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      I saw the second two thirds of the children's movie 'Frozen' last night. This movie features the same curse-of-paralysis-to-be-undone-by-true-love idea that Disney used in Snow White and Sleeping Beauty. But this time it was the selfless love of the cursed person for her sister that broke the spell, not a kiss bestowed by her prince charming. Also, the curse itself was rooted in fear, the consequence of a natural born witch trying to suppress her own dangerous magic by suppressing her capacity to feel. And also notable to me was the way the witch's struggles had bad effects on everyone else from a distance, even though she thought of what she was doing as being her own problem. That seems to me to be right.

      I thought the story resolution was overly glib - difficulties don't suddenly vanish and power doesn't instantly stop corrupting when you start trying to love. But that could be a sequel, and after all it was a children's movie. The two core messages were: embrace your psychic power rather than being afraid of it, and love is more about moral courage and caring about people more than about romance. This seems to me to be a positive way of looking at things.

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      The snow monsters she made were like tulpas.

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      It is amazing how much programming power that disney has over the collective culture. From what I heared Frozen is a good movie. But i don't intend to watch it anytime soon. So I'm glad you posted a quick summary. I used to love the Lion King when I was little. And still do. I think the story is also very positive. And Pocahontas. But it may be my bias for loving the fact that they include Indians and Shamans. And put them on a pedestal. (where I think they belong). Less so in the Lion King but that scene where he saw his dead father is just chilling to me and I love watching it.

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      When we attempted a shared dream a few months ago, the main part of my dream involved an icy pillar that reached up into space, and which in an instant 'burned' from the top, falling in a fountain.

      The witch in the movie does a trick like that a few minutes into the story, and again at the end. Here it is the first time, watch from 0:53 to 1:23:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K94tPyBDNO8

      It looks like she's just throwing up a firework, but the dream feels to me like an interpretation of the same image. Here she does it again at the end of the movie, at 0:34:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN_BQREq_Vk
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      Many many interpretations for this. But I think the movie is very cute. I have a friend that loves it, I don't know how many times she has seen it , we may just watch it together someday.

      As far as I remember I did not get much dreams at the time. My thoughts as to interpretation are mostly prophetic and maybe slightly ego-centric that's why I prefer to keep those to myself.

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      Metallica has a song with that title. It's really good.
      How do you know you are not dreaming right now?

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      Yes I used the song title intentionally, for juvenile ironic juxtaposition with the Disney musical.

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