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      Thumbs up School Of The Occult

      Who here would be interested in a "School of the Occult"? Complete with tests, Certificates of Completion, full courses, etc.?
      It will cover:
      -Astral Planes
      -Sigils
      -Runes
      -Meditation
      -Chakras
      -Chi, Ki, Qui
      and some other things. Anyone interested?
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      I think that'd be interesting
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      This thread should probably go to Inner Sanctum, even if you did mention Astral Traveling.

      The course itself sounds cool, though I'm not sure what kind of certificate you could get. Certified Dream Walker. Certified Magician... yeah

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      Spoiler for Occult Academy:


      You can find anything on the internet
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      Anybody interested in teaching ?

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      Lucid dreaming is a very simple subject compared to the occult and look at the size of this website. I think it would be too impractical.

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      Quote Originally Posted by melanieb View Post
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      this is exactly what i was thinking about lol

      yes I'm interested in learning, unfortunately I can't teach any of it haha

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      So whats the point? Are you starting a school ? There will sure be lots of people interested in this kind of knowlede.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      This thread should probably go to Inner Sanctum, even if you did mention Astral Traveling.
      yes

      I will leave a permanent redirect here though, more people can see it.
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      Why does everyone want to found a university on this website god dammit. You can't write up tests and teach people about something you're not an expert at, for fuck's sake. And if you are an expert- hey, that's just great. Start some threads on the subject or some tutorials or whatever. Why do you need to have some kind of bullshit organization based here to get that information out to interested parties? This is a free to use forum, just post what you have to say.
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      An academy would enable more proactive learning. Rather than hunting through tutorials, they could be guided to the tutorials that suit them best and have someone to answer specific questions related to those tutorials. I don't see it as any different from DV academy except you'd be getting help from someone who can AP or do sigils rather than specifically someone who can help you lucid dream.

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      The DV Academy suffers from the same problems.

      If someone has a question why can they not post in appropriate threads? Why do you need certificates and instructors? If someone has a tutorial for whatever, they can post a thread and it will live or die based on its quality. Stickying good tutorials guarantees no one will have to hunt for them, plus they can be maintained and changed as people with varying knowledge bases collaborate in the thread. The only thing I see happening with any of these 'Academy' ideas is a bunch of amateurs pretending to be experts to make themselves feel good, nothing to do with teaching anyone anything. If someone isn't sure about a tutorial or has a question it's going to take the same amount of time for their question to be answered, regardless of the existence of this imaginary university.

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      Some people have the specific experience necessary to answer specific questions or direct people to the answer so people interested in learning such things don't have to go hunting. And your idea of live or die based on the merit of the question is false. Threads die because the question is answered and requires no more further input. Questions also die because no one around at the time can answer them and they get buried.

      I don't agree with certificates either, as I already explained, but just because I don't see the point in a certificate doesn't mean I don't see the point in a more personalized method of instruction than "the infos out there go find it"
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      Well, if you wish, I have a bit of occult knowledge I can add. But yes, tests, and certs. are not a good idea, one the certs. would be based on nothing as we have no institute or federal program to back up our word. And, honestly, besides quizzing, they would either know and understand or they wouldn't. As so far as the side-tracked discussion above, Omnis has a good point as threads die out while this may create something more lasting, assuming enough people are even interested.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      Some people have the specific experience necessary to answer specific questions or direct people to the answer so people interested in learning such things don't have to go hunting. And your idea of live or die based on the merit of the question is false. Threads die because the question is answered and requires no more further input. Questions also die because no one around at the time can answer them and they get buried.

      I don't agree with certificates either, as I already explained, but just because I don't see the point in a certificate doesn't mean I don't see the point in a more personalized method of instruction than "the infos out there go find it"
      Make tutorials
      Sticky them

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      Even if I could sticky them, what am I supposed to do? Sticky 200 tutorials and whenever someone has a specific question related to their own obstacles when it comes to practicing one of the studies laid out in the thread, they're just supposed to browse through every tutorial until they find their answer?

      Come on, dude. I see you ask Shockwave for help all the time, why can't others have the same opportunity?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      Even if I could sticky them, what am I supposed to do? Sticky 200 tutorials and whenever someone has a specific question related to their own obstacles when it comes to practicing one of the studies laid out in the thread, they're just supposed to browse through every tutorial until they find their answer?
      I don't think if every single person who frequented this forum collaborated could you come up with two hundred tutorials about anything without becoming redundant. Either way, how do you think some academy system will work, then? All you need is a standard way of accepting tutorials to sticky and leave OPEN... How would this not suffice.

      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      Come on, dude. I see you ask Shockwave for help all the time, why can't others have the same opportunity?
      ??? Wat

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      Every time you run into a problem coding, you whine on IRC about it. I don't know precisely how an Occult Academy would work, that's what this thread is for. I was simply addressing your hypocrisy.

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      I think this would be a great opportunity for its own web site...with perhaps a few cross references between sites to specifically point people in the right direction for the help they need.

      People focused on dreams and related material can be on one site, the other focuses on the occult, with perhaps a Q/A forum that points to the relevant person, thread, or area of the other web site.

      Both ideas are big enough for their own home.

      But, like, that's just my opinion, man.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      Every time you run into a problem coding, you whine on IRC about it. I don't know precisely how an Occult Academy would work, that's what this thread is for. I was simply addressing your hypocrisy.
      Um?

      Yes, I talk when I am in IRC about stuff I'm doing. What does that have to do with anything?

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      Why can't people discuss what they're doing in occult studies, as well?

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      1. ShockWave and I et c. are not in a study, we just all happen to be programmers who are in IRC a lot
      2. Never said they couldn't. I asked why do they need to call it an academy or whatever and issue titles and courses?
      3. The forum itself serves this purpose already.

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      The biggest problem I see here, is that EGO is the first and largest stumbling block in most occult paths. Some of you may noticed that a power you have had good luck with, like wind control, may fail you when you try to show it off. The problem being, that you are trying to show off. If someone has a school of the occult, perhaps it will be of use to people looking for some quick info, or pointers. That is good; helping others is noble. However two problems arise. The teacher gets prideful and takes pleasure in people thinking they are special. The student thrives on getting an outward symbol that proves to others that they have learned something.
      In ReiKi you can get certified if you pay the money and sit through a class. If you can afford it a week end retreat and money can get you certified as a "ReiKI Master." I may be embarresed to hang a "ReiKi Master" certificate in my home. I am far less likely to believe someone has mastered a subtle skill if they, for instane, wear a tee-shirt saying "I am a such-and-such master."
      However, all in fun and games and the interest of sharing basic info, it could be a good thing for some people. However, in my experience, occult skills come only after the person has made internal discoveries that can not be handed to them.
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      Quote Originally Posted by sivason View Post
      However, all in fun and games and the interest of sharing basic info, it could be a good thing for some people. However, in my experience, occult skills come only after the person has made internal discoveries that can not be handed to them.
      While we are all capable of walking the path, many need to be lead to the door.
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