Bemistaken's Workbook

MEDITATION EXPERIEMENT SESSION #2

DATE: 2/22/2015
MEDITATION START TIME: 5:30pm
MEDITATION END TIME: 6:05pm
MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus (acknowledging my breath) I added a Mantra "I am aware."

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
Today was extremely better than yesterday. During the day I told myself I will not focus on meditation and that I will let it just 'happen' like I usually do. I laid down in my semi head elevated position with lights dimmed and closed my eyes and took in three deep breaths. With those deep breaths I repeated my mantra (inhale "I am" exhale "aware"). After those deep breaths I just breath normally. This session was much different because I immediately started to feel a tingling sensation. I ignored it and keep breathing. I started out meditating with my left hand on my abdomen feeling it go up and down with each breath. Within 5 minutes my breathing kinda slowed to nothing (???) I was still breathing but my abdomen was not moving anymore...like my breathing was so shallow (trying to explain) like I started out taking deep breaths but ended up only needed to take a few sniffs for breaths. Eyes still closed by now I started to feel my body float but I wasn't lucid or anything like that. I ignored all of this. I recall seeing people that I didn't know or thinking about things I wouldn't think about in waking life. I had a feeling that these were dreamlets, but I did not want to lose my relaxation by focusing on this so I let them pass and I would bring myself back to my breathing...which was damn near absent by now because I couldn't feel my arm on my abdomen anymore. Maybe somebody could help me here but I felt like I couldn't depend on my breaths to keep me focused anymore because I was barely breathing so I just continue to stay anchored with my mantra. I would lose the mantra because of the dreamlets and then I started to focus on my 'third eye' like I usually do in meditation. By doing this I started to get vibes but not intense and I knew if I kept focusing on my third eye I may have become lucid. The last symptom I remember was as I focused on my third eye I felt myself occasionally take one short breath :uhm:. I don't really know how to explain but I just remember taking one short shallow breath every now and then that would kinda wake me up out of my trance (just thought I would document this symptom). My alarm went off because I didn't want to go over 30 minutes as I have a tendency to fall asleep.

RESULTS:
I believe results from this session were good. I really could have gone longer but I was so relaxed I know I would have slipped into unconsciousness. If I did I wonder if I would have had a lucid dream?

WHAT DID I LEARN/SELF EVALUATION/WHAT COULD BE DONE DIFFERENT:
I believe I did a pretty good job. What I need to understand is that no matter what sensations I am feeling that I need to just let them pass. I tried to ignore some of them, but as you can see I slightly still focused on these sensations. One great thing to note about this experiment is the more practice I get I will learn to let these sensations just go and I won't spend so much time on them. I never really paid attention to what was happening so that may be why I am acknowledging them now.

Also, I do believe that this afternoon session of meditation was better than the wee hours of the night one. However; no one was home during this afternoon session...which is rare.

Until next time. :)

Sounds like a really productive session, bemistaken! Well done! :)

Your self evaluation is spot on, don't worry about any sensations that arise during meditation, just like you wouldn't during a wild. There is a great deal of overlap between these practices, and sometimes even more so with experienced practitioners or sensitive (in a positive way) individuals. With regards to that, I think you have a great deal of both awareness and experience (yes I do!) so it wouldn't surpise me if you find yourself wilding in one of your meditation sessions. Again, the key thing to remember is not to worry about these sensations including one's breath as the body knows best how to regulate these things and mind anxieties have no place in any part of the process.

One thing that always helps me during meditation sessions, wilding or simply falling asleep is to focus on the pleasant feeling of relaxation itself. That seems to solve a lot of problems and can even serve as an anchor.

Keep it up, bemistaken! It really puts a smile on my face to read your lovely posts! :)

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With regards to that, I think you have a great deal of both awareness and experience (yes I do!)

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Thank you NyxCC! I really appreciate the compliment...sometimes I feel so stupid when I am trying to get lucid or even during this mediation experiment. Even though I have gotten some experience at WILDing, I really believe that it just happens by itself. I still have so much to learn and my ultimate goal is to have some type of control. I am very unstable and shaky when lucid so I'm hoping the meditation will take care of this.:)

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One thing that always helps me during meditation sessions, wilding or simply falling asleep is to focus on the pleasant feeling of relaxation itself. That seems to solve a lot of problems and can even serve as an anchor.

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Great tip! I do like the way if feels when I am relaxing...I feel like a big pat of butter...melting and oozing all over the place :lol:.

Stay tuned because I am starting to go to sleep before 12:00am now (my first time in months if not years was last night, I went to bed at 11:15pm!). Since last night, I turned off the lights AND the TV and went to sleep! My family asked me if I was sick! I told them "No, just trying to catch up on some rest." They stared at me until I was out of their sight! They probably think I'm going crazy! :cackle: I'm hoping I'm going LUCID.

MEDITATION EXPERIMENT SESSION #3

DATE: 2/25/2015
MEDITATION START TIME: 6:00pm
MEDITATION END TIME: 6:30pm
MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus (acknowledging my breath). No Mantra.

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
Today I was really really tired, but I wanted to continue on with my meditation. Symptoms within 5 minutes included slight vibrations, floating feeling, and tingling. Only meditated for 30 minutes, but very peaceful as I enjoyed the relaxation.

RESULTS:
Going by just my experience, I believe that all of my sessions are good as I continue to learn what my body responds to. Enjoyed the feeling of just being. ;-)

WHAT DID I LEARN/SELF EVALUATION/WHAT COULD BE DONE DIFFERENT: Will continue doing the same.

Until next time.

MEDITATION EXPERIMENT SESSION #4 REESULTS: WILD & DEILD w/ CLARITY AND STABILITY!

DATE: 2/26/2015
MEDITATION START TIME: 4:00pm
MEDITATION END TIME: 'Came to' around 5:20pm
MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus (acknowledging my breath). No Mantra.

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
Tired again today but committed to my cause of this experiment. I got in a comfortable position and slowed down my breathing to focus on my breaths. I was more fidgety than normal because so many things kept happening and I had to stop meditating (UPS at the door, phone ringing, son coming home from the gym). Everytime I had to stop I continued back with my breathing. Once I got to my quiet place, I started slightly tingling and within minutes I started seeing the dreamlets.

RESULTS:
I was bobbing in and out of consciousness, but I continued to hold on even though I was extremely close to falling asleep. I seems like just when I couldn't hold on anymore I started to sound like I was talking in a tunnel (my spoken thoughts in my head sound like I was in a tunnel). I focused on my 'third eye' and I floated out :flyaway:! 'Finally, I'm WILDing,' I thought. My plan has been to control and stabilize and be able to see clearly. I was very excited at first and I went back in my body, but in a few seconds I was able to concentrate myself back out.

Something happened that has never happened before...I came out upside down :huh:! My feet (if I have feet) were pointing towards the ceiling and my head was downward pointing towards my physical body. I could even feel my physical body so I knew that I had to get away from it or I could be sucked back in. I rubbed my hands together and asked for light and my entire bedroom lit up more lighter than in waking life :clairity: I could finally see! I have been in the dark and/or void for weeks and this is the first time in a long time I had light. However, I was still upside down but do you think I was going to stop just because I was upside down...HELL NO! My upside down ass was floating all around my room and I was lovin' it! I saw my window and 'willed' my way to it to leave my room. I was able to continue floating upside down outside my window. When I did this the scene changed and all I remember was being on a motorcycle with a child going down a lovely country road. This scene turned into a nonacid dream, but I remember everything about this nonacid dream because it was extremely vivid and emotional.

WHAT DID I LEARN/SELF EVALUATION/WHAT COULD BE DONE DIFFERENT:
"Patience is a virtue. There are no failures. Don't stop."

I won't stop. One Love. :)

Way to go, bemistaken! This is really getting very exciting! :D

Congrats on the lds, the clarity and on not giving up despite being upside down!

By the way, do you meditate in a lying posture, i.e. in your bed?

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By the way, do you meditate in a lying posture, i.e. in your bed?

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Hi NyxCC,
Thank you so much and all of the suggestions and tips have not been taken lightly. This is my first time really paying (ever so slightly) any attention to what I am doing in meditation. 99% of the time, I am in my bed laying down with my head slightly elevated with pillows with my right arm stretched out and my left arm on my abdomen. Lately, I have fore gone my left arm being on my abdomen to gauge my breaths because my breaths become so shallow and practically non-existent when I am really deep into meditation. I am always in my bed. I have tried sitting in the lotus position or even being in a recliner but this is way too uncomfortable for my back. I barely have any arch in my back (flat as a board) so it can be too painful at times to sit in a position for long periods.

I am a very light sleeper thanks to my insomnia, so going to sleep in my bed is usually the last thing I think about. I can only really meditate (or should I say WILD) when I am very very tired and I have not quite figured out why yet. It could be that with WILD you have to go to sleep and when I am ready for a nap I meditate first and then I know a WILD is right around the corner. But if I am not that tired and I meditate I usually don't WILD because I am not that sleepy.

Sorry to give you such a long explanation, but I find when I go into detail I can get some really great suggestions. Always grateful and always thankful for your comments NyxCC! :)

P.S. Any suggestion on how I can get myself to be right side up? I tried my best but at one point I was upside down going round and round like a ferris wheel when I tried to 'will' myself right side up. ;-)

Thanks for the explanations, bemistaken! :)

My normal meditation posture at the moment is at the sofa with stretched out legs. For me, this solves a number of problems such as aches in back and legs as well as helps maintain wakefulness, but is not the best posture if one would like to allow for wilds. With regards to that, I can relate to the benefits of your posture. I also agree that comfort should be a priority and one has to use the posture that they feel is best for them.

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I am a very light sleeper thanks to my insomnia, so going to sleep in my bed is usually the last thing I think about. I can only really meditate (or should I say WILD) when I am very very tired and I have not quite figured out why yet. It could be that with WILD you have to go to sleep and when I am ready for a nap I meditate first and then I know a WILD is right around the corner. But if I am not that tired and I meditate I usually don't WILD because I am not that sleepy.

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Whatever the reason, it seems that the odds are in your favor. Also, whatever you decide to do, whether it is simply meditation or letting go for a wild, you are always benefitting. How awesome is that! :)

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P.S. Any suggestion on how I can get myself to be right side up? I tried my best but at one point I was upside down going round and round like a ferris wheel when I tried to 'will' myself right side up.

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Sure, I've got an number of things you can try out and see which ones work best for you if the situation repeats:

1. Willing yourself right side up - you said this yourself. This is the simplest one and might work out. If not try something else.
2. Using whatever body parts are available - if you have tactile sensations and a normal dream body, just grab a nearby object and rotate yourself.
3. Create lines from anywhere in your dream body. You can create lines from your hands, eyes, or the center of your body and pull yourself in the desired direction. They can be lines that connect you to something, stretch into infinity or are ropes connected to nearby objects.
4. Change your perspective - I love this one! I remember reading a comment from the female astronaut Karen Nyberg about how she managed her sensations of discomfort from having to walk on a side surface (I'm not sure if this was outside the space station or inside, it would make more sense that she was peforming some external repair work).

In free space there is no gravity, so there is no ground, or ceilling or wall. Anything can be anything. And in dreams it works the same way! I remember it worked precisely like that with the "walk on the walls and ceiling" task. Once you switch perception, the ceiling becomes the floor and problem solved!

These are the ones I can think of right now, if I remember anything else will add it.

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Sure, I've got an number of things you can try out and see which ones work best for you if the situation repeats:

1. Willing yourself right side up - you said this yourself. This is the simplest one and might work out. If not try something else.
2. Using whatever body parts are available - if you have tactile sensations and a normal dream body, just grab a nearby object and rotate yourself.
3. Create lines from anywhere in your dream body. You can create lines from your hands, eyes, or the center of your body and pull yourself in the desired direction. They can be lines that connect you to something, stretch into infinity or are ropes connected to nearby objects.
4. Change your perspective - I love this one! I remember reading a comment from the female astronaut Karen Nyberg about how she managed her sensations of discomfort from having to walk on a side surface (I'm not sure if this was outside the space station or inside, it would make more sense that she was peforming some external repair work).

In free space there is no gravity, so there is no ground, or ceilling or wall. Anything can be anything. And in dreams it works the same way! I remember it worked precisely like that with the "walk on the walls and ceiling" task. Once you switch perception, the ceiling becomes the floor and problem solved!

These are the ones I can think of right now, if I remember anything else will add it.

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Love it! I will try these if it happens again! Thanks for taking the time to help me!

MEDITATION EXPERIMENT SESSION #5 REESULTS: MIRROR TOTM WILD SUCCESS!

DATE: 3/1/2015
MEDITATION START TIME: 12:30p
MEDITATION END TIME:2:30pm
MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus (acknowledging my breath).

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
Is is beginning to get a little easier to slip into a trance without paying attention to all the 'noises' and other interruptions. As soon as I got to my quiet zone I was seeing dreams. Before hand I had the TOTM of teleporting into a mirror and seeing what happens on the other side on my mind. I felt small vibes and was bobbing in and out of consciousness so I told my 'third eye' it was time.

RESULTS:
I laid there patiently waiting for the right body signal and I was able to be 'lifted' out. This time I was right side up (thank you GOD!) and I floated to the full length mirror in the living room. I have a difficult time with my aim and it took about two times to go through it because of under/over shooting the mirror. I told the mirror to please have anyplace other than my bedroom, house, front yard, etc. on the other side. Usually I can still be in or around my house or my dream will just all of a sudden end.

Before I went through the mirror I made sure to see how I looked and I was huge! Couldn't make out my face but I looked like a huge blob of me. Then the more I looked I started to shift change...on side was big and the other side was skinny and long. As I went through the mirror it was thick and 'suction' like. I made sure to keep my hands open to feel the mirror and it felt like pudding (or jello?). Anyway, I teleported to a creepy looking house (think Adam's family) and I walked around for a little while. The house had walls that you could see through because I could see other DC in the other rooms...mostly adults. Even the doors were see through. As soon as I tried to open my door it was locked and I couldn't get out. I wanted to try to do the other TOTM by going in someone's house and causing a stir, but the locked door freaked me out and as I continued to pull and jerk the locked door open I pulled and jerked myself awake...damn.

Anyway, I am really happy about this success because I believe I was able to go a little further than my bedroom...even if it was just through my full length livingroom mirror! :)

Yay, bemistaken! Congrats on the super awesome meditation plus lding session and completing the advanced task! :goodjob:

Fantastic job and the place where you found yourself sounded really interesting (even if a bit creepy). No worries should you find a locked door in another dream, even locked doors can be unlocked if one pulls them open. You can also try some telekinesis on them for fun. Remember you are always safe.

Anyways, congrats again on the awesome task execution. Keep it up! :)

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Fantastic job and the place where you found yourself sounded really interesting (even if a bit creepy). No worries should you find a locked door in another dream, even locked doors can be unlocked if one pulls them open. You can also try some telekinesis on them for fun. Remember you are always safe.

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I should have just went through the damn door if I would have been thinking straight! The locked door through me off and my mind played tricks on me after that. I was really excited so I know that I should have just stopped for a minutes to think logically and everything would have fallen into place. :)

MEDITATION EXPERIMENT SESSION # 6 & 7

DATE: 3/2/2015 & 3/3/2015
MEDITATION START TIME: After work around 7pm (ish)
MEDITATION END TIME: only did around 35-40 minutes
MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus (acknowledging my breath).

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
I have gone through a routine of focusing on my breath and it doesn't usually take very long for me to see short dreams. However, for the last couple of days I have been so strapped for time that by the time I do start seeing short dreams I have to stop because of some emergency (btw, none of them were emergencies).

RESULTS:
Let's just say the last couple of days I was able to find a quiet place for 35-40 minutes and just listen to myself breath...that's it. I have realized that the longer time I spend meditating the closer I am at easily becoming lucid but it does take me longer than 35-45 minutes. So this was something new that I really never paid attention to. Meditation session was not a loss at all because the experience and knowledge is priceless.

One Love. :)

MEDITATION EXPERIEMENT SESSION #8 RESULTS: SUCCESSFUL WILD & DEILDX2

DATE: 3/6/2015
MEDITATION START TIME: Before work around 9am (ish) right after a quick WBTB
MEDITATION END TIME: ??? (Bug spray man came beating on my door like he was the Police and I had to stay up with him and go outside and answer questions about the insects I have been seeing. I have no idea when he left so I have no idea when I actually finished this session)
MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus (acknowledging my breath).

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
I really don't even remember having any symptoms while meditating. I remember going to bed around a little after 2:0am (I know, I had a long day). I decided that I would wake up and do a proper WBTB. So, I got up around 8:30am and did the usual restroom, drink of water thing. My goal was to concentrate on something totally different with my goal of LD. I wanted to time travel. I had no intention of where I was going to go (future or past) but I know I have been having this as one of my goals and this is my year to complete it. I made a point to stay up for at least 30 minutes and around 9am I laid back down.

RESULTS
I swear all I remember is closing my eyes and the next thing I knew I was already out (no warning, no effort, no nothing). I was in the void and I still could see little in the void. Right in front of my face was a stuffed animal. I tried to change it into anything that I could 'ride' or 'fly' into a different time zone, but I ended back up in my body. I DEILD back out and I was flying in the grey zone. I kept saying in my head 'Go forward or back into time' but the weird thing that happened as I was flying to the right of me was some guy dancing in a marching band uniform :wtf:??? This threw me off and I lost focus and the dream fell apart. I was able to DEILD back out for the third time but I didn't have enough lucid energy to keep it together and it deteriorated.

What did I learn/what could be done different
I believe that I need to be prepared with a clear goal when LDing. I need to understand that my mind is the most powerful weapon I have when lucid and when my mind is not focus and clear...nothing will be.

IMPROVEMENT ON CLARITY AND EFFECTIVENESS?
My clarity and effectiveness is improving by leaps and bounds. Even though I have on occasion ended up in the grey/void, I find it so much easier to gain clarity. This may be contributed to the meditation. I have also found the mental strength of the lucidity is increasing. I can focus a little longer on something or I can have more strength in my 'will' to accomplish something. I will continue to note this small successes and continue on with breath focus meditation technique.

One Love. :)

OMG Lucy!
I just realized that I had my 50th LD on Dreamviews! Doesn't sound like much to some, but to me this is like saying I had a million! Congrats to me and Lucy!

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Congrats on the lds and on reaching a milestone, bemistaken! :breakitdown:

It is really very exciting to follow your progress and see you improve everytime! Your practices have been quite an inspiration too. I wanted to restore the frequency of my meditation sessions, and I have to say reading about your sessions gives me an extra boost when I think of skipping a session. Also love all the positivity coming from your posts! :)

MEDITATION EXPERIEMENT SESSION #9
DATE: 3/7/2015
MEDITATION START TIME: 6:14p
MEDITATION END TIME: Maybe 30 minutes or fewer, got too frustrated because too many people were visiting today (Saturdays are suppose to be peaceful!)
MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus (acknowledging my breath).

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
It took me way to long to start feeling any symptoms due to so many people in the house. I got to frustrated and gave up. No need torturing myself.

RESULTS
First my results were that I was pissed off, but then I really couldn't blame my family...hey, it was a Saturday and I should have saved my meditation session for the wee hours of the night after my WBTB. So then I decided it was no need to get pissed off.

What did I learn?
Timing for meditation is just as important as it is for everything else when it comes to lucid dreaming.

Until the next time. :)

BTW Lucy, I WILL TIME TRAVEL so don't get comfortable with me!

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I wanted to restore the frequency of my meditation sessions, and I have to say reading about your sessions gives me an extra boost when I think of skipping a session.

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Go for it NyxCC!
I have never meditated like this before as for in frequency and quality, but it truly is making a world of difference for me. Even if it is just me finding a quiet place in my office for 15 minutes, I will count it as a session. After awhile, my body starts to crave that intimate moment that I have been sharing with myself and I feel a 'pulling' sensation throughout the day to go to a quiet place somewhere to 'just mentally decompress.' I am beginning to find this necessity truly a part of my everyday life like eating and drinking...my body or should I say mentality must have it to survive in this world. :)

Thank you for your kind comments.

I love reading your progress using mediation. I was meditating regularly last month, but I wasn't thinking of it as a way to WILD. A friend pointed out that WILD and meditation are basically the same thing so it sort of changed my way of thinking a bit. I have avoided meditating while laying down because I use it to beat insomnia from time to time. Of course, this isn't true meditation; forcing thoughts away without anything to focus on knocks me right out. I reserve the breathing meditations for when I am not trying to LD and I sit upright. Anyway, I'm rambling now, but this is the inspiration I've been needing to get back at it.

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Edit: And congrats on hitting #50!!!

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I love reading your progress using mediation. I was meditating regularly last month, but I wasn't thinking of it as a way to WILD. A friend pointed out that WILD and meditation are basically the same thing so it sort of changed my way of thinking a bit. I have avoided meditating while laying down because I use it to beat insomnia from time to time. Of course, this isn't true meditation; forcing thoughts away without anything to focus on knocks me right out. I reserve the breathing meditations for when I am not trying to LD and I sit upright. Anyway, I'm rambling now, but this is the inspiration I've been needing to get back at it.

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Wow...I am truly humbled that you have visited my workbook page Xanous! You are AWESOME and I am so not worthy :bowdown:. I have been stalking...cough cough, I mean following you the entire year I have been on DV. Your postings have helped me understand my mind and how to utilize some techniques focusing on mental control. Please don't be a stranger because I am just a beginner when it comes to meditation and I am only going on what I read here from the moderators, facilitators, and members on DV.

If there is ever any advise you can give me on improvement or any additional tips let me know...I'm all ears! Keep following my meditation experiment and I hope that maybe we can do an experiment together in the near future!

Again, I am humbled. ONE LOVE. :)

MEDITATION EXPERIEMENT SESSION #10
DATE: 3/9/2015
MEDITATION START TIME: 6:45pm
MEDITATION END TIME: 7:50pm
MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus (acknowledging my breath).

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
Emotionally and physically drained from losing just one hour from daylight savings time. I came home like a damn zombie. By the time I got to my spot for meditation I had to really work at relaxing. It may have taken me maybe 15-20 minutes to quiet down. My emotions played a huge part in relaxing so I told myself that the problems will still be there when I finish relaxing. I finally got to the tingling sensations with slight vibes, but they were extremely weak.

RESULTS
I found that when I let my body give in to relaxing, my body actually "loosen," like when you untie a knot. Loosening from the bottom of my feet working its way up to my hips, my abdomen, my chest and shoulders, my neck, and then to my head. By the time the tension left my head I felt like my entire body was floating and it felt wonderful! By now, I was almost 1 hour into meditation and my session was almost over.

What did I learn?
I never really thought about how much work it is for the human body to fight against everything going on in our head. It may not take much to get pissed off these days but it sure does take a lot for your body to recover from getting pissed off. I have learn that I don't want to work so hard undoing all the stupid stuff that may have happened to me at work when I only have a 30-45 minute meditation window. I lost a lot of time fighting with my emotions and trying to rebound from the tension. Using precious energy during meditation trying to pacify my body and expel the negative nonsense from work and/or home life.

I have learned that there is no way to make SENSE from NONSENSE and FREEDOM is FREE.

One Love. :)

Ahhh shucks :embarrassed: Thanks, but I'm not nearly at the level as some of the people on DV. I've actually felt like a total newbie lately with my LD length and clarity. It's cool that you find some of my ramblings useful though. :D. I'm not on here as much as I'd like to be, but NyxCC pointed me here so I gave it a look. I'm pretty novice as a meditater but maybe we can share experiences. I actually tried to do a episode with Wurlman on meditation but I don't think we're experienced enough to really talk about it in depth, so I'm scrapping that one — We may try again later.

I don't really have any advice for you, but I find meditation can be done throughout the day during various activities; I try to keep some mindfulness that way. Something I do to while I'm jogging is to meditate on my breathing as a sort of breathing meditation. I find that it helps me to keep a relaxed frame of mind and not worry so much about being tired or how much longer I have to go. I can get myself really worked up and my run becomes less enjoyable. This really makes it easier to run much farther. I don't know if you run or if anyone else does this, but it's just an example of active meditation. I find it's good practice regardless.

I was able to meditate on breathing at bedtime last night and got a good session in before bed, so that was the start of my trial. Also, I woke at 4am and tried to meditate on my 'third eye', but fell asleep pretty quickly. However, I was rewarded with a short DILD an hour an a half later so maybe meditation had something to do with it. I'll have to post that after we watch our show. The whole dream, especially the NLD part, was a CRAZY one!

Thanks again for the kind words. I'll keep in touch. It helps to have someone to talk to about this stuff. :D

OK so I wont litter your workbook with my exp, but I want to tell you I had a really cool meditation right at bed time. I almost lost consciousness twice, but pulled it back just before I went to deep. Also, I had some really cool, indescribable body sensations (like a shift in the brain) that I just couldn't get through due to excitement and heart rate. Also, during the night I kept a meditative DEILD mind-set and entered vibrations twice, but it only lasted but a few seconds — not that vibes are necessary but I experience it 99% of the time.

When you meditate and you get in the zone, do you notice how thoughts become random, meaningless background noise and not really anything too distracting? I always wonder how others experience it. It's usually like a TV on low volume in the other room. I can hear it, but it doesn't make any sense because I am not focused on it. I did, however, get some really beautiful thoughts that totally spoke to a situation of mine at the beginning.

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Within 5 minutes my breathing kinda slowed to nothing (???) I was still breathing but my abdomen was not moving anymore...like my breathing was so shallow (trying to explain) like I started out taking deep breaths but ended up only needed to take a few sniffs for breaths. Eyes still closed by now I started to feel my body float but I wasn't lucid or anything like that. I ignored all of this. I recall seeing people that I didn't know or thinking about things I wouldn't think about in waking life. I had a feeling that these were dreamlets, but I did not want to lose my relaxation by focusing on this so I let them pass and I would bring myself back to my breathing...which was damn near absent by now because I couldn't feel my arm on my abdomen anymore. Maybe somebody could help me here but I felt like I couldn't depend on my breaths to keep me focused anymore because I was barely breathing so I just continue to stay anchored with my mantra. I would lose the mantra because of the dreamlets and then I started to focus on my 'third eye' like I usually do in meditation. By doing this I started to get vibes but not intense and I knew if I kept focusing on my third eye

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BTW I wanted to comment on this the other day. I think you were in that in-between stage. I often get strange things happening to me during WILD and I'm not quite what my physical body was doing or not doing. I'll think my wife said or did XYZ only to later realize it was all part of the dream. Most likely every sensation during this time is the dream and should be taken with a grain of salt. Anyway, your progress in this is really inspiring. I'm totally going to keep at this. Best of luck!

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not that vibes are necessary but I experience it 99% of the time.

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Hi Xanous!
I appreciate you coming back to my "I Love Lucy" workbook :cheeky: I get vibrations 99% of the time also. When I didn't know what it was, I use to tell my husband that I would be waken out of my sleep by electrocution, but it never hurt. I didn't know what to call it until I joined Dreamviews. Thanks for keeping up with my experiment I really want to have another set of eyes watching this because I know this will help me learn...even if it is just how to quiet my mind.

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When you meditate and you get in the zone, do you notice how thoughts become random, meaningless background noise and not really anything too distracting? I always wonder how others experience it. It's usually like a TV on low volume in the other room. I can hear it, but it doesn't make any sense because I am not focused on it

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Yes! I start seeing things that I know I would never even think about in my right mind (i.e., like me watching someone getting on top of a horse or someone I don't know singing as they climb a latter up to a roof). Just a whole lot of nothing I wouldn't even bother thinking about in real life. Lots of strange things happen to me during a WILD. The only unusual thing that has me perplexed during my WILD is sometimes I will be lifted up by some type of tornado :tornado: wind force against my will and for some reason...I'm always going backwards. Yes, being picked up by some kind of suction or wind and I am always dragged backwards. You know how a mother lion will carry her baby cubs by the neck in her mouth? That was how it happened to me one time. I was picked up by my neck, lifted into the air and I couldn't turn around to see what it was. I was in my bedroom and the wind was so loud behind me! I couldn't understand how all that wind was blowing, but nothing in my bedroom was moving but me (i.e., curtains still as can be along with everything else). I normally freak out too much to go to wherever I am being taken and when I get scared...it always let's me go and I am back in my body. So far, this has been the strangest thing that has happened to me (twice). I promised myself the next time it happens...I'm going! :)

MEDITATION EXPERIEMENT

SESSION #11 DATE: 3/10/2015 MEDITATION START TIME: 7pm (ish) MEDITATION END TIME: 8:15 pm

SESSION #12 DATE: 3/12/2015 MEDITATION START TIME: 8pm MEDITATION END TIME: 8:55 pm

MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
I have been slightly (ok, majorly) stressed from work and I'm really not trying to make up excuses, I promise I'm not. However this stress is following me home. I believe I'm meditating far too late in the day. By the time I settle down for meditation and finish the session, it is almost time for bed. I have to try waking up in the middle of the night with my WBTB to try my meditation sessions to see if this will make a difference. Sensations are the same, but when I'm really stressed it takes a long time for me to relax. When I finally do settle down, I can feel some weak vibes and slight feeling of floating. I also will hear my thoughts get distant every now and then. And as always, random short dreamlets. For this week, never strong enough for me to lift out.

RESULTS
I can say no matter how bad I think I did with my meditation, I always feel sooooo much better when I am finished. It may take me a while to settle my mind, but when I come out of it I feel so good...like I can go on another day. So every session is truly a success. At one point today during meditation, I was mentally fighting with myself and I had to realize that thoughts will seep through AND LET THEM! Instead of letting myself get all tensed up I need to understand these random thoughts will go away and I can get back to relaxing. My job will still be there tomorrow.

What did I learn?
Tension is a B#TCH!

I will carry on! :)