that words are popping up, it won't work? Should I make then appear + disappear faster?

[Sythix]

Just try to ignore them, that's all. Keep it at the lowest display time which is 10 milliseconds. If you're aware of it, that's fine, but just don't try reading it.

[DreamGuy88]

My computer doesn't want to install the program after I download it. It doesn't know what to do with a .rar I have a great idea though. Use that with BWGEN on the Self Hypnosis preset and just let it got for a few minutes or while you're doing something else.

[Sythix]

Hi DreamGuy88, You'll need WinRAR to be able to extract .rar files, you can get it for free here: http://www.download.com/WinRAR/3000-...-10530598.html That's a great idea also! You can enable 'Flash Full Screen' in options on BWGEN and set BrainBullet settings to 'Centered in Active Window' and trance yourself out with that Self Hypnosis preset. For a more passive trance, like you said you can just run BWGEN in the background with headphones on and BrainBullet on.

[SKA]

I just downloaded and tested this programm to see if it is effective. Now I entered a list of Subliminal messages myself coming down to this: ''You will feel very heavy and relaxed'' ''Your eyelids become very heavy'' ''You feel at significantly at peace and euphoric'' and ''the first sigarette I smoke will taste noticably sweet'' (in the Sugar sense of the word) Now I have been into subliminal messaging for a longer time so I must admidt that I half expected it to indeed work. So the following effect may just have been placebo. But I really felt significantly different: Relaxed body, relaxed clear mind, a really overwhelming trance-feeling... Some people here think placebo effect is fake and therefor pathetic...but if it works it's real enough for me. In fact the most effective way of auto-suggestion is to fool yourself into believing that which credibility is rather debated and questionable. In this case subliminal messaging but it applies to alot of aspects in Lucid Dreaming...and many more outside Lucid Dreaming alone

[Wacom]

Hi there! This sounds like an interesting idea specially now that scientists say that subliminal messages actually may work after all. One thing I noticed though, Winrar is not freeware but a trail version. That means it stops working after 40 days. 7-zip is however a free tool (open source) that you can use to unrar .rar files. http://www.7-zip.org/ Anymore positive feedback from you who tried the Brainbullet program?

[DyerMaker]

I tried this technique last night and though I didn't LD(I haven't had one at all) it got me closer than I've ever been. I did it during WBTB, I woke up after 6 hrs stared at the visualizations on media player with the program running for about 10-15 with that track you recommended and then read through these forums with it popping up at random places on the screen. When I was going back to bed I attempted to WILD and I would occassionly see the words flash in my head but I actually fell asleep. During the dream though, I had moments of lucidity but I lacked any real dream control.

[Mr.caramel]

This sounds cool and it sounds like it helps but i think i know a thing or two about sublimenal messages. If its too complex the brain picks it up but its a to complex of a thing to do then it won't do ii. Plus Why does neon red make your eyes bleed? For some strange reason i cant download it.

[DreamGuy88]

I've had the BWGEN and the Brain Bullet thing going for about 10 minutes. Yesterday I had some good results after just using the BWGEN, so this could only make it better. My only question though, is how does your brain even know what the messages say if they're so fast that you don't even have time to read them?

[Marc]

Won't let me download EDIT: Works now

[ilovefrootloopz]

Dammit. Virtual PC is SOOOOO slow. When I try and run the song plus visualization, the messages screw up. The won't go for a few seconds, then about 5 will pile up on each other, then they will dissapear, and then there won't be any messages for a while. Thanks for nothing, microsoft.

[RooJ]

how does your brain even know what the messages say if they're so fast that you don't even have time to read them? [/b] You only conciously percieve a small amount of what your brain is processing at any time. Think of driving for example, you may be keeping an eye on your speed, watching for potential hazards at the side of the road, watching what other drivers are doing, listening to music, maybe having a conversation, changing gears and steering. You might find after driving 10 miles you cant remember the journey at all. The point is you dont need to be conciously aware of something for it to enter your head and affect you. A study on subliminal messages i heard about recently did the following experiment: Your memory works partly by associations, so If you were to hear a word such as 'seagul' it may trigger off activity in your brain that remind you of things such as beaches, the sea, waves etc. By using these words in a controlled enviroment researchers could map out activity in a subjects brain when a particular word was said. They then later flashed the word subliminally (so quick it was impossible for the subject to conciously process) and found the same areas lit up in the brain. Basically even though the participant had no idea that they had been flashed the word, the brain still processed it and made the necessary responses. Not sure how true it is but i heard a drinks company used the same principle in one of their advertising campains, flashed pictures of a desert up while showing their new softdrink dripping with ice. The desert subliminals would trigger its associations, Memory/thoughts of thirst, heat etc, which makes the drink look even more refreshing. Apparently it boosted sales.. and from what i remember the advert was banned. Hope this helps Roo

[Marvo]

Coca Cola did that, actually Okay, day 2, no big results. Had a great dream though