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I feel like maybe trying to learn this. What i wanna know is is there any evidence telling you if meditation is real or you just fall asleep due to your eyes being shut and shutting everything off (like falling asleep), and expierience this via the dream world. |
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in meditation i get enclosed into my head , its an explanation a bit empty but you have to experience it for yourself sit on your buttom breath in and out count the breaths breathe with your stomache loose count of your breaths and just observe them happen and in five to ten/20 minutes you will be enclosed in your own head |
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believe on the lord jesus christ and thou shalt be saved
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i have acheived higher insight and creativity through day awareness i can now see things for what they are
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There's research done on people in a state of mindfulness while hooked up to EEGs. They found not only that there's a dramatic change in brain function but that people who practice mindfulness enough actually keep this as their permanent wakeful state. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Well you do fall asleep, in a way. Whats happening is that you are remaining conscious while the mind goes into states which normally only occur when you lose consciousness - sleeping. The reason this is interesting or worth pursing is that you find these states contain a vast reservoir of awareness, of which your conscious mind was merely the tip of an iceberg. Sleeping states only seem the way they do now because you have blacked out. There is actually more consciousness in levels beyond your waking mind, its just that you blank out and don't experience them currently. |
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Dunno how technical you want it. but. |
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Last edited by Vesterguard; 09-28-2011 at 11:50 PM.
So fly with me, Theres a whole sky to see, I am taking your mind with me, into Lucidity, flying in unity could be normality, what you perceive to be is your reality – Dub FX
It depends on what you mean when you ask "is it real?" Is what real? Meditation means so many different things to different people. |
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No. This is a trance. Meditation can only enhance your focus and ability to relax so you can put yourself into a trance at greater ease. But the two are not the same. (Not mutually exclusive either, but it's important to clear misconceptions. The Dalai Lama meditates, he does not go into a trance.) |
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Last edited by Omnis Dei; 09-29-2011 at 06:24 AM.
Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Last edited by LucidFlanders; 09-30-2011 at 03:06 AM.
If you read the above posts, you'll find the answer to your question (the difference is very clear) |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Ah I see. You're definitely not supposed to just nod off and sleep. That's not meditation. That's sleeping. You can accomplish that with a simple trip to my old communication systems class where I nicknamed the lecturer Prince Valium (in honour of Spaceballs). |
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Maybe dealing with semantics here. I consider the loftier goals of mediation as bringing awareness to hidden mental process, and beyond that formless empty consciousness. These states are usually recorded as theta and delta brain waves, the former being subconscious information and the latter formless consciousness - both also occurring while dreaming (theta) and deep sleep (delta). So maybe your labeling that as a trance, and thinking of meditation as just focused awareness, which to me seems simply groundwork for deeper levels. |
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I'm mostly interested in setting people off in the right direction and this means not assuming meditation is similar to going to sleep. The alertness is key. If you go into a trance but reclaim your alertness to the present moment and your alertness of your being, then you are in a meditative trance. I would not call what Edgar Cayce did meditation, though. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Can someone tell me why i can't seem to get passed my neck when feeling my inner body? I got some kind of block there. I've been meditating for 3 days using this video. |
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Try relaxing more. Breathing deep and slow may help. Just let go |
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“The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.” - Albert Einstein
Thanks, will try it. My goal is to find peace, but i also wanna try an OBE just to see what it's like but it's much too early for me to think about that. When i'm meditating i mostly just try and focus on my breath, and to feel my inner self. Basically just have my whole body full of warmth from head to toe because it feels comfortable. I also wanna have a profound expierience like finally realizing it, and knowing i'm 1 with the universe. I don't plan to build my life around this, but it would be nice to get into say shelters helping people in need or something. I realized without knowing it that my whole life i have been helping people, which has lead me to getting used many times, but i like doing it, even if it's simple things like helping someone lift something heavy. I guess realizing that made me wanna do this, although my dog dieing (first pet that died in my life), i've had this thing in me wanting to learn the spiritual side of life. It's come off and on, but it's always coming back so why not try this stuff out. |
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