I pretend I am dumber than I am as well because I would be a rather serious and boring person if I was always acting smart. Everybody likes to get goofy and maybe watch a stupid comedy movie or laugh at a dumb joke. |
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Alright, maybe the word dumb is offensive. Again, I often over-simplify. I guess it's more like I pretend to be concerned with things I'm not really concerned with. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
I pretend I am dumber than I am as well because I would be a rather serious and boring person if I was always acting smart. Everybody likes to get goofy and maybe watch a stupid comedy movie or laugh at a dumb joke. |
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Yeah but I don't want it to seem like I speak down to people. That's not what I do. I don't think, "I can't have a serious conversation with you because you're not smart enough." I think, "Let me pretend this is a serious issue to me." Which is sort of the opposite of what you said, I don't really play dumb. I am dumb. I don't know anything. And I'm not overly concerned with big social issues and philosophical debates. Part of me is but I see through that part of me. But just because you realize you're in a play doesn't mean you shouldn't fill whatever role you're wearing without all the enthusiasm you can muster. Fuck, it's more fun that way. There's a guy laughing his ass off behind the character though. Sort of like those shitty actors like Nicholas Cage who can't become their roles completely, there's always a hint of a grin in anything I say. If a friend needs me to sincere to them, then I'll try to drop that layer. But few people are close enough to me to see me drop it. Behind it is just simple love, anyways. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
And in this thread I was more reacting to the topic of the thread than to you personally |
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Yeah in reality I do understand we all have the potential to become aware of our subtle senses, and in fact the way the subtle senses work it often feels like I'm making stuff up that I'm actually channeling. But sometimes I'm also just making stuff up. And sometimes 90% of what I say is based on my ability to read their actions. But a lot of my ability to read their actions comes from subtle senses. I'm sure you know, there's no line separating it, but there is a grade and some of my psychic friends are on a more intuitive side of the spectrum while I'm still closer to the cognitive/observational side. But my friends are often fucking wrong, too. Even some that I think are profoundly good are often wrong. And sometimes they won't even admit they're wrong. If the cards/numbers say it, they're certain it's true. And that's something I don't want to turn into, so I'd prefer not to buy into my own talents to that level. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
This isn't speaking down to people so much as thinking down to them. You're sort of stepping back from the situation and thinking "what can I say here that will have the desired effect", rather than directly articulating what your thought is. Its a lot like the approach of a pickup artist (xkcd: Pickup Artist), in that it treats other people like objects to be manipulated. Even if the motive is for people to learn, you're still putting yourself in the position of deciding how they should learn and tricking them into it, which is an arrogant way to treat other people's intelligence and free will. |
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Last edited by shadowofwind; 03-08-2013 at 08:03 AM.
I'm also a student in this thread. Socrates would agree with you, that people should speak honestly, but he would then challenge them with questions. I don't really have honest opinions though, except that I don't know. So I more or less experiment with possibilities. If something is possible, that's about as close as I can get to it being true. Granted I have a lot of information, and I can relay the information. That's essentially what I did in this thread, anyways. I just relayed information. And it's not so much that I tried to fool people that I wanted to hear their opinion on what defines a psychic and if there's any such thing as one. I figured they could teach me something. They would not really be wrong to approach the topic seriously and teach me what defines a psychic, I simply worded the thread in a way which would draw more attention as opposed to "what's your opinion on psychics?" It's the same thing as telling a story about yourself that's not really about you. I suppose you could call it gimmicky writing but if the gimmicks work and the core remains truthful I'd prefer to write something that will grab people's attention and sell rather than state facts plainly. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
I'll take a bullshitter over a sociopath. |
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You would? |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
I believe that many psychics, believe they are psychics. Many are out there who are scammers, cold readers and the like. but many do seem to posses psychic abilities. Most of these psychics rely on their "Guides". spiritual entities which give them visions or speak in their ear. I believe that the psychics that rely on these spiritual beings are actually listening to demonic spirits. Demonic spirits, are known to mix truth with lies. They can also see roughly 15 years into the future. so basically if you are talking to a psychic that relies on Demonic spirits to speak through them, you will actually quite often have a prediction or two come to pass. I've had readings where I was given a description of a person months before i ever met them. |
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MoSh: How about you stop trying to define everything, and just accept what you experience, and explore it.
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I don't think they're all demonic, in fact demonic is a word I have trouble with because it creates polarity which is something we're currently evolving beyond. I don't consider them malevolently, though I would consider them to possess very different qualities than angelic guides. |
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Last edited by Original Poster; 03-25-2013 at 12:45 AM.
Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
I've just fallen into this thread by accident and haven't read things through completely, so if this has been answered before, feel free to ignore this post. |
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Last edited by TimB; 03-26-2013 at 10:14 PM.
My opinion is that everyone has the potential to be psychic, and in fact no matter how authentic they could appear to be there's always a level of doubt and suspicion required when talking to a psychic. One has to remember that they're giving an interpretation. Even if someone were simply reading my body language, they may be able to deliver a reading just as good as someone in contact with angelic entities simply based upon their skill and people reading. It comes down to what you choose to take from it, I guess, and for that reason I'd rather deal with a psychic who's a good listener and able to provide profound advice on how to move forward as opposed to someone with voices in their head who can predict the future. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
And how exactly did that answer my questions? |
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You're a bullshitter. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
So anyone that is able to supply any kind of meaningful discourse towards someone else can label themselves as a psychic AND be considered to be the real-deal by you? |
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Last edited by TimB; 03-31-2013 at 08:48 PM.
I don't feel like reading all that. I neither believe nor disbelieve a real psychic could be authentic. I'm weird though, I could shake hands with an alien and still neither believe nor disbelieve they exist. I do not believe if I walk off a cliff I will plummet to the ground. I place a bet that I'll plummet to the ground. I base my decisions on information but this information is not neither true nor false. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Well... My age-old nemesis... 'I'm not listening, lalala'. We meet again... |
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Last edited by TimB; 04-01-2013 at 12:02 PM.
The mechanism functions the same way whether or not it's because of "supernatural" forces or because of simple mental projection on the tarot cards. I'm not ruling out the possibility that tarot is a psychological phenomenon wherein one can gain insight on themselves and their lives using the cards as a vehicle. This vehicle can continue to theoretically operate with or without the subtle body and other fortean concepts. |
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Last edited by Original Poster; 04-02-2013 at 04:21 AM.
Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Does it, now? Explain... I'm pretty sure there are a bunch of believers who will be ready to deny that this is the case. So explain and motivate, please. And a show of evidence is still appreciated... |
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Last edited by TimB; 04-02-2013 at 05:34 AM.
You could try looking up studies on the Extended Mind if you want research that opens up some interesting possibilities. As it stands, I still don't see the practical differences regarding how the mechanism of tarot operates. As I have dulled myself explaining to you, the mechanism works, why it works is secondary. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
I wasn't being addressed here, but for whatever it may be worth.... |
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