Thread: sighingplant's workbook

Hey sighingplant, nice to meet you and welcome to our class! When you RC, do you try to become more aware of your surroundings?

Originally Posted by sighingplant

For a few weeks I've been taking melatonin before bed it helps with sleep, fight temptation of staying up by listening to music or podcasts, and stopping a racing mind. It helps with dream recall and it was also suggested on wiki but yesterday I read on here that it prevents lucidicity, probably why I've only had one. But I really need a confirm answer on the melatonin it's 10mg. Goals are: [] be lucid more. Gotta start small by focusing on one thing first before I can set what I wanna do in them imho.

Really? Opheliablue wrote in Lesson 1 that melatonin increases the chance of LDing. That's a little confusing. Do you remember where you read that melatonin decreased chances of LDing? Maybe one of the more experienced members or ones that have taken melatonin can weigh in on this. If you join one of our chat sessions in the next few days, this would be a good question to bring up. Sorry I can't say much about melatonin's effects, I haven't used it for LDing.

I like your goal, I think it's the goal of a lot of people in DV! It could help if you make a specific goal goal as well. LaBerge recommends it in his book, Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming. It's not necessary obviously, but consider if it as an option.

Originally Posted by LaBerge

Set explicit, specific, and numerical goals
Goals are personal, and are related to both your potential and your demonstrated abilities. Depending on your
level of achievement, you might want to remember one dream every night or two dreams every night, or to have
at least one lucid dream within the next week or month. When I started my dissertation research, I set myself a
goal to increase the number of lucid dreams I had each month. This made it easy for me to evaluate my performance in terms of specific goals.

How's your dream recall? Notice any dream signs over the past few months? If you have any questions, feel free to post them here in your workbook or PM me, RareCola or Ophelia!

Originally Posted by sighingplant

For a few weeks I've been taking melatonin before bed it helps with sleep, fight temptation of staying up by listening to music or podcasts, and stopping a racing mind. It helps with dream recall and it was also suggested on wiki but yesterday I read on here that it prevents lucidicity, probably why I've only had one. But I really need a confirm answer on the melatonin it's 10mg. Goals are: [] be lucid more. Gotta start small by focusing on one thing first before I can set what I wanna do in them imho.

Hi Sighingplant,

There is an excellent book on supplements by Thomas Yuschak, Advanced Lucid Dreaming, the Power of Supplements. Highly recommended.

Originally Posted by Caenis

Hey sighingplant, nice to meet you and welcome to our class! When you RC, do you try to become more aware of your surroundings?



Really? Opheliablue wrote in Lesson 1 that melatonin increases the chance of LDing. That's a little confusing. Do you remember where you read that melatonin decreased chances of LDing? Maybe one of the more experienced members or ones that have taken melatonin can weigh in on this. If you join one of our chat sessions in the next few days, this would be a good question to bring up. Sorry I can't say much about melatonin's effects, I haven't used it for LDing.

I like your goal, I think it's the goal of a lot of people in DV! It could help if you make a specific goal goal as well. LaBerge recommends it in his book, Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming. It's not necessary obviously, but consider if it as an option.


How's your dream recall? Notice any dream signs over the past few months? If you have any questions, feel free to post them here in your workbook or PM me, RareCola or Ophelia!

Nice to meet you too and thanks, when I RC I pretend to be as if dreaming and question my state or I'll RC if something seems out of place.

Originally Posted by gab

I have not read anywhere, that 5-HTP would counteract Melatonin. They are both suppose to give you good nights sleep.

About your dose of Melatonin - I could be wrong, but I have read here someplace, that the usual dose is only about 0.3mg. Have you read Yuschack's Power of supplements? He says that even 0.5mg of Melatonin can reduce chance at becoming lucid and it supresses REM, just as 5-HTP does.

Alright I'll add a more specific goal, my recall is usually good and yes I have a few dreamsigns but soon as I have my next dream I'll start journaling on DV too.

Originally Posted by DawgBone

Hi Sighingplant,

There is an excellent book on supplements by Thomas Yuschak, Advanced Lucid Dreaming, the Power of Supplements. Highly recommended.

Thanks I'm a bit broke though atm

Last night I went to bed 1ish AM and didn't go to sleep around 5ish AM thanks to my iPod touch lol. I woke up at 11:35 AM but my grandma had the living room tv so loud my recall was no where to be found, I jotted in my journal after the date "I don't remember any dreams". Current goals: [] soon as lucid explore my location [] talk to DC(s) [] fly

Hey sighingplant, welcome to the class!

To clarify about using melatonin or 5-htp or something like it, I just want to point out that hey help you recall your dreams. They also seem to help you recall more dreams per night, and I suspect they even increase how vivid the dreams are. Therefore, it increases the chances of lucid attainment. They are by no means instand-lucid pills (which I don't think you think, just had to say it ), and there seems to be a chance of your body getting used to them. So after a while, the effects seem to wear off. I only take 5-htp very sporadically now. In fact, when I first started taking it, my nutritionist had suggested it for insomnia. Helps to calm a racing mind, as you stated. The added bonus was better dream recall and lucids, but I noticed a huge spike, then a low plateau. So I decided to take them only every now and then, maybe to burst out of a dry spell, as oreoboy1996 once suggested to me.

With all that out of the way, I'm happy to see that you became lucid after a FA. I do that alot myself! Sorry about the recall last night though.. I find that now with school out, there's kids and dogs and all kinds of noise killing me.

Originally Posted by OpheliaBlue

Hey sighingplant, welcome to the class!

To clarify about using melatonin or 5-htp or something like it, I just want to point out that hey help you recall your dreams. They also seem to help you recall more dreams per night, and I suspect they even increase how vivid the dreams are. Therefore, it increases the chances of lucid attainment. They are by no means instand-lucid pills (which I don't think you think, just had to say it ), and there seems to be a chance of your body getting used to them. So after a while, the effects seem to wear off. I only take 5-htp very sporadically now. In fact, when I first started taking it, my nutritionist had suggested it for insomnia. Helps to calm a racing mind, as you stated. The added bonus was better dream recall and lucids, but I noticed a huge spike, then a low plateau. So I decided to take them only every now and then, maybe to burst out of a dry spell, as oreoboy1996 once suggested to me.

With all that out of the way, I'm happy to see that you became lucid after a FA. I do that alot myself! Sorry about the recall last night though.. I find that now with school out, there's kids and dogs and all kinds of noise killing me.

Thanks for clearing that up see you in the chat

Literally the same results as the day before :/ so today I'm going to work out and refrain from my touch, but I do have some good news I've probably done more RCs yesterday than I ever have in one day. Note to self do RCs as soon as I wake up too.

Glad you're remembering to do RCs often, your daily awareness is increasing!

Originally Posted by sighingplant

so today I'm going to work out and refrain from my touch.

Not quite sure I understand what you meant there.

Originally Posted by OpheliaBlue

Glad you're remembering to do RCs often, your daily awareness is increasing!



Not quite sure I understand what you meant there.

iPod touch lol

Haha. Gotcha.

Last night I took a melatonin and 2 dreams one idr what happened in it but 2 dream signs were in them and the second one was bout a complete bald headed dreadless Stevie Wonder and John Legend hoteling in my home by sleeping in a big topless wooden box for 2 (I know wtf lol). The scene changes and one of my dream signs Cousin C got on my computer to buy something but goes on the DV website.

So 3 dream signs in one night.. hope you're doing your reality checking!

It's ok, I had a BIG FAT dreamsign in a dream last night and I missed it. In fact, I accepted it so strongly as normal behavior, that even after I woke up, it took me a while to realize that it had all been a dream. So annoying.

So, you start a dream journal yet?

I didn't get a chance to post this morning cause I was busy. Last nite finally went to bed around 3 am and woke up 7ish am so I decided to do a WBTB I got up and chilled in the living room for 25 mins. While I did that I decided to imagine what Id want my lucid dream to take place and some predetermined DCs. Anyways I after those 25 mins I went to bed and decided to try a WILD. Unfortuanetly focused too much on the not letting the mind wander part and forgot the staying awake part so I fell asleep. I had a dream that was a racing (running) a friend (male) in a indoor gym then when went inside what looked like a bigger version of my bathroom and the finish line was to hop in my shower which in the dream was doorless. I look down see the shower floor was ankle water deep. (Male friend disappered) I made a comment how if your feet are dirty your gonna see immidiatly in the shower water. I hear laughter from a female friend of mines (one of the predetermined DCs I imagined) I look up and see her laughing. I step out and walk out the oversized bathroom and i turn around i'm like 4 feet away she's outside the bathroom infront of door which is btw magically closed. She facing her back to me but playing with her hair and looking back by turning her head to the side and seeing me with one eye and giggling. She turn away and repeats the above for a few times then breaks the ice by facing me with a big smile saying how she remembers how we met. I woke up pissed cause I wanted to hear more and couldn't believe I didn't go lucid. I've been friends with her for over a year almost 2 anyways this year she slowly began to like me, I don't feel the same but she's not ugly also if it don't work out I don't want things to go sour or/ and awkward. I imagined her as a predetermined DC so I could practice flirting with her incase I change my mind.

Originally Posted by OpheliaBlue

So 3 dream signs in one night.. hope you're doing your reality checking!

It's ok, I had a BIG FAT dreamsign in a dream last night and I missed it. In fact, I accepted it so strongly as normal behavior, that even after I woke up, it took me a while to realize that it had all been a dream. So annoying.

So, you start a dream journal yet?
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If you mean on DV then no I'm fine with the one beside my pillow (please checkout today's post on here)

Originally Posted by sighingplant

If you mean on DV then no I'm fine with the one beside my pillow (please checkout today's post on here)

Oh ok cool, thanks for letting me read. Yeah, too bad you didn't get lucid because it's really cool that you had a dream that included one of your predetermined DCs! Do you feel you had a longer and/or more vivid dream because you had a WBTB and chilled in the living room for 25 minutes?

Originally Posted by OpheliaBlue

Oh ok cool, thanks for letting me read. Yeah, too bad you didn't get lucid because it's really cool that you had a dream that included one of your predetermined DCs! Do you feel you had a longer and/or more vivid dream because you had a WBTB and chilled in the living room for 25 minutes?

Imagining the dream definatly made it more vivid and longer. I'm going to stick with this technique but instead of picking a setting and few DCs I'll just imagine a DC and a object like a ball or a door.

After this mornings dream i got up to use the restroom, grabbed my 2 small dogs (poodle pekenis mix aka pekapoo) and went back to bed with them to chill for a bit before my grandma came back and ended up falling back to sleep and having a FA where my grandma came back home she opened my bedroom door and scolding me for not taking a shower while she was gone. Also the dogs jumped off my bed and ran out the room. I woke up, door's closed and dogs beside me. I was super shocked because that was the second FA I ever had and unlike my 1st nothing seemed out of place just a realistic worst case scenario lol

Originally Posted by sighingplant

After this mornings dream i got up to use the restroom, grabbed my 2 small dogs (poodle pekenis mix aka pekapoo) and went back to bed with them to chill for a bit before my grandma came back and ended up falling back to sleep and having a FA where my grandma came back home she opened my bedroom door and scolding me for not taking a shower while she was gone. Also the dogs jumped off my bed and ran out the room. I woke up, door's closed and dogs beside me. I was super shocked because that was the second FA I ever had and unlike my 1st nothing seemed out of place just a realistic worst case scenario lol

Why does it say this post was yesterday when I posted this today?

Haha those are the worst FAs! I'll have those too, but where my alarm didn't go off properly and I'm late for work. I think that maybe because it's kind of a panicky situation, I don't necessarily notice if something's out of place or not.

Originally Posted by OpheliaBlue

Haha those are the worst FAs! I'll have those too, but where my alarm didn't go off properly and I'm late for work. I think that maybe because it's kind of a panicky situation, I don't necessarily notice if something's out of place or not.

For something seeming out of place, that's how my first DILD went so assume how it'll go for all DILDs

For today's post not a DJ entry but something else I realized around 3 ish AM that I'm bit afraid of my next LD involving my phobias. It's dumb probably just a thought but I thought I'd share.

Originally Posted by sighingplant

For today's post not a DJ entry but something else I realized around 3 ish AM that I'm bit afraid of my next LD involving my phobias. It's dumb probably just a thought but I thought I'd share.

What do you mean, what phobias?

Originally Posted by OpheliaBlue

What do you mean, what phobias?

Just a experiencing a lucid dream with some horrific creature or evil spirits cause I read somewhere on here that they hide in the dream world. Arachnidphobia. Also I cant help but notice that melatonin always makes my dreams vivid and bizzare obviously but also 1st person and I DONT TALK like if I'm holding back