Thread: The Fairy and Gnome worlds

Originally Posted by keithclark

I am checking in to see if anyone else here has visited the fairy or gnome worlds? Or the barren hot desert where the darker green ET's lives? I'm just posting this post to see if anyone else has have similar experiences.

"The" darker green ET's? as different from the lighter green ET's?

Anyway, I have had desert dreams with aliens. Irdonian Zabraks, the race of Darth Maul.

I havn't, but I hope to travel in the astral and mental planes so I can do some exploring and learning. Where are these worlds?

They are just like Earth but they operate in their own universes separate from ours; they follow their own scientific rules and some of these worlds have more than one sun.

I've been there on DMT...

good thread.

Originally Posted by Spartiate

This whole forum is just an outcrop of the "Trip reports: Psychedelic experiences shared" thread.

No it is isn't I believe these things and I am not on drugs. Thanks alot no name

Originally Posted by keithclark

No it is isn't I believe these things and I am not on drugs. Thanks alot no name

np

There are plenty of people that believe in elves, fairies, gnomes, leprechauns, etc. ...to the point that such things are still being researched like Bigfoot or Nessy because people still claim many experiences and sightings. It's a cultural tradition in some areas.

Originally Posted by keithclark

No it is isn't I believe these things and I am not on drugs. Thanks alot no name

So what has caused you to believe in these things?

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

So what has caused you to believe in these things?

Sometimes it's just plain ole

I've ben there...

me too brah.

you're a fairy

Ok this is venturing into senseless banter territory. Someone add some substance to the thread...maybe the OP can elaborate on his own experiences or something...?

Originally Posted by keithclark

I've ben there...

When, exactly?

What's the connection between the fairy, the gnome, and the darker green ET?

Originally Posted by Spartiate

What's the connection between the fairy, the gnome, and the darker green ET?

Oh oh oh oh! I wanna answer this one!

Someone on this forum recommended me a book, it's crazy! Half asleep, now can't remember the title. But basically there is this researcher, and he's researching tribal cultures and their magical mushrooms and plants. To understand this culture he performs their rituals.

First, his mind is blown away by the consistency of the hallucination, when hallucinations aren't supposed to be consistent! The tribal people say the entheogen will make you see these sky-gods, with heart-shaped heads, who fly down, and I think the tribes people described it as a dish. Well he sure met these sky-gods in his hallucination, but he had a different name for them ....................Aliens.

There were some other strong themes in the vision known to the tribes people, such as a sacred tree and giving birth to an alien child, who is immediately taken away from the surrogate mother.

He starts to research alien experiences world wide, and to his surprise, other people who were NOT HIGH also had alien experiences with these themes - a tree or a tree like structure - and giving birth to an alien child.

He does more research and finds examples of similar abduction experiences in our history. Except back then, we didn't call them aliens. . . . We called them fairies.

Travel back in the time, and the magical prancing goody-to-shoo fairy has an entirely different image. Dark and frightening. There are fairy abductee stories, as there are alien abductee stories. The fairy usually appeared smaller than a human, though some were even taller, most had baby like features, such as large hypnotic eyes. The fairies abducted people, raped them. Women who claimed to be abducted by fairies also remember giving birth to a fairy-human child, who is then taken away from them. Other accounts also mention the tree, or the tree-like structure with its various limbs.

Suddenly fairies aren't so cute. If those were fairies.

The parallels he draws between the abductee stories of a more innocent time and today are frightening and too much to think about. A mere hallucination can't explain for the consistency across cultures and centuries.

However, the entheogenic plants also reveal that these abductions can't be happening in the physical plane. As in, no physical alien or fairy has abducted anyone. Who ever these beings are, they are in a different realm that we can some how mentally tap into. This idea of different realm not only coincides with the belief of astral aliens - but also the elemental realm, filled with beings like fairies.

Believers of fairies might argue that the adbuctee stories of the past were aliens, not fairies. And that fairies remain native spirits of the earth, while aliens - if they are aliens - are not.

Originally Posted by juroara

Oh oh oh oh! I wanna answer this one!

Someone on this forum recommended me a book, it's crazy! Half asleep, now can't remember the title. But basically there is this researcher, and he's researching tribal cultures and their magical mushrooms and plants. To understand this culture he performs their rituals.

First, his mind is blown away by the consistency of the hallucination, when hallucinations aren't supposed to be consistent! The tribal people say the entheogen will make you see these sky-gods, with heart-shaped heads, who fly down, and I think the tribes people described it as a dish. Well he sure met these sky-gods in his hallucination, but he had a different name for them ....................Aliens.

There were some other strong themes in the vision known to the tribes people, such as a sacred tree and giving birth to an alien child, who is immediately taken away from the surrogate mother.

He starts to research alien experiences world wide, and to his surprise, other people who were NOT HIGH also had alien experiences with these themes - a tree or a tree like structure - and giving birth to an alien child.

He does more research and finds examples of similar abduction experiences in our history. Except back then, we didn't call them aliens. . . . We called them fairies.

Travel back in the time, and the magical prancing goody-to-shoo fairy has an entirely different image. Dark and frightening. There are fairy abductee stories, as there are alien abductee stories. The fairy usually appeared smaller than a human, though some were even taller, most had baby like features, such as large hypnotic eyes. The fairies abducted people, raped them. Women who claimed to be abducted by fairies also remember giving birth to a fairy-human child, who is then taken away from them. Other accounts also mention the tree, or the tree-like structure with its various limbs.

Suddenly fairies aren't so cute. If those were fairies.

The parallels he draws between the abductee stories of a more innocent time and today are frightening and too much to think about. A mere hallucination can't explain for the consistency across cultures and centuries.

However, the entheogenic plants also reveal that these abductions can't be happening in the physical plane. As in, no physical alien or fairy has abducted anyone. Who ever these beings are, they are in a different realm that we can some how mentally tap into. This idea of different realm not only coincides with the belief of astral aliens - but also the elemental realm, filled with beings like fairies.

Believers of fairies might argue that the adbuctee stories of the past were aliens, not fairies. And that fairies remain native spirits of the earth, while aliens - if they are aliens - are not.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! I'm starting to believe that at some point in the past of the history of planet Earth humans were easily connected to these higher realms and Gods but something happened...maybe Pangea. Now most of us are stuck on this reality until our bodily deaths, but I believe that universes live around us DIRECTLY around us. I'm starting not to believe in phrases like "lightyears" or "speed of light" I'm starting to see that time and parallel universes exist neither near nor far away but somewhere inbetween. That "inbetween" is the place human beings need to get to or get back to! I'd like to hear more thoughts from others.

Damn that Pangea...

Originally Posted by juroara

However, the entheogenic plants also reveal that these abductions can't be happening in the physical plane. As in, no physical alien or fairy has abducted anyone. Who ever these beings are, they are in a different realm that we can some how mentally tap into. This idea of different realm not only coincides with the belief of astral aliens - but also the elemental realm, filled with beings like fairies.

Believers of fairies might argue that the adbuctee stories of the past were aliens, not fairies. And that fairies remain native spirits of the earth, while aliens - if they are aliens - are not.

The book I'm reading on AP mentions fairies and gnomes within the OBE realm, being native to the Earth.

I just talked to the fairy expert on Earth (CASSANDRA EASON) and this is what she said:

Dear Keith
Sorry for the delay in reply, I am travelling in Australia at the moment, and getting connected is difficult!

No the fairy blessed you by giving you strength and purpose and focus and fairies can be fierce old creatures but you were definitely blessed. Offer a small red crystal in the earth anywhere as thanks and grow a red flowering plant and if you hold your hands over it that will give you the fey strength whenever you need it.

What is that letter even in reference to? You've given us nothing to go on here. Why make a thread about something if you aren't going to at least post some real content or share your experience?

One of my goal when lucid some next time is to travel to the elemental realms.

I've read some pretty interesting account about those spirits. Franz Bardon talks about them, as William Mistele.

I don't know about physically real but - when I was a kid. I never saw actual real fairies then. But being around new agers, I let my self entertain the idea and was open minded and imaginative enough to have those sort of magical experiences. I suppose since then this year I've 'seen' three. In the summer I woke up after my birthday and in the corner of my eye saw two fire fairies and a third. I figured they were birds but I was also really amazed since they looked weird. If I think about it logically they were really fast red-orange-yellow birds and they just happened to look a little leafy. But I'm gonna say they were fire fairies. In the fall I saw air fairies. They were really fast birds too (HAHAHA) but that doesn't matter. Grey-black-blue. In the winter they were rain. I was crying at the time. It was in moments that coincided with certain feelings and hurdles I'd overcome and showed challeneges that would come up. The fire period was short, the air one was too long, the water one is still happening. I've been excited about what the earth ones will look like. That's the only one left after all.

But this is more of a bridging emotion, imagination, personal experience, and still keeping a foot on the ground. At least, for me, that's a way to stay grounded and happy. I need imagination but if I can ground it, I won't be imbalanced. If I ignore my imagination and dreams and fae-ness, I'll be stuck, stressed, and depressed. I can keep my skepticism. Like in a lucid dream.

But anyway, I'd actually kinda forgotten about fairies until two years ago. When I was a kid I made this thing up called fairyland and my cousin, sister, and I would basically hop into different worlds and immerse ourselves in them. (Makes sense that dream-hopping is the first skill I used in my lucid dream). Superhero land, bone land, name land, nothing land, tree land, dream land, etc. Anything could be it's own place. We first entered fairyland, and it was preferred to use a door, but if we at least went to fairyland first then it was okay. Then you could teleport. When you came back home, you had to go to fairyland first too.

I created the structure for the world and the rules, as I went, and spontaneously. What surprises me though is that when I looked up the fae two years ago, the descriptions of it were really similar/the same. My friend asked me where it was relative to earth and such and I said "....sideways." And like "It's here, it's the same place but different, it's in between, like parallel kind" I said you could kinda reach into it by separating the particles but not really maybe, but it's that close.

I think some things are just kinda universal ideas and feelings. I've seen aliens while high and then while tripping but they ended up being nice. They gave me unconditional love and I cried like a baby. I mean I was scared at first, but I talked about it with folk and resolved to have a conversation, and it was a really good experience. I didn't understand unconditional love before. It would make sense for it to come in a form of an alien.

Spoiler for post got way too long:

It ties in to dreams too. I've had enough spontaneous and more shallow experiences without foreknowledge in enough 'metaphysical' things like fairies (as a kid), OBEs (once as a teenager - I freaked out and stayed put and tried to put my hand 'back'), and aliens (everyone knows what aliens are, but I didn't know about the associations to new age/metaphysics) to have a personal understanding and familiarity when I read up on the topics. But since I'm lucky to have had an intellectual ignorance to them beforehand, I see how they're honestly kinda archetypal and natural to humans as concepts. Not like everyone has these ideas or experiences, but if they pop up randomly and everywhere then they aren't exactly foreign. So what do they mean?

So....idk, you can interpret it in any way. I feel like they're basic ideas, and the feelings they bring up in the person are what matters, as well as the culture they're in. I like seeing fairies and aliens etc as symbols or manifestations of a feeling or a way of exploring that or bringing the dream world into reality. Working with the unconscious in the physical world. It's at the very least fun, but can definitely provide opportunities for healing too.

At the same time, I know it's wise to keep my skepticism and maintain a grip on physical laws. That might be why I unwittingly made using the doors (or gate) a rule at 9 years old. It might be safer to do it in a ritual setting or having a designated time. And just because you don't know how it works or what you're doing, doesn't mean you're not tapping into something real in you. It's weird to bring dream logic into real life, but dreams hold feelings and a different kind of understanding. My allowing myself to believe what I saw are fairies is creating a story and sorta structure for my healing that I can emotionally relate to.

But then that's taking it out of a ritual setting. I'm more entertaining a belief and seeing how that does for me. I think I like it. It's personal. I've been trying to find the line where magic, dream, earth, skepticism and logic meet as a perspective and attitude in a healthy and balanced and stable or at least positive way. Still trying to find it. It's led me here.