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      Tell me about life before ?

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      my mum was telling me about when I went to the air port for the first time. I was about 4 I think she said and I was running around yelling saying I knew where I was going and that I've been here before. Mum kept saying no analise this is ur first time but I kept yelling saying I had been here before. Mum gave up and asked who I was with and I said that the planes were different to what they are now and that I was with my mum joanne ( that's not my mums name)and then I realised what I said and I became confused and started to cry. Do you believe that you lived as someone else before you but our memory of it had dissapeared ? Tell me your thoughts on it please
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      im bored with my reality

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      But, where did you come from in the first place?

      In my past life, I was a stem-cell research scientist named Emily. I sliced open the embryo of Emily's previous life.
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      I murdered someone, there was bloody everywhere. On the walls, on my hands. The air smelled metallic, like iron. My mouth... tasted metallic, like iron. The floor was metallic, probably iron

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      Quote Originally Posted by Abra View Post
      But, where did you come from in the first place?

      In my past life, I was a stem-cell research scientist named Emily. I sliced open the embryo of Emily's previous life.
      I come from Australia nsw if that's what u mean
      im bored with my reality

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      Quote Originally Posted by epicdreamer371 View Post
      I come from Australia nsw if that's what u mean
      Um.

      Actually, I meant where did your soul come from in the first place. If you had a past life.
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      I murdered someone, there was bloody everywhere. On the walls, on my hands. The air smelled metallic, like iron. My mouth... tasted metallic, like iron. The floor was metallic, probably iron

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      Ohhh haHa sorry. I don't know where I was born in my past life where and how do I found out
      im bored with my reality

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      Quote Originally Posted by epicdreamer371 View Post
      Ohhh haHa sorry. I don't know where I was born in my past life where and how do I found out
      You could try meditating to attempt to find some answers?

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      hmm maybe il try that when i get the chance,
      thanks
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      Quote Originally Posted by epicdreamer371 View Post
      Hello
      my mum was telling me about when I went to the air port for the first time. I was about 4 I think she said and I was running around yelling saying I knew where I was going and that I've been here before. Mum kept saying no analise this is ur first time but I kept yelling saying I had been here before. Mum gave up and asked who I was with and I said that the planes were different to what they are now and that I was with my mum joanne ( that's not my mums name)and then I realised what I said and I became confused and started to cry. Do you believe that you lived as someone else before you but our memory of it had dissapeared ? Tell me your thoughts on it please
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      When we are born and until we are around seven years old we kind of live in two worlds, the physical and the non-physical. Mostly due to cultural beliefs the connection is quickly detached when the young ones are repeatedly told it's fantasies and dreams. The significance goes unseen in our way of upbringing. Some people still remember their prior life or the time before entry into the physical when they are very young, it is quickly forgotten though, as in your example.

      That you remember air planes suggest that were different suggest that you transitioned less than hundred years ago, which is very likely anyway. ~ 50-60 years sounds reasonably.

      We don't remember earlier experience packets as it would be counter-productive, we come in with a blank slate, and that is much more productive.

      The memory is still in your consciousness as whole, but the information is not stored in the brain per automatic. See it as you, as you are now only have access to a single folder in your hard disk, the information is still there but you as the being experiencing this virtual reality does not.

      When your awareness is in the non-physical you can use your intent to gather information, if one wanted you could see your past experience packets, or one can wait until the current life is over.

      As Aquanina said, you can try with meditation if you are curious.

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      In my past life, I was a stem-cell research scientist named Emily. I sliced open the embryo of Emily's previous life.
      Anything to do with this? http://bama.ua.edu/~joshua/archive/a...mily%20Ray.pdf
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      Quote Originally Posted by Specialis Sapientia View Post
      That you remember air planes suggest that were different suggest that you transitioned less than hundred years ago, which is very likely anyway. ~ 50-60 years sounds reasonably.
      Can a person not have a past life from the future? If so, why not?



      I made that up on the spot, actually. :V

      My stance on the matter, is that past lives are acquired when kids watch television (or, hear a story, or see a photograph or painting), and incorporate what's happening in the show into real episodic memory. When you're 3~4, your mind is just starting to adapt to constructing lasting memories of your life (and this can and will lead to some odd memories, as your mind makes mistakes and learns from them). Past lives, reports of being a downed WWII pilot, knowing specific details and remembering specific names, are perhaps merely a product of the brain sorting the memories of a History Channel special as your own life.

      This explanation probably isn't applicable to all cases. *shrug*
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      Quote Originally Posted by OldSparta
      I murdered someone, there was bloody everywhere. On the walls, on my hands. The air smelled metallic, like iron. My mouth... tasted metallic, like iron. The floor was metallic, probably iron

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      Quote Originally Posted by Abra View Post
      My stance on the matter, is that past lives are acquired when kids watch television (or, hear a story, or see a photograph or painting), and incorporate what's happening in the show into real episodic memory. When you're 3~4, your mind is just starting to adapt to constructing lasting memories of your life (and this can and will lead to some odd memories, as your mind makes mistakes and learns from them). Past lives, reports of being a downed WWII pilot, knowing specific details and remembering specific names, are perhaps merely a product of the brain sorting the memories of a History Channel special as your own life.
      While that is certainly a reasonable and easy answer to the phenomenon of children "remembering" past lives, it becomes tricky when examining case studies of children who were able to recall extremely specific details of a former life with a high degree of accuracy.

      There is a book produced by some sociologist in the mid-20th century whose life work was to soberly investigate and document such claims. I can't think of the guy's name off the top of my head but I will look around and when I find it I'll post it back here.

      The only copy of the book I could find on Amazon was selling for more than $100, as I recall. And I'm not paying that much for it, but I'd like to read it.

      I think what characterized his work was that he was neither trying to prove or disprove the phenomenon, exactly, just collecting and presenting the data as impartially as possible.

      Having not had a chance to read it yet, however, I can't vouch for that claim.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Abra View Post
      Can a person not have a past life from the future? If so, why not?
      We must differentiate between the two.

      The past is done, free-will choices were made that actualized a number of probabilities that existed.

      The future exist as probabilities, as unactualized events that can become actualized by free-will choices. The unactualized probabilities will go into an unactualized historical database when the choice is made that goes along the path of only one of many that were available that that time.

      In short, there are three general databases.

      The future probable database, the actualized historical database (everything that happened) and the unactualized historical database (everything that didn't happen, but could happen).

      One could actually misinterpret having a past life in the future, if one access the future probably database and interpret it as something real and actualized. Though that is very unlikely as such experience is generally not as optimal for growth as this experience (current life) is.

      Precognitive dreams are also logically explained; getting a data stream from the future probable database. What about those that "doesn't happen"? Let me remind you that it's a future probable database, for the first, one could get the data stream for a very unlikely future event, but still probable, or free-will choices leading up to the future event changed the probability of that happening. And thus it goes into the unactualized historical database.

      Not all dreams of future events are precognitive, they can be purely made up.

      My stance on the matter, is that past lives are acquired when kids watch television (or, hear a story, or see a photograph or painting), and incorporate what's happening in the show into real episodic memory. When you're 3~4, your mind is just starting to adapt to constructing lasting memories of your life (and this can and will lead to some odd memories, as your mind makes mistakes and learns from them). Past lives, reports of being a downed WWII pilot, knowing specific details and remembering specific names, are perhaps merely a product of the brain sorting the memories of a History Channel special as your own life.

      This explanation probably isn't applicable to all cases. *shrug*
      Yes, that is a reasonable possibility, though not always, as you say in the last sentence.

      There are evidence in some cases where the conclusion is quite clear. As Captain Sleepalot mentions there have been done some excellent studies done, also in book-format.

      Even though this evidence have some good weight, one should still use personal experience to confirm the big picture thinking.
      The wise ones fashioned speech with their thought, sifting it as grain is sifted through a sieve. ~ Buddha

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      I've seen many stories similar. It is very interesting indeed.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Abra View Post
      Can a person not have a past life from the future? If so, why not?



      I made that up on the spot, actually. :V

      My stance on the matter, is that past lives are acquired when kids watch television (or, hear a story, or see a photograph or painting), and incorporate what's happening in the show into real episodic memory. When you're 3~4, your mind is just starting to adapt to constructing lasting memories of your life (and this can and will lead to some odd memories, as your mind makes mistakes and learns from them). Past lives, reports of being a downed WWII pilot, knowing specific details and remembering specific names, are perhaps merely a product of the brain sorting the memories of a History Channel special as your own life.

      This explanation probably isn't applicable to all cases. *shrug*
      I actually am sided to agree with you. I feel kids have an imaginative mind and remember things that never really happened. Is this always the case, no. But in most cases its just a child remembering things they watched on TV or saw in pictures.

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      Before you are about three, you don't understand the concept of I. The world is you, and you are the world. The filters have not come in yet because you don't understand what to filter.

      This is why most people of a certain age cannot remember before they were three. It simply makes no sense in their personal narrative anymore; the sensations were completely different to those after the I was established, and eventually just get filtered out.

      This promotes both of the possibilities in different ways:

      • The filters and inhibitions have not been developed yet so your mind is closer to other realities that would not make sense otherwise in the workday world. If you find an utterly alien idea just now you probably won't understand it, and disregard - it is after all alien.


      or:

      • When a child of this age sees something like it on television, they can't tell it apart from themselves because their identity is not properly formed yet. There is the counterpoint that they probably wouldn't understand what's happening on the television, but that is of little consequence; they only have to remember it was part of their sensations for later.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Abra View Post
      Can a person not have a past life from the future? If so, why not?



      I made that up on the spot, actually. :V

      My stance on the matter, is that past lives are acquired when kids watch television (or, hear a story, or see a photograph or painting), and incorporate what's happening in the show into real episodic memory. When you're 3~4, your mind is just starting to adapt to constructing lasting memories of your life (and this can and will lead to some odd memories, as your mind makes mistakes and learns from them). Past lives, reports of being a downed WWII pilot, knowing specific details and remembering specific names, are perhaps merely a product of the brain sorting the memories of a History Channel special as your own life.

      This explanation probably isn't applicable to all cases. *shrug*
      I agree.

      @ Lseadragon, - I have some memories before I was 3. And I checked with my mom, they are real. And in further detail, no one had even told me it had happened, so there is no possible way that my mind just made it up.

      The earliest memory I had was either my 2nd Christmas where I got my own guitar (2 years old), or when I fell off a shopping cart and smashed my head on the floor (2 months before I was 3)
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      Quote Originally Posted by Motumz View Post
      I agree.

      @ Lseadragon, - I have some memories before I was 3. And I checked with my mom, they are real. And in further detail, no one had even told me it had happened, so there is no possible way that my mind just made it up.

      The earliest memory I had was either my 2nd Christmas where I got my own guitar (2 years old), or when I fell off a shopping cart and smashed my head on the floor (2 months before I was 3)
      I was thinking of making a disclaimer saying that I was probably wrong. =P I believe it still holds true for very young children though.
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