Bemistaken's Workbook

Date: January 16, 2015
Method: MILD, WBTB, DILD
Total Sleep Time: 5 hours, then WBTB 15 minutes, Mantra (I am Lucid, I recognize I am dreaming)

Lucy, you did it again! I got another DILD this morning! I was dreaming that I was driving this car...it was such a beautiful scenery. Then, I approach this very steep hill and I thought to myself, "There is no way possible I will live if I go down that hill...this has got o be a dream!" For a split second, I thought about me driving down that hill, but I thought, "What if you go down that hill and die?" Don't try that as a reality check! I did my levitation RC instead and levitated and then like magic, everything stopped and I was lucid. I felt the vibrations and just laid there waiting to pop out but I never did. I could see my room through my closed eyelids so I concentrated on my third eye and the vibes came back, but I just couldn't wiggle out...sigh. Oh well, keep them coming Lucy! :)

NOTE TO SELF: What I should have realized was that I was already 'out' and just changed the dream scene :bang:

Way to go, Bemistaken! You really are on fire! :D

Date: 1/22/2015
Method: WILD and DEILD
Total Sleep Time: ???
Attempted TOTM: Fail

For the last two days, I have been living on pure adrenalin. I have had to travel out of state and have been on a total of four planes and drove 6 hours in just two days. Today, I was sleeping on and off...only getting up for something to drink or eat and back to bed. During my last nap today, I laid down and immediately as soon as my head hit the pillow I started feeling vibes. I thought I should take advantage of this, but I was just too exhausted and I didn't think anything would happen because I could hear my son talking in the next room. I was getting ready to get up and tell him to "shut the hell up because I'm still trying to sleep" but then I started 'tingling.' I was tingling so much that I thought this has to be a sign. I focused my attention on my third-eye just to see what would happen.After a couple of tries, I was out! I couldn't believe it because this was truly the first WILD where I can actually say there was no nodding in and out of consciousness while saying mantra, no gaps, no nothing...just one minute I talking to myself in the physical and the next minute I'm lucid. I don't know if this make sense, but this is the first time I actually 'seen' or 'felt' the WILD transition :).

Once I was out, I couldn't see. I have been in the 'void' since the last three lucids and I refused to be in it again! :angry: I forgot about asking for clarity, but instead asked to see my Creator...nothing happened but a whole lot of flashes. I was in this moment of nothingness and found myself back in my body. I can say I am an expert at DEILDing my way back out (not bragging) after a good WILD, so that is exactly what I did. I came back out in the 'void' and something told me to open my eyes (if I have eyes) so that is what I did and I was able to see. I was in my bedroom, but my bedroom furniture was rearranged. My TV was on the opposite side of the room and I had this weird looking antique dresser in the corner. The funny thing is when I was looking at my television, I saw a big picture of me...like I was on the news or something :lol:.

I knew I was going to run out of Lucy so I saw some matches on that weird antique dresser I don't have in real life. I thought about the fireworks TOTM and I tried to turn the matches into fireworks (this should have at least created fire being that they were matches, but of course nothing happened). As I was thinking how horrible I am at creating something or summoning, I started being sucked backwards by some kind of force or suction but I couldn't see what or who it was. This has only happened once before, so I was not surprised by it. However, your mind does start to play tricks on you and I just wanted to know why am I always going backwards :wtf:??? I started to resist and ended back in my body.

Of course, the third time is always a charm for me so I DEILD back out but Lucy was weak as hell. I tried my best to concentrate to make anything appear but my focus was shot. I somehow was in both the physical and spiritual at the same time (I think) because I felt my body but I could see out of my bedroom window and I saw slides (like the kind at a water park). By now, Lucy was tired of playing around with me as if she was saying, "You're not ready or you need more practice" and she was gone :?

Notes to self:
1. Relax!
2. Practice focusing and stabilization techniques
3. Meditate...without rushing. Take meditation serious!
4. No anger or frustration...always, always, be thankful!

As always Lucy...humbled and grateful. One Love. :)

Wow, that's a great deal of travelling, bemistaken!

Luckily, some sleep schedule disruptions can be a secret blessing, especially for experienced lders like yourself. Well done! :)

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I knew I was going to run out of Lucy so I saw some matches on that weird antique dresser I don't have in real life. I thought about the fireworks TOTM and I tried to turn the matches into fireworks (this should have at least created fire being that they were matches, but of course nothing happened). As I was thinking how horrible I am at creating something or summoning, I started being sucked backwards by some kind of force or suction but I couldn't see what or who it was. This has only happened once before, so I was not surprised by it. However, your mind does start to play tricks on you and I just wanted to know why am I always going backwards ??? I started to resist and ended back in my body.

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Your summoning skills are fine, bemistaken! Do you think those matches just happened to be there by chance? Nope, you did it! :goodjob2:

About the being sucked back thing, I've read something similar happened to Xanous a couple of times, so this might be some sort of a dream exit mechanism that sometimes we become aware of. He also gets a lot of vibes like you by the way. Also, I recall one case in which I spontaneously began swirling up and backwards in a circle till the dream faded and I found myself in bed. Very interesting stuff to say in the least. Let's keep an eye on this, maybe there is more to learn. :)

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Your summoning skills are fine, bemistaken! Do you think those matches just happened to be there by chance? Nope, you did it!

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I didn't know that??? Wow, that makes me look at summoning in a whole different light now! You have just given me the 'boost' I needed to believe in my summoning skills! :thanks:

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About the being sucked back thing, I've read something similar has happened to Xanous a couple of times, so this might be some sort of a dream exit mechanism that sometimes we become aware of. He also gets a lot of vibes like you by the way. Also, I recall one case in which I spontaneously began swirling up and backwards in a circle till the dream faded and I found myself in bed. Very intersting stuff to say in the least. Let's keep an eye on this, maybe there is more to learn.

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Thanks NyxCC! I think the next time it happens, I going to let it take me to whereever it is trying to take me. The first time it happened I felt like I was being pulled backwards by a tornado...I was going up, up and away and I couldn't turn around to see what was going on. It HAS TO MEAN SOMETHING! Thanks for your wonderful advise!

Date: 1/25/2015
Method: MILD, Mantra
Total Sleep time: 8 hours

All I remember is something about a butterfly...yeah, that's it. :?

Date: 1/26/2015
Method: MILD, Mantra
Total Sleep time: 8 hours
WBTB Time: 15-20 minutes

I remember three fragments:

1. I was writing a letter to GOD and asking him when I will see him and/or what will it take to see him
2. I was riding in the car with with Beyonce and Solange (this should have been a dream sign for me...never ever will happen in my lifetime)
3. False awakening: I was writing in my dream journal about riding in the car with Beyonce and Solange...sigh
4.I was making coffee in my walk in closet and someone was trying to turn on the stereo (also in my closet) and we couldn't figure out how to turn it on.

I LUCID DREAM TONIGHT!!! :offtobed:

LOL to the FA of writing in dream journal, been there done that, sigh indeed.

Date: 1/27/2015
Method: WBTB MILD (fail)
Total Sleep Time: 7ish

Full dream remembered
I woke up to hearing some animal make a weird noise by my bedroom window. I looked at the window and found that it was a pit bull coming through the window screen. I ran to my husband screaming saying a pit bull is trying to come through our window and he went over to investigate. I ran out the bedroom and told him to come out of there before it gets through the window! I wanted to lock the pit bull in the bedroom so he couldn't hurt my kids. As my husband came running out of the bedroom, he stopped short and turned around and started laughing. I asked him what the hell is he laughing at and he stated those were not pit bulls but piglets. I looked behind him scared as hell only to see piglets...yes, piglets.

WBTB failed: 2 points
Full dream: 1 point

Total: 3 points

Date: 1/28/2015
Method: WBTB MILD (fail)
Total Sleep Time: 8-9 hours

Full dream remembered:
Went to church and needed to step back out of church to go to my car to get something. I saw huge peaches falling down from trees and wanted to go eat one. I picked one up off of the ground and decided to get more. I saw this lady looking out of her window from her home at me picking up peaches. I asked her if it was ok for me to get the peaches. She stated that I can only get the ones that fell on the ground. I told her that was what I was doing in the first place. After I got around 2 or 3 handfuls, she said she would go get me a bag to put them in. Her yard worker came to clean away the rotten peaches and he then stopped her and asked if she would mind filming a short video of him speaking. She hesitated, but said yes. The scene changed and all I remember is seeing the video the woman took. In the video, the yard person ended up killing the woman so I could pick all the peaches I wanted...creepy.

WBTB fail: 2 points
Full dream remembered: 1 point

Total: 3 points

Thank you to Frying Man's "2015 Year of the Breath".
Date: 1/28/2015
Sleep time: None, this all happened during meditation (MANTRA: "I am my breath")
WILD + DEILD (RC)!

Was going to take a nap, but instead decided to meditate instead using my breath as my anchor. I focused on my breath going through every pore of my body. I have been reading Frying Man's "2015 Year of the Breath" and I wanted to practice starting off small by focusing on my own breath. Also, had WILDing on my mind all day long, so intent was there. During my breath meditation, maybe 15 minutes in my mantra I began to feel vibes and concentrated on third eye and vibes became stronger and I was out in my bedroom. As soon as I ask for light, I heard my husband shouting in the next room at the TV (games was on) and it scared the sh#t out of me and I was back in my body. No problem, DEILD my way back out and did a quick RC of levitation...success. I was in the void and I tried to 'feel' my way around, but it began to collapse. I was back in my body and could hear every damn thing going on in the house so I just gave up. I was happy I got this far! I will try again tomorrow...GO STONES!

WILD: 10 points
DEILD: 5 points
RC (levitation successful) 1 points
TOTAL POINTS: 16

TOTAL POINTS FOR COMPETITION: 28 1/2 points.

Come on Lucy, give me more!

Date: 1/29/2015
Method: WBTB MILD (fail)
Total Sleep Time: 4 hours, not enough!

Full dream remembered Most Stupid Way Ever I Missed Becoming Lucid!

I was dreaming someone was trying to teach me how to fly when lucid. The dream was so real, I could feel the wind blowing in my face and this person would hold my hand and take me higher and higher in the sky. How can something you desire be so plainly in your face that you just don't get it? How could I not become lucid during this??? I even remember saying the word 'LUCID' and still didn't get lucid! How can that be??? :whyme:

For some reason, the dream started with me continuously falling back to the ground every time I took flight, so this person (don't know who she was) was flying like a bird in the sky and came down and took me by the hand and said she was going to show me how to fly...it was absolutely beautiful :).

I WILL BE LUCID TONIGHT!

Dream remembered: 1 point
WBTB Fail: 2 points
Total 3 points

Total Points for Competition: 31 ½ points

Congrats on the wild + deild, bemistaken!

So was your meditation/nap in the middle of the day or just before bedtime? I suppose you did it lying on the bed, right? Sounds like a really cool experience. You're becoming a yogi! :)

Awesome flying dream too! Next time you'll be super lucid and able to practice some more.

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Originally Posted by bemistaken

I was dreaming someone was trying to teach me how to fly when lucid. The dream was so real, I could feel the wind blowing in my face and this person would hold my hand and take me higher and higher in the sky. How can something you desire be so plainly in your face that you just don't get it? How could I not become lucid during this??? I even remember saying the word 'LUCID' and still didn't get lucid! How can that be??? :whyme:

For some reason, the dream started with me continuously falling back to the ground every time I took flight, so this person (don't know who she was) was flying like a bird in the sky and came down and took me by the hand and said she was going to show me how to fly...it was absolutely beautiful :).
Total Points for Competition: 31 ½ points

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Wow, bemistaken, talk about a close call! Lucid or no, that sounds like a fantastic dream. :content:

That's great practice for your next flying LD. There are competition points for flying, aren't there? Your subconscious is training you! How cool is that? :happy:

Keep up the great work!

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So was your meditation/nap in the middle of the day or just before bedtime? I suppose you did it lying on the bed, right? Sounds like a really cool experience. You're becoming a yogi!

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Hi NyxCC,
My nap was during the end of the day. Normally I try to meditate right after work to decompress...around 6 or 7 pm. It really calms me down and I love it! Thanks!

Date: 2/15/2015
Method: MILD & WBTB
Total sleep time: 6- 6 ½ hours
Recall: Pretty good!

Short but vivid dream:
I was in our local grocery store buying groceries (broccoli to be exact) and I did not have my debit card. I really needed this broccoli for some reason and I needed to call home for someone to bring me my debit card but I didn't have a phone either. I recall packing up the broccoli and putting it in my car like I was going to steal it...because I really needed the broccoli :cackle:.

Date: 2/16/2015
Method: MILD & WBTB
Total sleep time: not enough! 5 hours.
Recall: sucks.

Welp Lucy, I did not get much sleep last night and I had to wake up literally running because I almost over slept so I don't remember a damn thing about a really good dream I had. My goal is to not move my body when I wake up and try to see if I'm having a false awakening or if I can catch myself leaving and/or entering a dream. But when I woke up late this morning you can bet I bolted out the bed sprinting like the bed was on fire.

No worries though, (in my Barry White voice) I been thinking about you all day and what I'm going to do to you tonight! Oh baby, you are in for a treat...I'm going to do anything and everything to you so get ready baby...here I come :cheeky:!

Note: I all of a sudden remember having a dream about Pattie Labelle.

Date: 2/18/2015
Method: MILD & WBTB (along with ADA & RC/RRC)
Total sleep time: 6 ish hours...have not been sleeping at all!

I know you are right around the corner and I am ready for you Lucy! It's only a matter of time and I will be patiently waiting ;).

Date: 2/18/2015
Method: MILD & WBTB (along with ADA & RC/RRC)
Total sleep time: only 4hours, work schedule is chaotic at this time.

Dream
I colleague of mines sick in RL, she was in my dream from last night and she had just returned back to work. In RL she wears her hair short and platinum blonde but in the dream, her short hair was a jet black. She also is an older woman and in my dream she was very young...almost like a young teen-age girl.

Fragment
Something about my MAC Cosmetic powder puff being ripped to shreds.

Fragment
I dreamt that I was entering my classroom getting ready to lecture my students. I had my it into the class room right on the nose. In RL I am very strict on my students coming into my class late so they are heavily penalized for being late. In the dream as I was coming in the door and the students were all seated in their seats and one of them looked at the clock behind her on the wall and said, "Your late." I told her I was not late and that I was right on time. Class starts at 2:05pm and it was 2:05pm. In real life I tell my students if they are on time then that means they are late.

The strange thing about this fragment I had last night is that it actually happened today! Freaked the hell out of me. I went into my classroom at 2:05pm because I was trying to print something before class had started and I was having trouble with the printer. Upon entering the class (just like in the dream) a female student said, "Your late." I told her, "I am not late, I am right on time because class starts at 2:05pm and it is 2:05pm." I stopped dead in my tracks and thought to myself, "Is this a dream?" Of course I did a quick 'mental' reality check of levitation as I got ready to call the class roster....Damn! It wasn't a dream, but how cool is this! :wink:

^^ Whoa! This really is trippy! :boggle:

Date: 2/19/2015
Method: MILD & WBTB (along with ADA & RC/RRC)
Total sleep time: Did not go to bed until 5:00am, woke up at 7:30am, then went back to bed after getting something to eat at 8:45am. Slept until 1:00pm (ish)

Had two really vivid dreams...

Dream
Getting ready to go to a party or dance and was looking at my hair in the mirror. For a quick second, I did stare at the mirror because my hair was in a very different hairstyle than I usually wear it, but I did not question it so I didn't get lucid. I noticed something was growing out of my ear and I pulled on it and it came out looking like a capsule (the shape of a suppository). Once I yanked it out (Warning: this is going to be gross so now is your chance to leave) I started to taste this gross fluid from my ear drain in my mouth and down my throat :barf:. I spit the gross thick fluid out of my mouth and into the sink. It was this yellow green sticky looking stuff just plastered on the sink...gross. I finish playing with my hair and headed to the dance/party like nothing happened.

Fagment
My husband was asking me what happened to some exercise weights I had and I told him they were in my gym bag. He was angry and told me not to move them out of our home gym.

Lucy, I am wondering how important the quality of meditation is to me when it comes to LDing. I have only put in a half effort in meditation and to be honest I just found out about meditation and its importance last year. However when I do meditate, I found in the past that I have more frequent LD's. Usually I will try to meditate for around 30 minutes at least 3 times a week. What I found is that this is just not enough for me. Even when I do meditate the quality of the meditation is not good at all. What I mean by this is that before I start my meditation session I can go all around the house and make an announcement telling everyone that I am going to meditate AND please do not disturb me AND please cut down on the noise AND please do this for me for just 30 minutes. My family will still go on talking at the same loud volume, I can hear the phone ring, I can hear someone getting something to eat because the microwave keeps going off, I can hear someone laughing hysterically, I can hear someone yelling at the game on TV, and so on...

So I questioned myself, "If I put in an effort to meditate at least 30 minutes a day without anyone being home or meditate when we are all asleep in the middle of the night (during my WBTB), what difference would that make in me having LD's and what would the quality of the LD's be?"

I have paid so much attention to ADA, RC, and RRC's that I have given meditation the short end of the stick. I really want to do an experiment and focus on the quality of my meditation sessions and see if this will have a positive effect on my LD's (on top of my ADA, RC, RRC's). So here is my game plan:

Experiment will start this weekend (February 21, 2015) and continue until March 31, 2015

1. Continue with ADA, RC, and RRC's
2. Continue documentation of dreams in dream journal
2. Meditation session at least for 30 minutes focusing on breath 5 out of 7 days a week.
3. Mediation session must be when there is no chance of being interrupted (i.e., no one home, or during the middle of the night when everyone is asleep like during a 3:00am or 4:00am WBTB)
4. Must get enough sleep! Must go to bed at a decent time and obtain at least 6 total hours of sleep time. If doing a WBTB, then sleep at least 4 hours before attempting a WBTB, meditate, then go back to bed.
5. Try to determine when I actually do start to dream and document this time (i.e., if I meditate after my WBTB around 4:00am, then I go back to bed, I should be waking up around the time a dream finishes...so I want to document this time for future reference).
6. Continue with regular healthy diet, exercise, and doctor prescribed medications (never have taken supplements).


Currently I may average 2-3 LD's a month but I have been known to hit a dry spell after coming off of a really good month, so this can vary. Also, the quality of my LD's are pretty weak (unstable, dark or total blackness, extremely short and fragment). I want to have good quality LD's (clarity, strength, vividness, length, etc.). My goal is really not in the number of LD's I may have but in the INCREASE IN QUALITY OF THE LD that I do have. With this experiment, it doesn't matter to me how I get the LD's (WILD, DEILD's, DILD, etc), my desire is to just maintain high quality LD's, no matter what the method is. In my meditation sessions, I will document the start time and end time, any problems I may have had, and any body symptoms I may have while meditating. I will pay special attention to all dreams whether lucid or non lucid and document all findings here in my workbook.

My lucid dreaming goals have always been to summon, time travel, telekinesis, astral project, teleport (again), and so on. This WILL NOT HAPPEN with unstable, shaky, fragmented lucid dreams.


I have never really done an experiment on myself but I am looking to improve in my lucidity instead of just hoping "I will lucid dream tonight!" Feel free to follow my progress (yes, I say progress because it can only get better from here) and please feel free to offer me any helpful advise! Time for me to get serious "I know I can...I know I can...I know I can" :offtobed:

I can't wait to hear how your experiment goes! The more lucid dreaming that I do, the more convinced I am that the relationship between them is very strong and intertwined. I think there's lots of overlap between the relevant skills so I'm looking forward to hearing how you do!

Any chance that you can move higher than 6 hours of sleep for the night! I have a very hard time getting lots of lucid dreams if I don't get up above 7. (And I benefit from even more!) But I'm just asking, because I miss this mark all the time unfortunately! Life sometimes makes these decisions for me.

And your 2:05 pm dream / waking life interconnect was crazy! :boggle:

Love your plan, bemistaken! :)

One helpful tip I can give for those occasions when finding a quiet place/time to meditate is difficult is to block some of the noise with very relaxing background music/sounds. There are tracks you can listen to prior to purchasing to help decide which one would be the least distracting and at the same time you can use them to block other noises.

Apart from that, meditating when everybody is asleep sounds very tempting, so I am looking forward to seeing how that goes. I remember that even short pre bed dream yoga combined relaxation and focus exercises have coincided with lucidity in the morning, so there must be some benefits from all these exercises.

Wish you lots of awareness and inspiration! :)

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Any chance that you can move higher than 6 hours of sleep for the night! I have a very hard time getting lots of lucid dreams if I don't get up above 7. (And I benefit from even more!) But I'm just asking, because I miss this mark all the time unfortunately! Life sometimes makes these decisions for me.

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Hi CL! I'm going to try to get more than 6 hours of sleep...I can not remember the last time I slept that long on purpose (i.e., not sick or have exhaustion from traveling). I know adequate sleep is so vital when it comes to LDing...I am just going to have to practice setting a bedtime and sticking with it! :)

MEDITATION EXPERIMENT SESSION #1

DATE: 2/21/2015
MEDITATION START TIME: 4:15am
MEDITATION END TIME: 4:45am
MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
Being that this was my first day of my experiment, I was really restless. Went to bed late (1:00am...I know! Its my first day and I will get better!) as usual because I had a lot going on. I got up around 4am (ish) and went to the bathroom, got a drink a water, etc. Then I laid back down and tried to get comfortable and it took at least 5-6 mins for me to stop moving because everything seemed to bother me. I kept thinking, "Why on Earth is my face so itchy? Why does my arm hurt and why is this pillow hurting my neck"...sigh :disconcerted:.

RESULTS:
I did remember a very vivid dream regarding me helping a friend move. No matter how much stuff we tried to pack there would be twice as much stuff remaining. This should have been a dream sign for me. I woke up after this dream a little after 11:00am.

WHAT DID I LEARN/SELF EVALUATION/WHAT COULD BE DONE DIFFERENT: I believe I was just being extra sensitive to what I was doing. I have meditated before on several occasions but I guess before this experiment there was really 'no pressure' if you know what I mean. After awhile, I just had to chalk this meditation session up as a lost. I told myself the next time I meditate just do what I usually do...nothing. I am the only one putting pressure on myself and this does not go hand and hand with LDing. The purpose of meditation is for me to relax...and that means relax my mind, body, and spirit. There should absolutely be NO PRESSURE for anything to happen in meditation because if it is, there is no need to meditate!

Until the next time. :)

MEDITATION EXPERIEMENT SESSION #2

DATE: 2/22/2015
MEDITATION START TIME: 5:30pm
MEDITATION END TIME: 6:05pm
MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus (acknowledging my breath) I added a Mantra "I am aware."

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
Today was extremely better than yesterday. During the day I told myself I will not focus on meditation and that I will let it just 'happen' like I usually do. I laid down in my semi head elevated position with lights dimmed and closed my eyes and took in three deep breaths. With those deep breaths I repeated my mantra (inhale "I am" exhale "aware"). After those deep breaths I just breath normally. This session was much different because I immediately started to feel a tingling sensation. I ignored it and keep breathing. I started out meditating with my left hand on my abdomen feeling it go up and down with each breath. Within 5 minutes my breathing kinda slowed to nothing (???) I was still breathing but my abdomen was not moving anymore...like my breathing was so shallow (trying to explain) like I started out taking deep breaths but ended up only needed to take a few sniffs for breaths. Eyes still closed by now I started to feel my body float but I wasn't lucid or anything like that. I ignored all of this. I recall seeing people that I didn't know or thinking about things I wouldn't think about in waking life. I had a feeling that these were dreamlets, but I did not want to lose my relaxation by focusing on this so I let them pass and I would bring myself back to my breathing...which was damn near absent by now because I couldn't feel my arm on my abdomen anymore. Maybe somebody could help me here but I felt like I couldn't depend on my breaths to keep me focused anymore because I was barely breathing so I just continue to stay anchored with my mantra. I would lose the mantra because of the dreamlets and then I started to focus on my 'third eye' like I usually do in meditation. By doing this I started to get vibes but not intense and I knew if I kept focusing on my third eye I may have become lucid. The last symptom I remember was as I focused on my third eye I felt myself occasionally take one short breath :uhm:. I don't really know how to explain but I just remember taking one short shallow breath every now and then that would kinda wake me up out of my trance (just thought I would document this symptom). My alarm went off because I didn't want to go over 30 minutes as I have a tendency to fall asleep.

RESULTS:
I believe results from this session were good. I really could have gone longer but I was so relaxed I know I would have slipped into unconsciousness. If I did I wonder if I would have had a lucid dream?

WHAT DID I LEARN/SELF EVALUATION/WHAT COULD BE DONE DIFFERENT:
I believe I did a pretty good job. What I need to understand is that no matter what sensations I am feeling that I need to just let them pass. I tried to ignore some of them, but as you can see I slightly still focused on these sensations. One great thing to note about this experiment is the more practice I get I will learn to let these sensations just go and I won't spend so much time on them. I never really paid attention to what was happening so that may be why I am acknowledging them now.

Also, I do believe that this afternoon session of meditation was better than the wee hours of the night one. However; no one was home during this afternoon session...which is rare.

Until next time. :)

Sounds like a really productive session, bemistaken! Well done! :)

Your self evaluation is spot on, don't worry about any sensations that arise during meditation, just like you wouldn't during a wild. There is a great deal of overlap between these practices, and sometimes even more so with experienced practitioners or sensitive (in a positive way) individuals. With regards to that, I think you have a great deal of both awareness and experience (yes I do!) so it wouldn't surpise me if you find yourself wilding in one of your meditation sessions. Again, the key thing to remember is not to worry about these sensations including one's breath as the body knows best how to regulate these things and mind anxieties have no place in any part of the process.

One thing that always helps me during meditation sessions, wilding or simply falling asleep is to focus on the pleasant feeling of relaxation itself. That seems to solve a lot of problems and can even serve as an anchor.

Keep it up, bemistaken! It really puts a smile on my face to read your lovely posts! :)

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With regards to that, I think you have a great deal of both awareness and experience (yes I do!)

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Thank you NyxCC! I really appreciate the compliment...sometimes I feel so stupid when I am trying to get lucid or even during this mediation experiment. Even though I have gotten some experience at WILDing, I really believe that it just happens by itself. I still have so much to learn and my ultimate goal is to have some type of control. I am very unstable and shaky when lucid so I'm hoping the meditation will take care of this.:)

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One thing that always helps me during meditation sessions, wilding or simply falling asleep is to focus on the pleasant feeling of relaxation itself. That seems to solve a lot of problems and can even serve as an anchor.

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Great tip! I do like the way if feels when I am relaxing...I feel like a big pat of butter...melting and oozing all over the place :lol:.

Stay tuned because I am starting to go to sleep before 12:00am now (my first time in months if not years was last night, I went to bed at 11:15pm!). Since last night, I turned off the lights AND the TV and went to sleep! My family asked me if I was sick! I told them "No, just trying to catch up on some rest." They stared at me until I was out of their sight! They probably think I'm going crazy! :cackle: I'm hoping I'm going LUCID.

MEDITATION EXPERIMENT SESSION #3

DATE: 2/25/2015
MEDITATION START TIME: 6:00pm
MEDITATION END TIME: 6:30pm
MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus (acknowledging my breath). No Mantra.

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
Today I was really really tired, but I wanted to continue on with my meditation. Symptoms within 5 minutes included slight vibrations, floating feeling, and tingling. Only meditated for 30 minutes, but very peaceful as I enjoyed the relaxation.

RESULTS:
Going by just my experience, I believe that all of my sessions are good as I continue to learn what my body responds to. Enjoyed the feeling of just being. ;-)

WHAT DID I LEARN/SELF EVALUATION/WHAT COULD BE DONE DIFFERENT: Will continue doing the same.

Until next time.

MEDITATION EXPERIMENT SESSION #4 REESULTS: WILD & DEILD w/ CLARITY AND STABILITY!

DATE: 2/26/2015
MEDITATION START TIME: 4:00pm
MEDITATION END TIME: 'Came to' around 5:20pm
MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus (acknowledging my breath). No Mantra.

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
Tired again today but committed to my cause of this experiment. I got in a comfortable position and slowed down my breathing to focus on my breaths. I was more fidgety than normal because so many things kept happening and I had to stop meditating (UPS at the door, phone ringing, son coming home from the gym). Everytime I had to stop I continued back with my breathing. Once I got to my quiet place, I started slightly tingling and within minutes I started seeing the dreamlets.

RESULTS:
I was bobbing in and out of consciousness, but I continued to hold on even though I was extremely close to falling asleep. I seems like just when I couldn't hold on anymore I started to sound like I was talking in a tunnel (my spoken thoughts in my head sound like I was in a tunnel). I focused on my 'third eye' and I floated out :flyaway:! 'Finally, I'm WILDing,' I thought. My plan has been to control and stabilize and be able to see clearly. I was very excited at first and I went back in my body, but in a few seconds I was able to concentrate myself back out.

Something happened that has never happened before...I came out upside down :huh:! My feet (if I have feet) were pointing towards the ceiling and my head was downward pointing towards my physical body. I could even feel my physical body so I knew that I had to get away from it or I could be sucked back in. I rubbed my hands together and asked for light and my entire bedroom lit up more lighter than in waking life :clairity: I could finally see! I have been in the dark and/or void for weeks and this is the first time in a long time I had light. However, I was still upside down but do you think I was going to stop just because I was upside down...HELL NO! My upside down ass was floating all around my room and I was lovin' it! I saw my window and 'willed' my way to it to leave my room. I was able to continue floating upside down outside my window. When I did this the scene changed and all I remember was being on a motorcycle with a child going down a lovely country road. This scene turned into a nonacid dream, but I remember everything about this nonacid dream because it was extremely vivid and emotional.

WHAT DID I LEARN/SELF EVALUATION/WHAT COULD BE DONE DIFFERENT:
"Patience is a virtue. There are no failures. Don't stop."

I won't stop. One Love. :)

Way to go, bemistaken! This is really getting very exciting! :D

Congrats on the lds, the clarity and on not giving up despite being upside down!

By the way, do you meditate in a lying posture, i.e. in your bed?

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Hi NyxCC,
Thank you so much and all of the suggestions and tips have not been taken lightly. This is my first time really paying (ever so slightly) any attention to what I am doing in meditation. 99% of the time, I am in my bed laying down with my head slightly elevated with pillows with my right arm stretched out and my left arm on my abdomen. Lately, I have fore gone my left arm being on my abdomen to gauge my breaths because my breaths become so shallow and practically non-existent when I am really deep into meditation. I am always in my bed. I have tried sitting in the lotus position or even being in a recliner but this is way too uncomfortable for my back. I barely have any arch in my back (flat as a board) so it can be too painful at times to sit in a position for long periods.

I am a very light sleeper thanks to my insomnia, so going to sleep in my bed is usually the last thing I think about. I can only really meditate (or should I say WILD) when I am very very tired and I have not quite figured out why yet. It could be that with WILD you have to go to sleep and when I am ready for a nap I meditate first and then I know a WILD is right around the corner. But if I am not that tired and I meditate I usually don't WILD because I am not that sleepy.

Sorry to give you such a long explanation, but I find when I go into detail I can get some really great suggestions. Always grateful and always thankful for your comments NyxCC! :)

P.S. Any suggestion on how I can get myself to be right side up? I tried my best but at one point I was upside down going round and round like a ferris wheel when I tried to 'will' myself right side up. ;-)

Thanks for the explanations, bemistaken! :)

My normal meditation posture at the moment is at the sofa with stretched out legs. For me, this solves a number of problems such as aches in back and legs as well as helps maintain wakefulness, but is not the best posture if one would like to allow for wilds. With regards to that, I can relate to the benefits of your posture. I also agree that comfort should be a priority and one has to use the posture that they feel is best for them.

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I am a very light sleeper thanks to my insomnia, so going to sleep in my bed is usually the last thing I think about. I can only really meditate (or should I say WILD) when I am very very tired and I have not quite figured out why yet. It could be that with WILD you have to go to sleep and when I am ready for a nap I meditate first and then I know a WILD is right around the corner. But if I am not that tired and I meditate I usually don't WILD because I am not that sleepy.

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Whatever the reason, it seems that the odds are in your favor. Also, whatever you decide to do, whether it is simply meditation or letting go for a wild, you are always benefitting. How awesome is that! :)

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P.S. Any suggestion on how I can get myself to be right side up? I tried my best but at one point I was upside down going round and round like a ferris wheel when I tried to 'will' myself right side up.

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Sure, I've got an number of things you can try out and see which ones work best for you if the situation repeats:

1. Willing yourself right side up - you said this yourself. This is the simplest one and might work out. If not try something else.
2. Using whatever body parts are available - if you have tactile sensations and a normal dream body, just grab a nearby object and rotate yourself.
3. Create lines from anywhere in your dream body. You can create lines from your hands, eyes, or the center of your body and pull yourself in the desired direction. They can be lines that connect you to something, stretch into infinity or are ropes connected to nearby objects.
4. Change your perspective - I love this one! I remember reading a comment from the female astronaut Karen Nyberg about how she managed her sensations of discomfort from having to walk on a side surface (I'm not sure if this was outside the space station or inside, it would make more sense that she was peforming some external repair work).

In free space there is no gravity, so there is no ground, or ceilling or wall. Anything can be anything. And in dreams it works the same way! I remember it worked precisely like that with the "walk on the walls and ceiling" task. Once you switch perception, the ceiling becomes the floor and problem solved!

These are the ones I can think of right now, if I remember anything else will add it.

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Sure, I've got an number of things you can try out and see which ones work best for you if the situation repeats:

1. Willing yourself right side up - you said this yourself. This is the simplest one and might work out. If not try something else.
2. Using whatever body parts are available - if you have tactile sensations and a normal dream body, just grab a nearby object and rotate yourself.
3. Create lines from anywhere in your dream body. You can create lines from your hands, eyes, or the center of your body and pull yourself in the desired direction. They can be lines that connect you to something, stretch into infinity or are ropes connected to nearby objects.
4. Change your perspective - I love this one! I remember reading a comment from the female astronaut Karen Nyberg about how she managed her sensations of discomfort from having to walk on a side surface (I'm not sure if this was outside the space station or inside, it would make more sense that she was peforming some external repair work).

In free space there is no gravity, so there is no ground, or ceilling or wall. Anything can be anything. And in dreams it works the same way! I remember it worked precisely like that with the "walk on the walls and ceiling" task. Once you switch perception, the ceiling becomes the floor and problem solved!

These are the ones I can think of right now, if I remember anything else will add it.

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Love it! I will try these if it happens again! Thanks for taking the time to help me!

MEDITATION EXPERIMENT SESSION #5 REESULTS: MIRROR TOTM WILD SUCCESS!

DATE: 3/1/2015
MEDITATION START TIME: 12:30p
MEDITATION END TIME:2:30pm
MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus (acknowledging my breath).

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
Is is beginning to get a little easier to slip into a trance without paying attention to all the 'noises' and other interruptions. As soon as I got to my quiet zone I was seeing dreams. Before hand I had the TOTM of teleporting into a mirror and seeing what happens on the other side on my mind. I felt small vibes and was bobbing in and out of consciousness so I told my 'third eye' it was time.

RESULTS:
I laid there patiently waiting for the right body signal and I was able to be 'lifted' out. This time I was right side up (thank you GOD!) and I floated to the full length mirror in the living room. I have a difficult time with my aim and it took about two times to go through it because of under/over shooting the mirror. I told the mirror to please have anyplace other than my bedroom, house, front yard, etc. on the other side. Usually I can still be in or around my house or my dream will just all of a sudden end.

Before I went through the mirror I made sure to see how I looked and I was huge! Couldn't make out my face but I looked like a huge blob of me. Then the more I looked I started to shift change...on side was big and the other side was skinny and long. As I went through the mirror it was thick and 'suction' like. I made sure to keep my hands open to feel the mirror and it felt like pudding (or jello?). Anyway, I teleported to a creepy looking house (think Adam's family) and I walked around for a little while. The house had walls that you could see through because I could see other DC in the other rooms...mostly adults. Even the doors were see through. As soon as I tried to open my door it was locked and I couldn't get out. I wanted to try to do the other TOTM by going in someone's house and causing a stir, but the locked door freaked me out and as I continued to pull and jerk the locked door open I pulled and jerked myself awake...damn.

Anyway, I am really happy about this success because I believe I was able to go a little further than my bedroom...even if it was just through my full length livingroom mirror! :)

Yay, bemistaken! Congrats on the super awesome meditation plus lding session and completing the advanced task! :goodjob:

Fantastic job and the place where you found yourself sounded really interesting (even if a bit creepy). No worries should you find a locked door in another dream, even locked doors can be unlocked if one pulls them open. You can also try some telekinesis on them for fun. Remember you are always safe.

Anyways, congrats again on the awesome task execution. Keep it up! :)

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Fantastic job and the place where you found yourself sounded really interesting (even if a bit creepy). No worries should you find a locked door in another dream, even locked doors can be unlocked if one pulls them open. You can also try some telekinesis on them for fun. Remember you are always safe.

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I should have just went through the damn door if I would have been thinking straight! The locked door through me off and my mind played tricks on me after that. I was really excited so I know that I should have just stopped for a minutes to think logically and everything would have fallen into place. :)

MEDITATION EXPERIMENT SESSION # 6 & 7

DATE: 3/2/2015 & 3/3/2015
MEDITATION START TIME: After work around 7pm (ish)
MEDITATION END TIME: only did around 35-40 minutes
MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus (acknowledging my breath).

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
I have gone through a routine of focusing on my breath and it doesn't usually take very long for me to see short dreams. However, for the last couple of days I have been so strapped for time that by the time I do start seeing short dreams I have to stop because of some emergency (btw, none of them were emergencies).

RESULTS:
Let's just say the last couple of days I was able to find a quiet place for 35-40 minutes and just listen to myself breath...that's it. I have realized that the longer time I spend meditating the closer I am at easily becoming lucid but it does take me longer than 35-45 minutes. So this was something new that I really never paid attention to. Meditation session was not a loss at all because the experience and knowledge is priceless.

One Love. :)

MEDITATION EXPERIEMENT SESSION #8 RESULTS: SUCCESSFUL WILD & DEILDX2

DATE: 3/6/2015
MEDITATION START TIME: Before work around 9am (ish) right after a quick WBTB
MEDITATION END TIME: ??? (Bug spray man came beating on my door like he was the Police and I had to stay up with him and go outside and answer questions about the insects I have been seeing. I have no idea when he left so I have no idea when I actually finished this session)
MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus (acknowledging my breath).

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
I really don't even remember having any symptoms while meditating. I remember going to bed around a little after 2:0am (I know, I had a long day). I decided that I would wake up and do a proper WBTB. So, I got up around 8:30am and did the usual restroom, drink of water thing. My goal was to concentrate on something totally different with my goal of LD. I wanted to time travel. I had no intention of where I was going to go (future or past) but I know I have been having this as one of my goals and this is my year to complete it. I made a point to stay up for at least 30 minutes and around 9am I laid back down.

RESULTS
I swear all I remember is closing my eyes and the next thing I knew I was already out (no warning, no effort, no nothing). I was in the void and I still could see little in the void. Right in front of my face was a stuffed animal. I tried to change it into anything that I could 'ride' or 'fly' into a different time zone, but I ended back up in my body. I DEILD back out and I was flying in the grey zone. I kept saying in my head 'Go forward or back into time' but the weird thing that happened as I was flying to the right of me was some guy dancing in a marching band uniform :wtf:??? This threw me off and I lost focus and the dream fell apart. I was able to DEILD back out for the third time but I didn't have enough lucid energy to keep it together and it deteriorated.

What did I learn/what could be done different
I believe that I need to be prepared with a clear goal when LDing. I need to understand that my mind is the most powerful weapon I have when lucid and when my mind is not focus and clear...nothing will be.

IMPROVEMENT ON CLARITY AND EFFECTIVENESS?
My clarity and effectiveness is improving by leaps and bounds. Even though I have on occasion ended up in the grey/void, I find it so much easier to gain clarity. This may be contributed to the meditation. I have also found the mental strength of the lucidity is increasing. I can focus a little longer on something or I can have more strength in my 'will' to accomplish something. I will continue to note this small successes and continue on with breath focus meditation technique.

One Love. :)

OMG Lucy!
I just realized that I had my 50th LD on Dreamviews! Doesn't sound like much to some, but to me this is like saying I had a million! Congrats to me and Lucy!

:breakitdown: :loveyou:

Congrats on the lds and on reaching a milestone, bemistaken! :breakitdown:

It is really very exciting to follow your progress and see you improve everytime! Your practices have been quite an inspiration too. I wanted to restore the frequency of my meditation sessions, and I have to say reading about your sessions gives me an extra boost when I think of skipping a session. Also love all the positivity coming from your posts! :)

MEDITATION EXPERIEMENT SESSION #9
DATE: 3/7/2015
MEDITATION START TIME: 6:14p
MEDITATION END TIME: Maybe 30 minutes or fewer, got too frustrated because too many people were visiting today (Saturdays are suppose to be peaceful!)
MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus (acknowledging my breath).

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
It took me way to long to start feeling any symptoms due to so many people in the house. I got to frustrated and gave up. No need torturing myself.

RESULTS
First my results were that I was pissed off, but then I really couldn't blame my family...hey, it was a Saturday and I should have saved my meditation session for the wee hours of the night after my WBTB. So then I decided it was no need to get pissed off.

What did I learn?
Timing for meditation is just as important as it is for everything else when it comes to lucid dreaming.

Until the next time. :)

BTW Lucy, I WILL TIME TRAVEL so don't get comfortable with me!

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Go for it NyxCC!
I have never meditated like this before as for in frequency and quality, but it truly is making a world of difference for me. Even if it is just me finding a quiet place in my office for 15 minutes, I will count it as a session. After awhile, my body starts to crave that intimate moment that I have been sharing with myself and I feel a 'pulling' sensation throughout the day to go to a quiet place somewhere to 'just mentally decompress.' I am beginning to find this necessity truly a part of my everyday life like eating and drinking...my body or should I say mentality must have it to survive in this world. :)

Thank you for your kind comments.

I love reading your progress using mediation. I was meditating regularly last month, but I wasn't thinking of it as a way to WILD. A friend pointed out that WILD and meditation are basically the same thing so it sort of changed my way of thinking a bit. I have avoided meditating while laying down because I use it to beat insomnia from time to time. Of course, this isn't true meditation; forcing thoughts away without anything to focus on knocks me right out. I reserve the breathing meditations for when I am not trying to LD and I sit upright. Anyway, I'm rambling now, but this is the inspiration I've been needing to get back at it.

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Edit: And congrats on hitting #50!!!

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I love reading your progress using mediation. I was meditating regularly last month, but I wasn't thinking of it as a way to WILD. A friend pointed out that WILD and meditation are basically the same thing so it sort of changed my way of thinking a bit. I have avoided meditating while laying down because I use it to beat insomnia from time to time. Of course, this isn't true meditation; forcing thoughts away without anything to focus on knocks me right out. I reserve the breathing meditations for when I am not trying to LD and I sit upright. Anyway, I'm rambling now, but this is the inspiration I've been needing to get back at it.

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Wow...I am truly humbled that you have visited my workbook page Xanous! You are AWESOME and I am so not worthy :bowdown:. I have been stalking...cough cough, I mean following you the entire year I have been on DV. Your postings have helped me understand my mind and how to utilize some techniques focusing on mental control. Please don't be a stranger because I am just a beginner when it comes to meditation and I am only going on what I read here from the moderators, facilitators, and members on DV.

If there is ever any advise you can give me on improvement or any additional tips let me know...I'm all ears! Keep following my meditation experiment and I hope that maybe we can do an experiment together in the near future!

Again, I am humbled. ONE LOVE. :)

MEDITATION EXPERIEMENT SESSION #10
DATE: 3/9/2015
MEDITATION START TIME: 6:45pm
MEDITATION END TIME: 7:50pm
MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus (acknowledging my breath).

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
Emotionally and physically drained from losing just one hour from daylight savings time. I came home like a damn zombie. By the time I got to my spot for meditation I had to really work at relaxing. It may have taken me maybe 15-20 minutes to quiet down. My emotions played a huge part in relaxing so I told myself that the problems will still be there when I finish relaxing. I finally got to the tingling sensations with slight vibes, but they were extremely weak.

RESULTS
I found that when I let my body give in to relaxing, my body actually "loosen," like when you untie a knot. Loosening from the bottom of my feet working its way up to my hips, my abdomen, my chest and shoulders, my neck, and then to my head. By the time the tension left my head I felt like my entire body was floating and it felt wonderful! By now, I was almost 1 hour into meditation and my session was almost over.

What did I learn?
I never really thought about how much work it is for the human body to fight against everything going on in our head. It may not take much to get pissed off these days but it sure does take a lot for your body to recover from getting pissed off. I have learn that I don't want to work so hard undoing all the stupid stuff that may have happened to me at work when I only have a 30-45 minute meditation window. I lost a lot of time fighting with my emotions and trying to rebound from the tension. Using precious energy during meditation trying to pacify my body and expel the negative nonsense from work and/or home life.

I have learned that there is no way to make SENSE from NONSENSE and FREEDOM is FREE.

One Love. :)

Ahhh shucks :embarrassed: Thanks, but I'm not nearly at the level as some of the people on DV. I've actually felt like a total newbie lately with my LD length and clarity. It's cool that you find some of my ramblings useful though. :D. I'm not on here as much as I'd like to be, but NyxCC pointed me here so I gave it a look. I'm pretty novice as a meditater but maybe we can share experiences. I actually tried to do a episode with Wurlman on meditation but I don't think we're experienced enough to really talk about it in depth, so I'm scrapping that one — We may try again later.

I don't really have any advice for you, but I find meditation can be done throughout the day during various activities; I try to keep some mindfulness that way. Something I do to while I'm jogging is to meditate on my breathing as a sort of breathing meditation. I find that it helps me to keep a relaxed frame of mind and not worry so much about being tired or how much longer I have to go. I can get myself really worked up and my run becomes less enjoyable. This really makes it easier to run much farther. I don't know if you run or if anyone else does this, but it's just an example of active meditation. I find it's good practice regardless.

I was able to meditate on breathing at bedtime last night and got a good session in before bed, so that was the start of my trial. Also, I woke at 4am and tried to meditate on my 'third eye', but fell asleep pretty quickly. However, I was rewarded with a short DILD an hour an a half later so maybe meditation had something to do with it. I'll have to post that after we watch our show. The whole dream, especially the NLD part, was a CRAZY one!

Thanks again for the kind words. I'll keep in touch. It helps to have someone to talk to about this stuff. :D

OK so I wont litter your workbook with my exp, but I want to tell you I had a really cool meditation right at bed time. I almost lost consciousness twice, but pulled it back just before I went to deep. Also, I had some really cool, indescribable body sensations (like a shift in the brain) that I just couldn't get through due to excitement and heart rate. Also, during the night I kept a meditative DEILD mind-set and entered vibrations twice, but it only lasted but a few seconds — not that vibes are necessary but I experience it 99% of the time.

When you meditate and you get in the zone, do you notice how thoughts become random, meaningless background noise and not really anything too distracting? I always wonder how others experience it. It's usually like a TV on low volume in the other room. I can hear it, but it doesn't make any sense because I am not focused on it. I did, however, get some really beautiful thoughts that totally spoke to a situation of mine at the beginning.

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Within 5 minutes my breathing kinda slowed to nothing (???) I was still breathing but my abdomen was not moving anymore...like my breathing was so shallow (trying to explain) like I started out taking deep breaths but ended up only needed to take a few sniffs for breaths. Eyes still closed by now I started to feel my body float but I wasn't lucid or anything like that. I ignored all of this. I recall seeing people that I didn't know or thinking about things I wouldn't think about in waking life. I had a feeling that these were dreamlets, but I did not want to lose my relaxation by focusing on this so I let them pass and I would bring myself back to my breathing...which was damn near absent by now because I couldn't feel my arm on my abdomen anymore. Maybe somebody could help me here but I felt like I couldn't depend on my breaths to keep me focused anymore because I was barely breathing so I just continue to stay anchored with my mantra. I would lose the mantra because of the dreamlets and then I started to focus on my 'third eye' like I usually do in meditation. By doing this I started to get vibes but not intense and I knew if I kept focusing on my third eye

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Hi Xanous!
I appreciate you coming back to my "I Love Lucy" workbook :cheeky: I get vibrations 99% of the time also. When I didn't know what it was, I use to tell my husband that I would be waken out of my sleep by electrocution, but it never hurt. I didn't know what to call it until I joined Dreamviews. Thanks for keeping up with my experiment I really want to have another set of eyes watching this because I know this will help me learn...even if it is just how to quiet my mind.

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Yes! I start seeing things that I know I would never even think about in my right mind (i.e., like me watching someone getting on top of a horse or someone I don't know singing as they climb a latter up to a roof). Just a whole lot of nothing I wouldn't even bother thinking about in real life. Lots of strange things happen to me during a WILD. The only unusual thing that has me perplexed during my WILD is sometimes I will be lifted up by some type of tornado :tornado: wind force against my will and for some reason...I'm always going backwards. Yes, being picked up by some kind of suction or wind and I am always dragged backwards. You know how a mother lion will carry her baby cubs by the neck in her mouth? That was how it happened to me one time. I was picked up by my neck, lifted into the air and I couldn't turn around to see what it was. I was in my bedroom and the wind was so loud behind me! I couldn't understand how all that wind was blowing, but nothing in my bedroom was moving but me (i.e., curtains still as can be along with everything else). I normally freak out too much to go to wherever I am being taken and when I get scared...it always let's me go and I am back in my body. So far, this has been the strangest thing that has happened to me (twice). I promised myself the next time it happens...I'm going! :)

MEDITATION EXPERIEMENT

SESSION #11 DATE: 3/10/2015 MEDITATION START TIME: 7pm (ish) MEDITATION END TIME: 8:15 pm

SESSION #12 DATE: 3/12/2015 MEDITATION START TIME: 8pm MEDITATION END TIME: 8:55 pm

MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
I have been slightly (ok, majorly) stressed from work and I'm really not trying to make up excuses, I promise I'm not. However this stress is following me home. I believe I'm meditating far too late in the day. By the time I settle down for meditation and finish the session, it is almost time for bed. I have to try waking up in the middle of the night with my WBTB to try my meditation sessions to see if this will make a difference. Sensations are the same, but when I'm really stressed it takes a long time for me to relax. When I finally do settle down, I can feel some weak vibes and slight feeling of floating. I also will hear my thoughts get distant every now and then. And as always, random short dreamlets. For this week, never strong enough for me to lift out.

RESULTS
I can say no matter how bad I think I did with my meditation, I always feel sooooo much better when I am finished. It may take me a while to settle my mind, but when I come out of it I feel so good...like I can go on another day. So every session is truly a success. At one point today during meditation, I was mentally fighting with myself and I had to realize that thoughts will seep through AND LET THEM! Instead of letting myself get all tensed up I need to understand these random thoughts will go away and I can get back to relaxing. My job will still be there tomorrow.

What did I learn?
Tension is a B#TCH!

I will carry on! :)

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Wow. I wish that's all I thought when I didn't understand. I always assumed it was some sort of satanic attack. :rolleyes:

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The only unusual thing that has me perplexed during my WILD is sometimes I will be lifted up by some type of tornado wind force against my will and for some reason...I'm always going backwards. Yes, being picked up by some kind of suction or wind and I am always dragged backwards. You know how a mother lion will carry her baby cubs by the neck in her mouth? That was how it happened to me one time. I was picked up by my neck, lifted into the air and I couldn't turn around to see what it was. I was in my bedroom and the wind was so loud behind me! I couldn't understand how all that wind was blowing, but nothing in my bedroom was moving but me (i.e., curtains still as can be along with everything else). I normally freak out too much to go to wherever I am being taken and when I get scared...it always let's me go and I am back in my body. So far, this has been the strangest thing that has happened to me (twice). I promised myself the next time it happens...I'm going!

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I have had a plethora of weightless events happen to me including some sort of demons pestering me, but nothing like what you get. You just have to remain calm and remember it's all a dream. I know it's hard, but fear makes it worse. It seems we're very similar in a lot of this though.

Keep it up with the meditation! It will help in many ways.

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And that's what is so AWESOME to know! I am not alone :content:

Hi Lucy,

I had to go out of town for work and I couldn't meditate at all because I was sharing a room with two other people (packed in that damn room like sardines)! I just got back and I'm going to get right back to work tonight with our meditation experiment so don't you fret! Even when I'm out of town I just can't stop thinking about you! Believe me baby, I WILL make this up to you tonight :cheeky:!

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Hi Lucy,

I had to go out of town for work and I couldn't meditate at all because I was sharing a room with two other people (packed in that damn room like sardines)! I just got back and I'm going to get right back to work tonight with our meditation experiment so don't you fret! Even when I'm out of town I just can't stop thinking about you! Believe me baby, I WILL make this up to you tonight :cheeky:!

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Is this you talking to yourself or something. :whyme:

Also, I had a strange experience. I was on a jog in the woods and got into a meditative like state on the trail. Somehow I got the impression that the trees started speaking to me. They said, "We are here to serve you [humanity]." I got the feeling that we should be grateful for this and not abuse it. Super CRAZY I know, but it's really interesting some of the things that happen to me when I've been running for a while. It's like some sort of altered state that I find immensely interesting. Just thought I would share.

And... I haven't been doing my meditation much either. I've been super tired with my changes to my work schedule. I hope to normalize soon. I hope your session goes well tonight!

Hi Lucy, I'm back in town so my sleep/no sleep schedule is back on! Where did we leave off?

Oh yeah....

MEDITATION EXPERIEMENT

SESSION #13 DATE: 3/20/2015 MEDITATION START TIME: 6:51pm MEDITATION END TIME: 8:00 pm

MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
Been out of town on work related task so it really took some time for me to calm down. I was hearing so much stupid conversation in my head! It was crazy! Like I was talking to myself in third person...weird. Anyway, by the time I told myself to shut up I was finally feeling limp. I did not force anything on myself because I have not had the chance to meditate in a week. I was just so happy to be in my own bed...alone.

RESULTS
RELAXATION! I almost fell asleep.

What did I learn?
Since this experience, I have learn that when I am not able to meditate my life just doesn't seem to go right. All I was thinking on my trip was "I need to go somewhere to meditate...I should be meditating right now...I need to be left alone...Maybe if I stay in the bathroom a little longer I can get a few minutes of meditation in."

I have learn meditation is now a part of my life...and I love it. :)

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LOL! Uh....Yeah. I have no idea why I do this but it make my journaling 'real' if that makes sense. I feel like I am talking to a friend and I have named this person "Lucy" short for Lucidity. Sometimes I like to add something stupid like what I said about making it up to her tonight, really meaning that I hope I can just get lucid and stabilize. I know...corny.

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Also, I had a strange experience. I was on a jog in the woods and got into a meditative like state on the trail. Somehow I got the impression that the trees started speaking to me. They said, "We are here to serve you [humanity]." I got the feeling that we should be grateful for this and not abuse it. Super CRAZY I know, but it's really interesting some of the things that happen to me when I've been running for a while. It's like some sort of altered state that I find immensely interesting. Just thought I would share.

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Hey, I don't know if I told you but I run also! You do become one with nature. I live in the country so I see all kinds of animals. I was a city girl so when I moved to the country and took up jogging I was scared to death. You see all kinds of animals (foxes, raccoons, etc.). I thought I moved to Animal Planet or something!

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And... I haven't been doing my meditation much either. I've been super tired with my changes to my work schedule. I hope to normalize soon. I hope your session goes well tonight!

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Well, we are going to just have to motivate each other! I just posted my session. Let me know what you think. I got a lot more work to put into my meditation sessions. My schedule is finally calming down so I'm claiming lucy will spend time with me soon. ;-)

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I was hearing so much stupid conversation in my head! It was crazy! Like I was talking to myself in third person...weird. Anyway, by the time I told myself to shut up I was finally feeling limp.

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My thoughts can be pretty crazy like this but I like to relive a past experience or imagine a future one. It's all nonsense and it does seem to take a few minutes to settle down. Do you do any body relaxation tek or do you just let it happen on it's own?

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I've actually done this. LMAO.

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LOL! Uh....Yeah. I have no idea why I do this but it make my journaling 'real' if that makes sense. I feel like I am talking to a friend and I have named this person "Lucy" short for Lucidity. Sometimes I like to add something stupid like what I said about making it up to her tonight, really meaning that I hope I can just get lucid and stabilize. I know...corny.

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Ok gotcha! A lot of people do this sort of thing, I'm pretty sure.

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Hey, I don't know if I told you but I run also! You do become one with nature. I live in the country so I see all kinds of animals. I was a city girl so when I moved to the country and took up jogging I was scared to death. You see all kinds of animals (foxes, raccoons, etc.). I thought I moved to Animal Planet or something!

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Awesome! Running has become an addiction for me. Yeah, it's that "oneness" you feel when your out there. It's a very nice feeling. The wild animals don't bother me so much as long as they don't get too close. :D I'm totes jelly your in the country — that's what my wife and I are striving for!

BTW... I tried a WBTB meditation laying down. I crashed out pretty fast but it spawned a DILD. After I woke from that one I tried a quick meditation and the same thing happened with a 2nd DILD. I wish it could always be this easy!

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When I need to 'quiet the noise' in my head I will do a technique. I will do what Robert Bruce calls stimulating primary energy centers (i.e., stimulating the major Chakras). I will start the stimulation by focusing on the base chakra and work my way up to the crown chakra. By focusing on this instead of the conversation in my head, it really helps me get to that 'limp noodle' feeling quicker.

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BTW... I tried a WBTB meditation laying down. I crashed out pretty fast but it spawned a DILD. After I woke from that one I tried a quick meditation and the same thing happened with a 2nd DILD. I wish it could always be this easy!

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Cool! I wish this would happen to me more often. I tried my WBTB this morning and for some reason my husband kept asking me where his golf stuff was because he was going to play golf and couldn't find this or that...yeah, he got cussed out before he left! :lol:

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Wow. I really got to get a physical copy of his book and really study up on it. That energy stuff really does something. Whether its real or imagined, I don't know, but it's effective either way.

MEDITATION EXPERIEMENT

SESSION #14 DATE: 3/21/2015 MEDITATION START TIME: 4:55pm MEDITATION END TIME: 6:10pm

SESSION #15 DATE: 3/22/2015 MEDITATION START TIME: 5:45pm MEDITATION END TIME: ???

MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
For both days I have been so restless I truly have nothing to report. Coming back from a work related trip seems to have thrown something off and I can't seem to get into my 'mojo.'

RESULTS
Taking me way too long to relax...like I'm waiting for something to happen. I know, shouldn't do this :undecided:

What did I learn?
Still have a lot to learn. I only have eight day left to finish this experiment but I must say the few lucids I have had, have been an improvement in vividness and stability.

I will continue on! :)

Will update tonight Lucy, son has been sick with staph infection over last four days.

MEDITATION EXPERIEMENT

SESSION #16 DATE: 3/24/2015 MEDITATION START TIME: 6:05pm MEDITATION END TIME: 7:10pm

MEDITATION TECHNIQUE: Breath Focus

SYMPTOMS WHILE MEDITATING:
Very relaxing meditation session. Had a really rough day today (son has been ill) so I was looking forward to my alone time. My body immediately responded by falling so deep into relaxation...I feel asleep!

RESULTS
Deep unconscious nap.

What did I learn?
During this session believe it or not, I have learned that even though I may believe I did not have any symptoms during meditation because I went straight to sleep, this is not true. I was still really trying to pay attention to my body and I noticed that when I am really tired or sleep deprived my body goes into the symptoms of sleep either much quicker or (I know this is not the first time this has been stated) but now I am questioning if my body 'bypasses' certain sensations or I just did not noticed them. For instance, during this session I don't remember the feeling of floating, falling, getting really big or shrinking, etc. If I did notice a 'floating' feeling...I think I was probably already dreaming and sleep.

So now I am wondering (if this has anything to do with WILDing) when I am really tired and starting meditation, is there a way to still be able to 'catch' the signs of falling asleep...even you can barely keep your eyes open before your head hits the pillow (hope you can understanding what I am asking)???.

I do believe this experiment has made a great difference in my life. I have only 4 days left to experiment but I believe some really good information can be retrieved and utilized for the future in my lucid dreaming adventure.

One Love. :)

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ACK! Sorry to read this. My daughter had it a while back. No fun. I hope he's feeling better.

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During this session believe it or not, I have learned that even though I may believe I did not have any symptoms during meditation because I went straight to sleep, this is not true. I was still really trying to pay attention to my body and I noticed that when I am really tired or sleep deprived my body goes into the symptoms of sleep either much quicker or (I know this is not the first time this has been stated) but now I am questioning if my body 'bypasses' certain sensations or I just did not noticed them. For instance, during this session I don't remember the feeling of floating, falling, getting really big or shrinking, etc. If I did notice a 'floating' feeling...I think I was probably already dreaming and sleep.

So now I am wondering (if this has anything to do with WILDing) when I am really tired and starting meditation, is there a way to still be able to 'catch' the signs of falling asleep...even you can barely keep your eyes open before your head hits the pillow (hope you can understanding what I am asking)???.

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You know what? I have been trying to analyse this myself for several years and I really don't have a solid answer. When you have no memory of something it's hard to figure it out. I think we either just forget or we slip unconscious so fast that we don't experience any of it. It seems like WILDing or waking into SP is just staying in the halfway state. Keeping the mind conscious while the body goes to sleep is a real balancing act that, in my opinion, isn't always possible. It must take great mental discipline to master. Of course, things like stress, sleep deprivation (even mild), current (n)REM states ect. can really sabotage the whole thing. I wish I had the key to all of it but don't we all? The only good thing about being extra tired (for me) is that I can hit really vivid HI easy and have super early REM, but staying lucid is way more difficult. I was pretty tired last night but the RL got me up within an hour. I notice I was deep in some super vivid dream already. BTW I've got to work on my NLD recall :lol:

I hope to have some solid meditation time tonight. Good luck with the rest of the experiment! Are you going to stop in 4 days or just stop reporting on it?

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You know what? I have been trying to analyse this myself for several years and I really don't have a solid answer. When you have no memory of something it's hard to figure it out. I think we either just forget or we slip unconscious so fast that we don't experience any of it. It seems like WILDing or waking into SP is just staying in the halfway state. Keeping the mind conscious while the body goes to sleep is a real balancing act that, in my opinion, isn't always possible. It must take great mental discipline to master.

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Difficult to answer AND difficult to master! My goal is to try to come up with some type of analysis with this phenomena...I'm in it for the long run.

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I will absolutely continue on with this experiment. I probably will not be so in depth with my reporting, but I enjoyed every minute of it and I know there is more waiting for me if I continue on. I have not been one to really understand the world of LDing, but this website has allowed me to really grow in the ability since I joined a year ago. I really have a passion to understand how people do this, how people control what they are doing in an LD, how often it can be done, and what 'special' activities, abilities, and places can be developed. I don't have anyone to talk to in RL in order to gain understanding of LDing but I know there is a world of people who have the same passion as I do (if not more) when it comes to this. Meditation is going to be my direct link to the highway of awareness and consciousness and I hope to continue on for the entire year of 2015. My goal is to seek enlightenment and I'm not even a fraction of the way there...however I'm enjoying the ride. :content:

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My goal is to try to come up with some type of analysis with this phenomena...I'm in it for the long run.

Meditation is going to be my direct link to the highway of awareness and consciousness and I hope to continue on for the entire year of 2015. My goal is to seek enlightenment and I'm not even a fraction of the way there...however I'm enjoying the ride.

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Yes totally this! I'm glad you're in it for more than just lucid dreaming. I'm glad to have someone to learn this with and the more people I can talk to about it the better. :goodjob:

Meditation WILD
Looking for my dream buddy:

Just coming out of my meditative state...it was beautiful. Don't know if I got anything right, but this is what I saw.
1. flowers blooming outside in the dirt (red) coming up from the ground
2. Then the red flowers either died or went away and dirt (the earth) was uncovered to reveal a face of a buddha or Egyptian mask or just a plain mask or face???
3. I kept hearing music playing, like there was a band. Do you play in a band?
4. Light beam was around me
5. a light colored house. This all happened in the front yard of a light colored house.

I can't remember anything, but I called out for Xanous and I heard a voice, but the music was so loud. All of this happened during my meditative WILD. I did not see our target, but this is what happened when I asked to see the target...in that order.

Meditation Experiment from Feb. 21, 2015 - March 31, 2015

During this experiment, I took the time out to meditate at least 4 times a week (did not always happen like that) for at least 30 minutes each day. My goal was to see if I had a increase in vividness, stability, clarity, and control. Method used for this experiment was focusing on my breath.

MEDITATION MEDTHOD
Breath Focus-I started out using a mantra, then I did away with the mantra and just focused on my breath alone.

WHEN OR WHAT TIME DID YOU MEDITATE?
Most meditation session were during the evening usually 1-2 hours after returning home from work (between 6pm-8pm).

STATS:
These are the following stats for the experiment from Feb. 21, 2015 - March 31, 2015:

• I had 16 meditation sessions
• Of those 16 sessions, I had 3 WILDS & 3 DEILDS.
• The WILDS/DEILDS lasted from a couple of seconds to several seconds, but I don't believe any of them lasted longer than 40-60 seconds.
• Out of the the 3 WILDS & 3 DEILDS one of them I was able to achieve the TOTM Advanced (March Mirror Task).

MEDITATION BENEFITS FOR DREAMING:
I would say that my vividness, stability, clarity, and control increased tremendously! I had been in darkness for many weeks during my dreams (whether WILD, DEILD, or anything else) but through meditation, I was able to be in the light and/or surrounded by light. I was able to also have more control and be able to stabilize the dream without feeling rushed or frustrated.

MEDITATION BENEFITS IN WAKING LIFE:
During waking life I was more at peace with my work and home life. I paid more attention to the natural elements around me (wind, rain, sunlight, etc.) and felt an inner peace because of this. Don't get me wrong some days were better than others, but I knew that when I got home I would be able to meditate and become connected with my inner self which always made me feel better.

CONCLUSIONS:
I somehow feel I have even more questions than answers. I feel that the only conclusion that I can make at this time is that I feel meditation is a benefit. How much of a benefit...well, I believe that I did not have enough time in this experiment to tell. I feel like this experiment should continue and be on-going...so that is what I am going to do. I will continue this experiment for right now until Summer 2015 (July). I will only make post that meditation was completed that day and anything else that may be of importance. I believe the time I spent meditating for this experiment does not do enough justice to the art of meditation for me to say if it worked or not. Personally, I do feel that it was a great benefit for my lucid dreaming. In the mean time I will experiment with different methods of meditation and try to determine which method works best for me.

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Meditation WILD
Looking for my dream buddy:

Just coming out of my meditative state...it was beautiful. Don't know if I got anything right, but this is what I saw.
1. flowers blooming outside in the dirt (red) coming up from the ground
2. Then the red flowers either died or went away and dirt (the earth) was uncovered to reveal a face of a buddha or Egyptian mask or just a plain mask or face???
3. I kept hearing music playing, like there was a band. Do you play in a band?
4. Light beam was around me
5. a light colored house. This all happened in the front yard of a light colored house.

I can't remember anything, but I called out for Xanous and I heard a voice, but the music was so loud. All of this happened during my meditative WILD. I did not see our target, but this is what happened when I asked to see the target...in that order.

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That sounds like an amazing experience bemistaken! Very nice! :)

About your meditation experiment, it was great to follow your updates during this month. Your insights were amazing and your practice very inspiring. I also like a lot what you have written about paying more attention to the natural elements after your meditation experiment has started. It's really pleasant to just observe and even merge with such things so I can relate to your feelings. I have to say that after many dreams, I have a similar urge to pay more attention to the environment, not just doing ADA practice but just for the sake noticing those lovely little things like the raindrops on your window.

Looking forward to reading how this goes in the long term. Wish you peaceful sessions and many awesome lds to follow. :)

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There is more great things to come, I'm going to continue this experiment until I can understand what my body is at peace with in order for my mentality to be relax and pick up on the signals of lucid dreaming. :)

Back to the basics. Just finished a meditation session and boy did I need it. Started at 7:18pm and ended at 8:48pm. I have no idea what happened to the time. I felt such peace and silence and it was exactly what my body and mentality needed. I am taken my WBTB serious, so I am going to make sure to wake up in the middle of the night and continue focusing on peace and my body sensations. Hopefully, this will do the trick to get me out of my slump.

Cool! I like it when I see folks making themselves feel better without medicating. It gives me hope. Good stuff! Good luck with the WBTB. I really need to try myself maybe my legs will let me sleep well the first half.

Well Lucy, I am actually having some success (even though it is small). I remembered a dream! I know, I know, how important can that be? Very! I have been in a rut so I'm counting this dream as a success that I'm on the right track.

Dream:
I was in like a dance hall, but the dance hall was full of spirits/ghosts. The spirits didn't like what the new owners were doing to their place so they would cause all these problems and scare away customers. One man (light skin, light eyes, light hair...sounds familiar?) was the one who came up with an idea to make it a recreational center for kids. The spirits were pleased and satisfied with what was now going on in the building so they left. The End. :lol:

I'm so proud of myself because my lucid is right around the corner! Until tonight my love.:)

So I'm at my doctor's office for my check up and begging for a refill on my insomnia medication and she ask me if my sleeping habits have improved since the last time. I have never told my doctor that I have experience with lucid dreaming and OBE's, so just to see what the medical field says about LDing & OBE's I start to pick her brain.

Me: "Well, since I was a young, and I never have told a doctor this before, but I have the tendency to be waken up by the feeling of vibrations...kinda like I'm getting electrocuted but it doesn't hurt. Sometimes I can't move and then before I know it...I'm out."

Her: (staring me blankly in the face with a slight pause)...then she says to my surprise, "Are you floating?"

Me: "Yes, I can even go high into the sky...like to outer space if I try. I have even gone through walls."

Her: (still staring me blankly in the face without even blinking) silence...then, "Do you see visions or spirits?"

Me: "I have in the past. I don't see anything scary and now I'm never afraid. I use to be when I was younger, but now I'm not because I'm use to it"

Her: (still staring...then she takes her glasses off and puts down the iPad she was taking notes on and goes out of 'Doctor' mode) "Do you believe in GOD?"

Me: "Yes, I do. I'm just trying to see what the medical field says about this phenomena. Is this normal?"

Her: "No, it is not normal. Normally people that has these symptoms are near death. I only know what you are talking about because patients have stated things like this when they were near death. According to the research it's called a near death experience. Have you heard of this?"

Me: "Yes, but I'm not near death...I'm just sleep."

Her: "I believe that if you can come out of your body and you ARE NOT near death, and you can see visions then you are spiritually gifted."

Me: "Do you believe me? It's not the medication because when I take the medication, I don't remember a thing the next morning."

Her: "Yes I do. It's a supernatural phenomena that medical science is just beginning to understand."

Then she puts her glasses back on and gets her iPad and goes back to 'Doctor' mode and says she is increasing my dosage on my sleeping medicine and tells me not to drink so much caffeine and try to make a habit out of going to bed at a decent time. She says to me, "Do you have any other concerns or questions?"

Me: "No."

She walks me to the door and tells me she is going to call in my prescription now and then says to me before we walk out the door staring me blankly in the face and talking very low as if she doesn't want anyone to hear her, "If you believe in GOD, go to your pastor and have them pray for you so no evil spirits can harm you when this is happening."

Me: "Okay."

She opens the door all the way and we walk out and she says (loudly), "Have a great day."

I'm in total shock :shock:. I never thought that a doctor would even admit that this is possible let alone talk about evil spirits and the supernatural...however I do live in the south (Bible Belt) ;-).

I don't know if this matters but my Doctor is a young female practitioner...probably mid 30's and background is family practice.

Wow, I read this report with great interest, wondering what your doctor is going to say. Initially, I thought it would be funny to test what they know on the subject but now I am shocked. Imagine all the poor souls in the world that experience something like this and get similar feedback. It also makes me wonder if she increased your medication due to your insomnia or her concerns about those "supernatural" things happening. :shakehead2:

I'm so grateful places like DV exist so we can dispell some of the myths.

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Wow, I read this report with great interest, wondering what your doctor is going to say. Initially, I thought it would be funny to test what they know on the subject but now I am shocked. Imagine all the poor souls in the world that experience something like this and get similar feedback. It also makes me wonder if she increased your medication due to your insomnia or her concerns about those other supernatural things happening. :shakehead2:

I'm so grateful places like DV exist so we can dispell some of the myths.

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That is why I posted it NyxCC! I wanted to see if Medical Doctors are aware that this can happen to people who are not near death and what would they do if a patient is talking about these types of symptoms. I was shocked because she was asking me about the symptoms...almost like she knew exactly what I was talking about (like it happens to her). I don't think she up my dosage because of what I was saying. I had previously set the appointment because the medication she has me on is not working and I told her that sometimes I have to take two pills instead of one. She told me I am too small (weight wise) to be taking two pills and she said if up the dosage that would take care of taking only one pill at a time.

NyxCC, I told bemistaken how I felt about this in a PM, but I will say here that while I am glad she's aware of it, believes its legit, and didn't think bemistaken was crazy, I was hoping she was going to be much less superstitious and more scientific about it. Where's LaBerge when you need him? Evil spirits... :roll:

^^ Yep, I agree with you.

Saddest Dream Ever.

Earthquake in Vatican city. I felt the strongest vibrations and then I saw an earthquake in Vatican City. I was in the Sistine Chapel as I looked up at the beautiful artwork of Michelangelo crumble to the floor. Forever lost and turning into dust, I cried out to Jesus and wept for the great loss of one of the most greatest accomplishments of irreplaceable art :cry:.

DILD
I just remember waking up to do a proper WBTB (which I never do). I always wake up in the middle of the night for a bathroom break, but usually I just stumble back to bed. Well this time I made a point to walk around a bit so I could wake up. Then after about five minutes I got back in the bed and meditated. This never happens either because I fall asleep to quickly. I made a point to force myself to stay awake saying my mantra until I just couldn't do it anymore. At some point in one of my dreams I remember becoming lucid! I was in a neighborhood and I just said (out of the blue) "I'm flying! I'm dreaming!"

The sky was as clear as day and I was flying so smoothly...like a Eagle. Normally when I fly I'm a drunk Superman but this time I had control and I was actually able to fly and see the landscapes. I flew so long I even began to see the seasons change! First the sun was shining bright and it was in the heat of Summer, then I felt the coolest of Autumn on my face. Then I saw frost on the trees below and I looked up high into the sky and it was snowing as the chill of old man Winter came across my face...Wow :-P. Everything was so clear. I didn't know doing a proper WBTB could do all that?! Maybe it was just me getting lucky and setting intent, but I totally forgot about my goals and task but the payoff of just 'being in the moment' was priceless :content:.

Awww, congrats on the ld, bemistaken! Such a wonderful dream too! Put a smile on my face just from reading it. :)

Wbtb really is magical!

Had several vivid dreams from last night...

#1
A beautiful wedding scene where everyone was dressed in white. It was so white! It was like everyone was getting married at once. I could not tell whose wedding it was because every time I focused on someone they were doing things that the bride would do (i.e., dancing, eating cake, kissing and hugging). It was not only women, but men were also doing this. I started feeling so happy I started dancing right along with them! I didn't want it to end. :content:

#2
I really don't know how to start this dream after talking about the one above but here goes nothing...

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I was invisibly f@cked. Yes, I know it sounds crazy but it's true. I felt myself being pulled to the bed and my clothes were removed and I was...err uh...yeah f@cked. It was so pornographic I can't even get into details here in the spoiler. I woke up feeling like I was raped and I need to report it...but to who?I even felt EVERYTHING but there was no one there. I was being tossed around like a rag doll but I was the only thing I would see (like watching myself in a porno film getting f@cked by air :disconcerted: I don't mean to be anymore graphic than what I already am but I want to make sure you have an uncomfortable visual like I do. There was not one orifice on my body that didn't get violated. Are you ready for this...I woke up coughing, spitting, and choking. There, I'm just going to leave it at that :wtf2:

Can someone direct me to a lucid rape counselor? :?

:( That sounds terrible.

Wat's up Lucy! Boy have I missed you! Where have you been? Me...Oh, I've been with someone else named 'Reality' and boy do they suck! The entire time I was with 'Reality' I was secretly wishing I was hookin' up with you! :cheeky:

Anyway...I had a lucid that was so short and stagnant it was ridiculous. However, it is worth mentioning and I don't want to make the lucid gods angry because the dry spell I was having was EPIC! I am thankful no matter how short and stagnant it was. I was sleeping and had set intent not really stressing about it because I took a sleeping pill. My subconscious somehow broke through the sleep induced stupor I was in and I realized I was floating towards my ceiling fan. I recall trying to move away from the fan like a floppy rag doll and then I woke up. I was just so happy to be lucid that I recall going back to sleep with a smile on my face.

All I can say is Lucy, you are my Reality! ;-)

Lucy, you are amazing! As soon as I hook back up with you, you reward me with one DILD and two DEILDS last night! :) Breaking a dry spell really does a lot for your confidence. I recall getting lucid in a dream and I was trying my best to make the dream scene change to something me and my dream buddy are working on. Let's just say it changed to everything but that. I woke up. Trying to DEILD my way back out and trying not to pay attention to the vibes (I felt like I was being torn in half!) I came out into the blackness. I tried to visualize my target but the vision started to fall apart and I was back in my body. DEILD my way back out once more and tried to focus on my personal target (a book I'm trying to 'jump' into) and I saw the book outline began to form but by now I was so mentally drained I couldn't get it to stick. I slipped into a non lucid dream. Boy am I rusty! I've got to practice on focusing on control and stabilization from the beginning, middle, and end of lucidity.

Anyway...Lucy, you are the best. :)

Well Lucy,
You have me on a roll (semi)! I woke up to vibrations 4 times last night! I just couldn't get lift off :armflap: I tried all kinds of exit methods (which I usually don't have to do because either I'm already out or I just float out). I barely could remember any exit methods because I just not use to doing them. The only one I could remember is to roll out but my mind kept playing with me and I believed if I rolled out I would roll out onto the floor and it would hurt my bad shoulder...sigh. The vibes would come and go and I contemplated this 4 damn times! What the hell was I thinking?!

Anyway...I realized I should have paid no attention to the vibes in the first place and eventually, I would have either floated out or I would have realized I was already out. Well Lucy I will chalk this up as a learning experience.

Always grateful and always humble. :)

Alright! Now you are back in action! I'm so excited to see what you do next. :goodjob2:

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Ikr?! It seems like when I took the pressure off and stop being depressed about the dry spell Lucy came back with a vengeance. What I really realized is that I have not been writing in my workbook (in other words, Lucy is a very jealous b!tch)!. I have to spend time with her or she will get pissed off at me :chuckle:.

Hi Lucy, I'm back on the meditation grind. Meditated today for 45 minutes before slipping into a coma. Since it is the summer I will continue to add more frequent meditation sessions to my mental practice. I always have good results when I incorporate meditation so it's time to get it on!

See you in lucid city :meditate:.

Hey Lucy, nothing special to report...well I guess I do have something special because I am still meditating (that's good right?). I am really trying to maintain peace and tranquility and the meditation helps. I was reading :sageous: posts and he said that you should not try to make something happen when WILDing. Many times when I am trying to WILD I find myself focusing way too much on dreamlets, noise, feelings, etc. I am wasting energy and time focusing on these things and I have no idea why I do it. Even when I give myself the pep talk before meditation, I still find myself thinking, "Oh, there's the first dreamlet, it's happening!" Sigh, Sigh, Sigh! Something will happen on its own and he said we should just let it happen by itself. Let it happen because it has no choice but to happen. The body will fall asleep if you let it...just stay aware. Doesn't that sound simple? This is truly the Master Key to WiLDing. This was just one of the best things that I have read on DV. I know I should have known this already but sometimes you really need to hear the simple stuff to refresh your lucid mentality ;-).

"Fall asleep and stay aware" or "Let it happen"

Either one sounds like a good Mantra to me. :lol:

Ah the famous Sageous! Stick with his advice and you can't go wrong. I need to refresh myself with his course soon. I'm glad you keep up with meditation! You're a beast!

I was going to PM you, but I've really nothing to report. I'm making puny attempts to meditate at bed time (The only peace and quiet I get) but I keep passing out into a coma. At least the RLS has calmed down for now. I've skipped way ahead in Astral Dynamics and moved to more interesting exercises because I was getting way too bored. I'm about about to try the energy ball/circuit stuff here in a few minutes. Hope I don't fall a sleep, but maybe it will trigger a DILD if I do. I just need to work on that pesky poor recall I've been having. My extra early work hours are kicking my butt. :cheeky:

Hi Lucy, I had the most beautiful dream yet last night! I have been trying to see my aura for some time now and somehow this desire made its way into my dream. I was rubbing my hands together (probably trying to stabilize) and then I started rubbing my two pointer fingers together trying to see any color/shadow. Then between my two pointer fingers a small ball of light formed. The small ball of light was so bright it had no specific color at first because the light was blinding and I couldn't look directly at it. Then the ball of light dimmed a little and changed from a bright yellow to a fluorescent green. Then I began to see patterns circling and swirling in front of me with words forming almost like a crossword puzzle. In crossword puzzle format, I saw the words (She) Serve GOD with Enthusiasm (in this color).

Then the patterns began to swirl again changing from one color to another. As they changed from one color to another words zoomed in and out like a crossword puzzle and shapes continued to form like geometry patterns. My eyes didn't know what to focus on first :boggle:. Then the geometry patterns turned red and started to pulsate like a heartbeat (thump thump, thump thump, thump thump). Words started to form again but I can't remember what they said. As the patterns pulsated like a heartbeat the patterns and words turned red the heart beat got stronger and stronger. I felt the heart palpations in my physical body and woke up. I have a feeling that I was about to find out what type of heart I had but I got too excited and wrapped up in the moment. I couldn't help it...it was such a beautiful moment.

Wow. Best. Dream. Ever. :)

Fantastic dream! :)

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Thanks NyxCC! Yes it was...one I will never forget.

Hey Lucy! Just getting back from a wonderful vacation on the beach! I didn't know you like the beach also! Why didn't you tell me you were going to come visit me on vacation???

Anyways...I got lucid for a split second (more like an OBE I believe). I was lucid in a room with my nephews joking around and they were just laughing and cutting up. It was three of them. I was confused because we rented a house for the vacation and I thought I was in someone's hotel room and woke up. I told one of my nephews about it the next day and he told me they were in a bedroom (all three of them) laughing at the one who got really drunk and they had to put him to bed like a baby! I was like, "Wow! I thought I was in someone else's hotel room!"

Lucy, when you show up...you show out! :chuckle:

Congratulations on the OBEish lucid, bemistaken! :happy: (And on what sounds like a great vacation!)

How cool that you had that neat sync-up with your nephews' waking life experiences! Keep up the great work! Lucy has certainly followed you back home from vacation, and I'm looking forward to hearing about your next adventures. :)

I DID IT! YES! THANK YOU GOD! I was able to do something that I have been wanting to do forever. I went through a painting! I have been practicing doing well timed wbtb sessions for the last week. I recall meditating during my wbtb and after a few minutes I was able to get lucid. I have my wbtb session narrowed down to only 10 minutes because any longer than that I will not be able to go back to sleep. I was determined to do something important because I have been in an epic dry spell. What a way to break a dry spell!

"The Old Streets of Italy"

I was going to go through a beautiful painting that I have hung in my bedroom. I brought this painting years ago and it displays the lovely streets of old Italy. I was meditating on the couch in the den and I was two rooms away from my bedroom. I became lucid and got excited and found myself back in my body. I was able to DEILD myself back out and I told myself to please try and fly straight to my bedroom because it has been awhile. It took me a couple of times but I made it to my bedroom. I saw the painting on the wall and aimed straight for the center. Instead of going through the painting I slammed into it. I tried again...same thing...slammed straight into it. Took a step (or floated) back and rubbed my hands together because the dream was beginning to deteriorate. I thought to myself I only have one more chance and I really focused on where I wanted to enter the painting and this time I went through the painting! However, this is the tricky part about it. I did not end up on the old streets of Italy. I ended up in some UPS type of warehouse with boxes everywhere. When I went through the painting it was like I 'fell' into the warehouse on the other side.

I decided that I didn't want to be in that spooky dark warehouse and did a superman pose and shot straight up into the air and pass a beautiful full moon. After I flew past the moon I ended up in a room where me and my sister use to sleep when we were young and she was talking in her sleep. She had said something about Pennsylvania Ave. and then I woke up.

Always humble and always thankful. One Love.

Congrats on the ld and cool task completion bemistaken! :)

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Thanks NyxCC, its been a long time coming!

Bemistaken!! Congratulations on this fantastic lucid dream! :happy:

I love that you made your way through the painting and then in spite of the dream surprising you by not taking you to Italy, you got to do something even cooler... fly past the moon! :superman:

Great job using your willpower to keep trying with the painting until things worked! You didn't get discouraged and wound up getting great results. Congratulations! :goodjob2:

Hey Lucy! Not much to report here...it seems like July would never end! I'm glad to see a new month because a new month means a new start! I'm going to really push myself to the limit this month and see what I can accomplish. I want to do something that I have not been able to do! I know I can do it, I just have to be disciplined and stop being so lazy. I'll let you know how it goes and wish me LUCIDITY! :meditate:

Hey Lucy! Thanks for giving me a visit last night and boy was it awesome! I woke up floating above my body in my bedroom. I looked down and saw my husband asleep and for some reason, I had the thought that I didn't want to wake him being out of body :lol:. So I slowly floated above his body aiming for the bedroom door. Then all of a sudden a gust of wind (or force???) threw me back in my body and I DEILD my way back out. This wind or force continued to throw me up high into the sky and then throw me back down. And I mean way down...I began to see like layers of the Earth going down. The speed of being thrown up and down made my stomach feel like it was going into my throat and then down to my feet. I kept getting scared and ended up back in my body about three more time but I was still able to DEILD my way back out. This seemed to continue on forever until I got a hold of my lucid self and directed my attention on something else.

So I decided since I couldn't do much without agitating the wind/force I would practice summoning and teleportation. I didn't know what to summon so I though a cross would be really good about now. I held out my hand (if I had one) and concentrated on the cross appearing...it DIDN'T. I then tried teleporting to somewhere Ancient so I concentrated on a place with old temples and turned around hoping to be there...I WASN'T. By now I was so mentally exhausted I glided back over my husband with my heart still racing and went back in my body.

I stayed up for awhile trying to understand what that wind/force thing was. It is not really scary...well, the only thing scary about it is I don't see anything but the strength of whatever it is blows my mind! Even thought I never see anything, it sounds like a freight train! This has happened several times before but I have never been able to understand what it was and why does this always happen. When it does happen, I have no control over where I'm going (being pulled) and I'm literally being dragged to some place but I always get scared and fight my way back to my body. If anyone understands this phenomena please feel free to enlighten me. Anyway Lucy, always humble and always grateful. :)

Congrats on the ld, bemistaken! Your lds are so full of a sort of a mystical power - I love reading them. :) Sorry this wind force was making you uncomfortable at times. Apart from that, I think it's a really cool event and definitely exploring more. Try to slow down next time to see if the experience will have a different feel to it. The falling through Earth layers part sounded quite interesting by the way.

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I do this every so often as well. The thought that I might be seen as a transparent figure or who-knows-what by my sleeping bf gets to me and I try to move away from the bed as fast as possible. In one dream, I actually ran into him in the dream corridor and startled him. After waking up checked back with the real person who was up right at that time - he said he didn't see me. :P

Hi NyxCC! It is always good to hear from you and I always appreciate you reading my workbook. You have given me great support and motivation!

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I do this every so often as well. The thought that I might be seen as a transparent figure or who-knows-what by my sleeping bf gets to me and I try to move away from the bed as fast as possible. In one dream, I actually ran into him in the dream corridor and startled him. After waking up checked back with the real person who was up right at that time - he said he didn't see me.

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Ha ha! you too! That is so funny! I don't think this has happened before because I usually can't LD sleeping next to someone (most of my LDs always happen when I am alone in the bed). I really was thinking I was going to wake him up and he was going to be mad at me because he had to go to work early...so funny what the mind can do to you!

Again, thanks for your support! :)

Thank you too! :hug:

Wow, bemistaken, congratulations on the lucid! Sounds like a great experience, very powerful!

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I stayed up for awhile trying to understand what that wind/force thing was. It is not really scary...well, the only thing scary about it is I don't see anything but the strength of whatever it is blows my mind! Even thought I never see anything, it sounds like a freight train! This has happened several times before but I have never been able to understand what it was and why does this always happen. When it does happen, I have no control over where I'm going (being pulled) and I'm literally being dragged to some place but I always get scared and fight my way back to my body. If anyone understands this phenomena please feel free to enlighten me. Anyway Lucy, always humble and always grateful.

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This part is really interesting! At first blush it sounds like an extraordinarily powerful dream transition, which I experience on very rare occasions.

My take is that these experiences, where you go, what you encounter, will all tend to be a reflection of your state of mind. If you can, try to project love, curiosity, and joy. Let the fear fall away.

All of the energy in the dream begins and ends with you, so you are the source and the master of everything you see! :content:

As crazy as some of the things we see in dreams might be, we're always perfectly safe! It can be hard to remember in the moment, but inch by inch (and with practice), I believe we can internalize that truth.

As always, your success (and your great relationship with Lucy) makes me smile! :) I'm looking forward to your next lucid dream!

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My take is that these experiences, where you go, what you encounter, will all tend to be a reflection of your state of mind. If you can, try to project love, curiosity, and joy. Let the fear fall away.

All of the energy in the dream begins and ends with you, so you are the source and the master of everything you see!

As crazy as some of the things we see in dreams might be, we're always perfectly safe! It can be hard to remember in the moment, but inch by inch (and with practice), I believe we can internalize that truth.

As always, your success (and your great relationship with Lucy) makes me smile! I'm looking forward to your next lucid dream!

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Thanks CanisLucidus! That makes me feel a lot better! :hug:

Welp Lucy, thought I would go 'old school' and start going back to documenting my WBTB sessions...it couldn't hurt :goodidea:.

Date: August 17, 2015
Method: MILD, WBTB
Sleeptime: 3:00am
WBTB: 9:00am, stayed up for 15 minutes, Mantra (I am Lucid)
Results: Continued to lose consciousness and fall into several nonlucids.

Don't think I got enough sleep because usually I have to get at least 7-8 hours of sleep to see any results. So let's see if sleeping longer and paying attention to my WBTB session length will help.

Night, Night :offtobed:

Date: August 18, 2015
Method: MILD, WBTB
Sleeptime: 4:00am
WBTB: 11:00am, stayed up for 15-20 minutes, Mantra (I am Lucid)
Results: Had a slight problem going back to sleep and when I did, it was very fragmented. I kept waking up...I believe I continued to do this because I had some errands to run and I didn't want to be late. I don't even remember having any dreams. So it really wasn't a good morning to try to WILD.

My schedule is clear tomorrow and I will try it again and see what happens. :)

Date: August 27, 2015
Method: MILD, WBTB
Sleeptime: 12:00am
WBTB: 5:45am stayed up around 10 minutes
Results: DILD (twice)

Became lucid in the middle of a dream. I remember telling my DC that this is a dream and he did not believe me. I told the DC, "Go ahead and try to levitate." He just looked at me and walked backwards. I was still lucid thinking I can control this fool and maybe I can show him how to levitate! Then I said, "No like this" and I levitated. I looked up for the DC and but he was gone.

In my second dream I became lucid and recall saying to myself that I was in the same dream again but my surroundings fell apart before I could stabilize it. When I woke up I was extremely pleased with myself!

You're the best Lucy. :)

Two DILDs! Well done bemistaken! :)

Date: October 6, 2015
Method: MILD, WBTB (Took Galantamine for the first time)
Sleeptime: 11:00ish
WBTB: 6:00am stayed up around 10 minutes
Results: DILD (twice)

TOTM Attempt
Wow, that was fast! Don't know if this count (didn't see my body) but here goes...
Got lucid last night and found myself floating above my bed facing the ceiling and I 'flipped' over to lay down next to my sleeping body but I didn't see it. I did see my husband on his side of the bed and my side of the bed was empty (but really messy, like the sheets and pillow was out of order???). Anyway, I attempted to squeeze in the middle of where I was 'suppose' to be and next to my husband. It worked for a hot second and then I somehow got sucked back into my body that I couldn't see and I woke up. But this was still so cool to attempt! :content:

Later on that night I realized I was lucid again when I felt some really strong vibes. Had plans to call on my dream buddy Xanous since I was taking Galantamine for the first time. I called on Xanous and he appeared (a little blurry, but I knew it was him) with two of his children. He was holding the hands of a little girl and a little boy. He was smiling that gorgeous Xanous smile and talking at the same time, but I couldn't remember was he said (damn it!). This was the first time that I was sure that my dream buddy actually appeared when I called him! :content:

I had no idea that Galantamine worked that fast. I will say it was a little different kind of lucid for me. To try and explain I felt like things were really happening a little faster and my mind was really trying to regulate to what was happening. Usually naturally I don't have to keep up like that. So if I had to critique it, for me a lucid dream taking Galanatamine takes some getting use to...but I will also say the lucid was very clear and much more realistic than usual.

Always humble, always thankful. :)

Date: October 7, 2015
Method: MILD, WBTB
Sleeptime: 10:00ish
WBTB: 5:00am stayed up around 10 minutes
Results:Lucid (x2) DEILD and a DILD

DILD
Realized I was dreaming and became lucid. I tried to concentrate on an experiment I have been working on, but instead a vision of bodies floating in the sea appeared. That vision scared me so I made myself wake up.

DEILD
Decided to try again since I was still 'tingling' and a vision of women at a beauty parlor appeared and they just looked at me (like I really needed my hair done...which I do :lol:).

I concentrated on my experiment mission and instead a little boy appeared. He was adorable. He looked like he was about 5 or 6 years old in a baseball jacket and a baseball cap. He had no face at all (like if i was drawing him in a picture, I intentionally left out the eyes, nose, mouth, etc). I asked him what was wrong and he said, "My mommy will die before my daddy." I said, "What is your name?" He said, "Donnie." I said, "Donnie, do you want a hug?" He shook his head yes and ran into my arms. He held on to me for dear life. Let me tell you DV family, that hug felt as real as me typing these words on my computer. I immediately felt his sorrow and as I was hugging him the scene changed to this:

His mother told him to hide under the bed and don't make a sound no matter what he hears. The father came in and was beating the mother and said he was going to kill her. The mother's face never looked toward that bedroom and at least to me, she didn't seem like she wanted to make a sound. As if she knew if she yelled, the little body would come out from under that bed.

Yeah....I still have the goosebumps.

Congrats on the lds, bemistaken! :) Does the experiment you're working on involve calling a particular dream scene? Those visions were quite interesting and the second one a bit disturbing. But I think even such scenes are meant to teach us something. I actually sometimes have dreams about other people right at bed time HI. It's like I'm being told stories about others - it's beyond words, really.

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Congrats on the lds, bemistaken! :) Does the experiment you're working on involve calling a particular dream scene? Those visions were quite interesting and the second one a bit disturbing. But I think even such scenes are meant to teach us something. I actually sometimes have dreams about other people right at bed time HI. It's like I'm being told stories about others - it's beyond words, really.

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Hi NyxCC and thank you for commenting! What you are saying kinda make sense...I have no idea why I may see the things I see because I have always been told that what we dream are usually something for us (personally). However, now I wonder if this was for someone else or like you stated...just for me to learn something. I don't like having disturbing or odd lucids or visions during my lucids, but for some reason these are the types of dreams that follows me. Thanks for commenting! :)

Wow, bemistaken, sounds like an incredible couple of lucid experiences! Congratulations on getting lucid!

When the scene turned nightmarish, did you feel any desire to change the outcome? Not saying that you should or shouldn't, just curious about what you felt in the moment. Or did it feel more like just something you were being shown and should see all the way through?

Anyway, congrats again on the success... looking forward to hearing about your next LDs! :D

Hey Lucy, I thought I post this lucid I had earlier in the month (10/18) that I forgot about posting so here it is...

SPLIT VISION

I was really physically tired and thought I would just lay down for a few minutes. Got lucid during a nap and realized I had split vision...literally. I woke up to vibes and usually I can't see a thing because it is dark. I was pleasantly surprise to realized I could see however, there was a sight issue I never had before. Upon opening my eyes I saw a straight line drawn straight across both my eyes, my lower eyes saw my bedroom with my physical eyes (as it would look in waking life) where everything looked normal. The top part of both my eyes were in spiritual view (dream eyes where it looked like I was looking through rose colored glasses. Everything with this vision was extremely significant and dreamy). This was the first time that I actually got to see and experience first hand the difference of physical sight and spiritual/lucid sight at the same time. I have read that people can see through their eyelids but I really never knew how that would look. Usually, if I become lucid during a WILD/DEILD I am vibrating and I'm either in the process of being 'out' or already 'out.' During this process I do "open" my eyes and I can see but for some reason I just always thought that I was not looking through my eyelids...even if I was trying to stay still and let the vibes pass so I could float out (all with my eyes open) I just thought that they were my spirit eyes already out before my body...or something like that :huh:.

But this time I could actually see through my eyelids. Bottom half physical sight, top half spiritual/lucid sight. So cool.

Always humble...always grateful. Thanks Lucy. :)

That sounds really cool! :) Congrats on the ld.

Hello Lucy! These last couple of months have been crazy! I spent the beginning of the year with you and I promise I will end this year with you! I will not go out of 2015 without our quality time. Sorry I have been missing but I had so many life issues come at me all at once I had no choice...but I'm here for you now and that is all that matters. See you soon! :)

Well said, bemistaken! Let's have a very lucid finish of the year! :)

Luuuuccccyyyy...I'm Hooooommmee! :tongue: I must say I am excited to report back to you after my hiatus! Where do I start???

Well, since the last time I talked with you many things have changed in my life. All related to work, family, friends, and a partial mental breakdown. Some good news and some not so good news. I have discovered that no matter how much we try to prepare for changes in life we never can be fully prepared. I have had changes in my job in which I am working for a new organization. I have had changes in my home life in which I have finally gotten one child to stand on their own as an adult (so much work is involved in assisting a young little bird out of the nest in building their own nest as a young and mature 'bird'). I have had a couple of sudden deaths in the family in which no one is ever prepared for.

I should be broken, beaten, and bruised from what 2015 has dished out. On New Years Day, I always set myself up for a couple of goals and my main goal this year was to be ENLIGHTENED. I know Lucy...I really set myself up! What I have discovered about 'finding myself' is that how I react to life's role changes will determine how successful I am in enlightenment. If I react in a negative way then that could hinder my understanding of who I am. I have prayed, meditated, chanted, took all of my meds :chuckle:, and sung every spiritual song that I knew to help me deal with these challenges. You know what I discovered? As bad as it can look I AM STILL IN CONTROL. Even when it looks like my world is ceasing to exist and I am surrounded by darkness there is still a slither of light somewhere buried deep within me. If I can harness this light from deep within I can harness internal control. I can accept what is happening and choose to fall apart in a million pieces or I can give you a million reasons why I choose not to fall apart.

Throughout everything that I have been through I still find my way back to the open arms of Dreamviews...my peace and tranquility in the middle of a tumultuous storm. I must give a shoutout to my Dream Buddy Xanous who continued to send me words of encouragement. Xanous, you may not think those little messages meant nothing but I am hear to tell you...they did :hug: I know how busy you are and you didn't have to take the time out to think of me. On some of my bad days, your little message of "Hey Buddy!" was just enough to make me change my mind about doing something I know I would have regretted. Nothing serious...but serious enough that I know I would have regret doing it. Thank you Xanous.

Lucy, you were there for me also. I was able to get to you (Lucid) a couple of time throughout all of the chaos. I recall just getting lucid in a dream for no reason and waking up because I was not sure what was going on. The other time I got lucid was in the middle of the night...I just found myself floating. I haven't been able to think during this time so I just kinda floated from one end of the ceiling to the other. I recall how wonderful it felt. I felt so light and 'tingly' that I remember I just didn't want the feeling to end. I remember experiencing the 'tingles' from the top of my head to the bottom of my feet (if I had a head and feet). I was able to move the tingles from one end to the other...man what a feeling! Even when you think everyone and everything has abandoned you in your time of need, it is such a great feeling to know that my Lucy is always there. Even buried deep within the sh#t Lucy is still there waiting on me. Thank you Lucy.

So, as 2016 comes flying through the air with the greatest of ease what should I contemplate? I'm still here, still alive, and I ain't going nowhere. So what am I going for in 2016?

Me: "Heard this Bih named Enlightenment lookin' for me. Well, tell her I'm right here! I ain't goin' no where! Enlightenment, what's good?! Where you at?! Enlightenment Part Deuce! I'M STILL HERE!"

BTW Lucy, I have chosen not to fall apart :D.

One Love.

Love Always,
Bemistaken.

Meditation Thoughts This Week

Slowly surrendering...finding myself this week slowly letting go of things I can't control. Also, trying not to feel guilty about letting go. What I'm realizing is that letting go should not bring shame and guilt but peace and understanding. Stop trying to talk myself out of doing something good for me.

To be continued...

So glad you made it through. I know exactly what you mean about how much a little hello here and there can do. I would have totally given up on lots of things if it wasn't for my buddy here Milly. 2015 was a struggle but 2016 is meant to be a good year for shaking off the old and all things that do not serve us well. So heres to all of us.
hmm ok I lost the battle gonna send you a hug :hug: I was trying to act all sensible but failed

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So glad you made it through. I know exactly what you mean about how much a little hello here and there can do. I would have totally given up on lots of things if it wasn't for my buddy here Milly. 2015 was a struggle but 2016 is meant to be a good year for shaking off the old and all things that do not serve us well. So heres to all of us.
hmm ok I lost the battle gonna send you a hug :hug: I was trying to act all sensible but failed

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Happy New Year back to you MeohMyoh! Here is a hug :hug: (and a kiss :kiss:) right back to you and thank you for your comments!

JANUARY 1, 2016
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
What a wonderful surprise and blessing to be able to get lucid three times on New Years Day (which is also my birthday!). I couldn't have asked for a better birthday present. I was taking one of those "after gorging yourself with food" naps and I recall opening my eyes...but they were my lucid eyes and I was not yet out of body. I was tingling from head to toe. My mind was playing tricks on my because I saw my husband staring at me and he wasn't even home. I tried to roll out but I kept feeling my physical legs move and the tingling would stop and I would end up totally back in the physical. I was able to DEILD two more times but every attempt I tried to get out (roll out method, climbing rope method, etc) I was never able to fully get out of my body. At one point, the tingling increased so bad that I wanted to just roll out of the bed and take the chances of hurting my body but my mind kept confusing me and I got scared and decided not too. I gave up and just physically got out of the bed. I did piss myself off by not just going ahead and rolling out (even if I was in physical at least I can say I went ahead with the attempt). I thought my husband could have been in the room destroying my attempt but just like I thought, he was no where to be found. Why do I always fall for stuff like that? Anyway, I was too happy to be mad. I haven't gotten lucid in awhile and I was not going to let this spoil it! Lucy, looking forward to more in 2016.

Always humble. Always grateful. One Love.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

I'm sorry you've been having a tough time, but I am so happy you've been meeting up with Lucy. Congrats! I've been super distracted with life , but I think about you a lot and I am always rooting for you. I'm glad that my messages are helpful to you and whatever it was I'm glad you didn't do it.

While reading your post, one thing keeps coming to mind... something I've learned through my own path to enlightenment is that YOU ALWAYS HAVE A CHOICE. You can't always choose your circumstances, but you certainly can choose how you want to handle things. Emotions will change and you've always got a choice in how you react. I don't always remember this, but do strive to maintain this type of mindfulness.

Stay strong. You got this! :D

Your last LD series is really interesting. I often find it difficult to know what the heck is really going on, but 9 times out of 10 I realize that I should just go for it. I'm often surprised when I realize I haven't move my physical body one bit. Next time, I think you should go ahead and risk falling into the floor.

Congrats! and you seem to have such a sweet friend in Xanous, all good :D

January 4, 2016
DILD & DEILD
Thank you for blessing me with another moment to realize I do have a soul. Got lucid several times last night. Meditated before I went to bed on just letting go and letting GOD in. Woke up to some intense vibrations and I just let it happen. Once I was 'out' I decided that I was not going to do anything. I was not going to try to remember the TOTM, wasn't thinking about accomplishing any goals, wasn't thinking about challenging myself. The only thing that I wanted in being lucid was to just BE. I was being moved backwards again, but I didn't fight it...I just let it happen. I recall being dragged through my walls and through the roof of my house...all while going backwards. I use to get scared but this time I didn't even think that it was odd. I have decided to stop trying to figure out this phenomena and just let it happen. The time will come for me to be ready to see whatever I am suppose to see while going backwards. That's when understanding and comprehension will come. No hurry.

Just Be. :)

Wow our transitions are so similar. Congrats on rocking the lucidity! :rockon: Letting go is really important sometimes

What an awesome start of the new year! Congrats! :)

Hello my love! Thank you so much for sticking with me during my hiatus. You gave me a visit last night and it felt wonderful. I can't remember how I got lucid, but I do recall when I did get lucid I was blind. I went back in my body and was able to DEILD my way back out and all I can remember was that my husband was holding my hand and my church Minister was there also. I can't remember what we were doing...after something (???) I woke up. I didn't even care how awkward the dream was because I was lucid and that was good enough for me. It feels great to be back in the swing of things. I have been meditating for the month of February and I always feel as limp as a noodle when I'm finished. Meditation is awesome! Time to get back to my lucid goals! See you soon Lucy :kiss:

Meditation sessions today and they felt wonderful. Getting back into the swing of 'letting go' and I plan on continuing ;-).

Meditated everyday this week for 1-1.5 hours. I'm am doing very well with this and I hope to continue improvement. It is really hard trying to clear the chatter and it may take around 20 minutes for me to clear it all before I can 'feel' at peace. Gotta keep pushing!

Wow...I've been gone for awhile that I barely recognize the mobile site! Looks good! Had several life changes take my concentration, but I'm slowly working my way back. As always... Feels good to be home.

Trying to get back to a routine...

April 25, 2016-Present

Meditation: 1 to 1.5 hours a day

Exercise: Run 3-4 times a week for at least 1 hour

Diet: Meh...

Dream Journaling: Pretty good!

Lucidity: Nothing...but I will say my dream recall is better then what it use to be. I recall in one dream that I knew I was dreaming but I didn't do anything about it. I even said in my dream, "I'm dreaming" but I still didn't do anything and I went along with the dream...Damn!

I have had many obstacles/challenges (personal) this year so I know that my stress level is hindering me. Slowly but surely I'm taking control over my sanity and I know things will get better for me.

Signing off!

May 8, 2016-May 14, 2016

Meditation: 1 to 1.5 hours a day

Exercise: Run 3-4 times a week for at least 45 minutes

Diet: Pretty good! I dropped 4 pounds since the last posting and I'm not even dieting. Just trying to refresh my spirit with good healthy food and exercise.

Dream Journaling: 3-4 entries this week.

Daytime Awareness Work: Yes, with questioning my reality with RRC's. Also doing a lot of Frying Man's Attention, Reflect and Recall this week. Been somewhat hard because I'm a teacher and my job has me so distracted all the time, but school will be out soon for the summer and I will be able to focus more on this.

Lucidity: Vivid dreams but no lucids...I'm on a new sleep medication and it leaves me feeling like a damn zombie in the morning. I don't like it at all! I feel so nauseated in the morning and I believe I will tell my doctor to take me off of this one. I rather have insomnia than be nauseated.

Signing off!

Hey Bemistaken! Good job on the regular exercise and meditation. It must be very invigorating. :)

Those insomnia pills don't sound very good. Have you tried using melatonin instead? It's a sleep aid but not as powerful as the ones I suppose you're prescribed.

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Hey Bemistaken! Good job on the regular exercise and meditation. It must be very invigorating. :)

Those insomnia pills don't sound very good. Have you tried using melatonin instead? It's a sleep aid but not as powerful as the ones I suppose you're prescribed.

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Hi NyxCC! I'm going to try Melatonin again because this sleep medicine too powerful. I'm so hung over the next day!

Redemption.

May 15, 2016-May 20, 2016

Meditation: 1 hour a day

Exercise: Run 3-4 times a week for at least 45 minutes

Diet: Pretty good! I dropped 2 pounds this week :).

Dream Journaling: 3-4 entries this week.

Daytime Awareness Work: Same from last week. "Yes, with questioning my reality with RRC's. Also doing a lot of Frying Man's Attention, Reflect and Recall this week." School is out so I will try to really concentrate of my awareness and reflection.

Lucidity: Yes. Finally had confirmation that I DO INDEED HAVE A SOUL. On May 20, 2016, I recall waking up to strong vibrations (I was taking a nap). I hadn't had a lucid in months (almost three months to be exact). When I realized I was lucid, I was careful not to get to anxious or upset...I wasn't trying to do a TOTM or practice a certain skill like flying or going through a wall. I just wanted to be in the moment...be at peace. I recall me smiling and just floating in and out of my physical body. I lost count of the DEILDS, but it doesn't matter to me...I wasn't trying to keep count. I believe I have reached a certain level of lucid dreaming that my personal count of lucids doesn't matter to me anymore. I've made the decision to now focus on the quality of the lucid...not the quantity.

During my lucid all I wanted to do was control my emotions. In the past, I realized that when I get excited during a lucid I will be dragged by some type of invisible force, wind, and/or suction and I didn't want that to happen. Because I hadn't been lucid in so many weeks I just wanted to get back into the feel of being lucid. I practiced focusing on objects, tried to relax and not be so anxious just because I would end up back in my body, and truly tried to capture the feel of the transition. In essence, I just let things happen from one single moment to the next without analyzing the moment to death...it was refreshing.

Always humble and always grateful.
Bemistaken.

Yay! Congrats! :) Love how you enjoyed this ld.

My beautiful Mother, a Turtle, and Two Doves...

Dream #1: I saw my mother, yet when I was looking at her she looked like a younger version of myself but I knew it was my mother. She was smiling and very happy in a beautiful bright red dress...grinning from ear-to-ear

Dream #2: A huge turtle staring me straight in the eye. The big turtle didn't move or do anything...it just kept staring me straight in the eye.

Dream #3: A beautiful white dove being carried in the mouth of a beautiful big white dog (or white horse). I could tell the dove was unable to fly and the dove just laid in the mouth of the dog. The big white dog was very careful to not be too rough with the beautiful delicate white dove.

Dream #4: Another white dove flying erratically in a cage. I felt that the bird wanted to leave the cage, so I told the bird to just leave, but the bird would not leave out of the cage. It continued to fly haphazardly all around the cage...never flying out of the little cage door. It finally got tired of flying nowhere and laid down on the floor of the cage exhausted. I was sad because I knew all the dove had to do was leave the cage and it would be happy.

DATE: June 7, 2016
METHOD: WBTB and MILD
SLEEP: 6 1/2 to almost 7 hours
WBTB: 40-45 minutes
WILD x1 and DEILD x3

Did something I haven't done in a long time...a WBTB. It worked. I now realize that I have to have a lot of sleep and stay up for a little longer than I thought. In the past, I have done WBTBs after about 4-5 hours of sleep and I would stay up around 15-20 minutes. I suffer from insomnia so I always had a fear that I would not be able to go back to sleep if I stayed up any longer.

Over the past couple of weeks I have been dabbling with how long I should stay up. Well, this morning I told myself I would push the fear factor of not being able to go back to sleep in the back of my mind and I would stay up longer, so I stayed up for approx. 40-45 minutes. I usually go to bed around 1 or 2 am, but last night I went to bed around 3 am. This is not unusual. I woke up around 9:40am and I stayed up for the 40-45 minutes. I did what most of the facilitators and teachers say to do, so I kept my thoughts on being dreamy, calm, and lucid. Honestly, I kept telling myself to anticipate getting lucid (I believe this made a world of difference).

This is what happened...

I stuck with my new mantra, "I am Lucid." I ignore the noise and dreamlets (all while still kinda noting these are signs I'm almost sleep). I black out a couple of times but get right back to "I am Lucid." I notice a feeling like a heavy blanket landing on top of me and I start to 'tingle' from head to toe. This is my personal sign vibrations are upon me and I take a dive into the vibes and I roll out. I couldn't (and could) believe it! I haven't been able to do a good WILD in months, but I truly was able to stay alert and witness the transition. I felt myself still vibrating like crazy so I just kinda hold on, but then the vibes weakened and went away and I was back in my physical body. I was able to DEILD back out and I immediately went into stabilization mode. Once stabilized, I wanted to just practice on the quality of the lucid so I did a few skills I haven't done in a while. I took off flying and trying to maintain control but I got a little 'drunk superman' and ended back in my physical body. I DEILD out back and forth around 3 or 4 times until I was too mentally drained to do anything else and I allowed myself to be in physical.

Just a side note: I don't ever recall having this happen to me before but I do remember that every time I DEILD my way back out I would look down at my lucid body and I would have on different clothes. One time, I was totally a different person...like I had the body of a child...a little boy. Strange (???).

Always humble. Always grateful.

Just want to say... been reading your workbook, and ... I love you. I just love you. You're doing so awesome. :)

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Hello ThreeRainbows! You have made my day! Let's be friends! (friend request sent!) Have a wonderful day and a very LUCID night! :)

I just discovered your workbook. Amazing! I've had a few WILDS, which were the most bizarre and exhilarating experiences of my life, as well as one OBE years ago that scared the daylights out of me. But I want more! I love reading about your experiences! :holycrap:

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I just discovered your workbook. Amazing! I've had a few WILDS, which were the most bizarre and exhilarating experiences of my life, as well as one OBE years ago that scared the daylights out of me. But I want more! I love reading about your experiences! :holycrap:

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Thank you so much for reading my workbook! I appreciate it! Let's be friends (friend request sent)! Hope to talk with you soon! :)

It's so great to see other people with this same passion! I feel like such an alien with most people because of my interest in the spiritual implications of lucid dreaming. The looks I get when I try to explain this stuff...I even have a reality check tattooed right on my arm, and that is especially hard to explain. LOL.

I really like how you added your goals to your signature. What a great idea. I think I might try that so my goals are right in front of me all the time.

Just when I thought I had you figured out you throw me a curve ball Lucy!

WILD X1

I'm just coming back from vacation on a cruise ship and I thought there is no way I will become lucid on this trip. For those of you who have taken a cruise before you know the music and partying goes on and on 'til the break of dawn!

On my second to the last night on the ship, I woke up extra early to try to beat the long breakfast lines. I slept around 6 to maybe 6 1/2 hours, so by around 7am I was getting my breakfast on a tray and heading back to my cabin to eat in peace. I ate a huge breakfast and downed a couple cups of coffee. By now my husband was waking up and asking me how long the lines were and why didn't I bring him back something to eat (I did, he just didn't like the healthy choices of food that I brought back). My husband decided that he will head down to get his own breakfast. Being alone in the room I decided to lay back down for a quick nap since it was still so early. I laid there thinking that 6 to 6 1/2 hours is a long time for me to sleep. I also thought that there is no way that I should be able to WILD after going down four flights of stairs, getting a tray full of food, passing so many people and having to say' Good Morning' to them because they said it to me, walking up four flights of stairs again, then eating and drinking two strong cups of coffee. Note that being LUCID is ALWAYS on my mind, from the time I close my eyes to the time they open...I try my best to stay aware and recall. Laying in bed with my eyes closed I thought to myself, "Why am I vibrating?" I thought I was dreaming at first but I knew I wasn't because I just watched my husband leave out the door and I had just closed my eyes. I was tingling and I decided THIS IS HAPPENING and I concentrated on my 'third eye' and the vibrations shook me straight out of myself. I needed to do a RC so I levitated and it worked. I was in shock!

So what's the big deal?

I had a WILD recently in which I discovered that I need a lot of sleep before I attempt to do a WILD (a minimum of 6 hours and no less then that). I also found out that my timing for a good WBTB is unusually long at around 40-45 minutes. For me, the big deal is that I never had stayed up so long and did so many things and still be able to WILD! From the time I woke up to get breakfast to the time I laid back down had to be around 50 minutes (at least). The facilitators, moderators, and teachers are correct when they say you need to practice with the timing! Did I already know this...yes, but I was always reluctant to stay up for a long time fearing that I wouldn't be able to go back to sleep. I would always try to run back to the bed after around 20 or 30 minutes.

I know that everyone is unique in their own way but I want to know what is up with really long WBTBs? Does anyone else have their WBTBs timed at almost 1 hour??? Also, I didn't know that you could be so active during a WBTB...or is this just a fluke?

Anyway Lucy...always grateful. Always humble.
Bemistaken

June 23, 2016
Total Sleep Time: 7 hours
Meditation: 4-5 times a week for at least 45 minutes
Exercise: Running 45-60 minutes 5 times a week
Method: DILD

This morning I did something I never have done in my life...in a DILD, I was able to interact with a DC. This may seem very small to some, but it is monumental to me. You see, interacting with a DC has been one of my goals listed in my signature for almost two years. I very seldom DILD...usually because I believe everything I see in a dream. However, something happened in my dream this morning that usually never happens to me.

Here's my story...

I recall I was on my 2nd or 3rd dream and all of a sudden I just got really focused and I became lucid. I remember seeing a little black dog. I'm famous for going back into my body quickly (mostly during a WILD), so I started doing things that I do with WILD so I can stay lucid. I started rubbing my hands together and told myself to stay focused on the dog. I recall I was still rubbing my hands together and the dog stopped moving and stayed still right in front of my by my feet. I wanted to do something extraordinary so I decided to change the dog into a ball. Mind you that I have never change anything into something, but I have always believed I could do it if I tried. Still rubbing my hands together and never taking my eyes off the dog I said (in my head), "Turn into a ball now!" Let me tell you DV family, I have absolutely no experience with SUMMONING OR INTERACTION WITH DC's, so I was not ready for what was manifesting right in front of me. Stay with me as I try to explain what I saw. As soon as I said 'turn into a ball now' the little black dog broke apart into small little pieces...:hrm:, like little black particles floating at my feet where the dog once stood (trying my best to give you a picture here). As it broke into small particles, the particles turned red and then clumped together and blew up like a balloon into a red ball...are you getting the picture? OMG! IT WAS AMAZING! I have never been able to do something like that, nor see something like that!

But guess what? That is not the end of the story! I turned my head to look over my shoulder and the scene changed to like a swimming pool party. I felt like I could do anything after what I just witness, so I walked over to a DC standing by the pool and I told him, "Hey you! Go jump into that pool now!" He didn't say a word, he turned around and on command, he jumped into the pool ('sideways style' like a synchronized swimmer)! I laughed so hard I believe I woke my damn self up! :cackle:

I can now put that Red X in my goal box as completing the task of interacting with a DC! Don't seem like much, but to me...I just won the lottery! I did it! :fame:

Always humble. Always grateful.
Bemistaken

Holy heck dream buddy!! I'm so happy you got to experience this. That must have been so cool. I'm really proud of you for holding the dream together and having so much control! Congratulations :)

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Holy heck dream buddy!! I'm so happy you got to experience this. That must have been so cool. I'm really proud of you for holding the dream together and having so much control! Congratulations :)

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I'm just trying to be just a little bit like you (my hero and you're still the best :hug:)! Love ya!

Week of June 27, 2016

Meditation: 45 minutes
Exercise: Running 4 times a week for 45-60 minutes
Sleep Time: Focus on getting no less than 6.5-7 hours of sleep before attempting any method for LDing
Continue to practice: ADA, Reflect and Recall

Affirmation: "I am more than this."

Bemistaken

July 2, 2016

Unusual dream...a black panther pulled a gun on me and I took him down. I wrestled and fought with the black panther until I was able to disarm the creature and I killed it. I was happy, yet I knew something was wrong with the situation of fighting a black panther (I should have gotten lucid here). My emotions took over me in the dream and I was just happy that I didn't get shot :wtf:.

Hey, just dropping by to thank you for the nice words and to say that you are amazing! :)

Every single time that I see you post here no matter how my day went, you put a smile on my face.

July 19, 2016
Total Sleep Time: none
Meditation: 4-5 times a week for at least 45 minutes
Exercise: Running 45-60 minutes 5 times a week (down to 135 lbs!)
Method: Had no intent in using a method during my nap
Results: WILD

I was so sleepy today and I decided to lay down for a nap. As soon as my head hit the bed I felt the weakest of a vibration. Not too unusual because I can feel myself vibrate just about doing anything (watching TV, on the phone, reading). When I'm doing an activity the vibes are very weak and slightly noticeable. Anyway, I felt the weak vibe and I thought, "I wonder..." I concentrated on my third-eye and the vibrations became stronger and stronger. A couple of times I felt myself trying too hard and the vibes would go away. When this happened, I would release the tension I had on my third-eye and go back to relaxing my physical body and the vibes automatically would return.

For a moment, I heard children laughing but I wasn't going to fall for this (we have kids next door, but I just treated this as the regular 'noise' we should all ignore). So, I tried to intensify the vibes with my third-eye again and I felt myself trying to wiggle out but I couldn't. I knew I was close...so I just kept calm, relaxed my body, waited for my vibes, concentrated on third-eye and...I was out. I came out in a way I never had before...crucifixion style. My physical body was laying on my left side, but I rose out of my body face up, crucifixion style with both of my arms stretch out on either side and I was standing straight up! It was so beautiful! I came out in the dark and was so happy that I just wandered in the dark with my arms still stretched out (I forgot to call out for light). I wanted to see so right when I was going to ask for sight my cell phone ranged...damn it! Normally I turn everything off and go to my lucid hide out where I can't hear nothing (no technology allowed and I can't hear any noise from the outside). I only laid down in my bedroom because I 'thought' I was going to just rest my eyes. Oh well, a lucid is a lucid and how neat this one was to come out positioned like that?! Thanks Lucy! You always surprise me.

Always grateful...always humble.
Bemistaken.

P.S. I think I found my rhythm for my WILDs

1. Lay down and go to sleep (for me I must get at least 6.5-7 hours of sleep, but I have slept as long as 8 hours with a WBTB and was still able to get lucid)
2. WBTB and stay up for at least 55-60 minutes
3. Lay back down
4. Place my intent on staying slightly awake (personally, for me this means feeling my body fall back to sleep. Again, for me, I personally have vibrations as my clue and/or I can feel my body feel like a heavy blanket just laid on top of me and I know I'm close).
5. Concentrate on my third-eye
6. Use an exit method to come out
7. Stabilize dream and don't forget to ask for light if I'm in the dark

This seems to work for me every time when I WILD and I hope it helps someone else. Remember, everyone of us is different and just because some of these things happen and work for me doesn't necessarily mean that it will work for you. It has taken me around 2-3 years to truly come up with a good WBTB time and understand that I need a lot of sleep before I even attempt. So continue to practice, practice, practice, and whatever you do...DON'T GIVE UP!

One Love.

Congrats on the awesome WILD! :)

Very interesting about your daytime vibes. Are they similar to wild vibes then but just weaker in intensity? When did you start experiencing them /or noticing them?

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Congrats on the awesome WILD! :)

Very interesting about your daytime vibes. Are they similar to wild vibes then but just weaker in intensity? When did you start experiencing them /or noticing them?

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To answer your question...my daytime vibes are weaker in intensity. I'll try to explain in a short version. Before I joined DV, I didn't even know what 'vibes' were. Since I was young, I would be waken out of my sleep with vibes so strong I felt like I was being shook straight out of my body...like electricity and the sound of very loud buzzing. The vibes and buzzing have always been with me. So if I'm partially sleep or sleep, the vibrations are very intense and I just hold on for dear life until eventually...I pop (or float) out.

Since I have been learning so much from being a member here, I have learned to pay attention to everything including my body. I have noticed that just around last year during the day, I can feel myself 'tingle.' The tingling can range from ever so slight to pretty noticeable. When I realize that I'm tingling, I'm never around anyone. If my husband or sons are home and I'm up by myself with my insomnia watching TV, I can feel myself tingling from head to toe...but again I'm still by myself. I can never feel my vibes (or tingles) if there are a lot of people around me.

I don't know if this is normal (maybe you can help me) but I can make myself vibrate without me even being nowhere near sleep. Just like I'm typing right now, I can concentrate on my third-eye and within one blink of my eyes I can feel the vibes. If I choose to bring on vibes while fully alert, they are soft, but if I continue to concentrate they grow stronger...but I'm still alert and it will take awhile because I have to get to a point where my body is relaxed. If I try this when I meditate and go into a deep enough trance, I will WILD.

My question to you is...is this normal? Like something natural and normal body stuff that can be explained or is this abnormal?

Any information is helpful and thanks for your questions!

Hi you two :) NyxCC's vibes question showed up in my profile activity and caught my interest. I really don't know the answer to your question, but I can bring on very weak vibrations during the day with some effort and I have noticed vibrations and their connection to dreaming since I started lucid dreaming in adulthood. It seems that the vibrations while in bed are connected to how close I am to dreaming and I can sometimes intensify them to enter a dream but I am not very good at that yet. I don't know if that helps at all.

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Hi you two :) NyxCC's vibes question showed up in my profile activity and caught my interest. I really don't know the answer to your question, but I can bring on very weak vibrations during the day with some effort and I have noticed vibrations and their connection to dreaming since I started lucid dreaming in adulthood. It seems that the vibrations while in bed are connected to how close I am to dreaming and I can sometimes intensify them to enter a dream but I am not very good at that yet. I don't know if that helps at all.

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Thank you Fogelbise! Yes, and any additional information I can hear on this topic to research is always a help! Thanks again!

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My question to you is...is this normal? Like something natural and normal body stuff that can be explained or is this abnormal?

Any information is helpful and thanks for your questions!

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Before any elaborations I would love to answer your question with your own signature quote. :)

In addition, I think it's pretty fair to assume that your lucid dreaming practices have strenghtened your ability to feel and induce these sensations - especially since they were accompanying sleep so often already. And now you are able to activate these even in the waking state, but as you mentioned it happens in state of relaxation. I find this really exciting. :)

By the way, my own experiences with light tingling during the day come mainly from focusing on the crown chakra. I usually don't get these when falling asleep (plus I am still more of a DILDer) but there's definitely plenty to explore regarding using the crown chakra or third eye chakra as focus points when falling asleep or to induce vibrations and follow with wild.

Fogelbise, thanks for sharing your experiences on this!

July 27, 2016
Meditation Session: 45 minutes
Method: WILD
Exercise: Still running 4-5 times a week...have increase time from 45min to 60 min.

Felt vey tired after doing a lot of work on my computer and needed to lay down to rest my eyes. I remember the last time I said I was going to 'rest my eyes' I ended up doing a WILD. So I set my intent to do the same thing...


As soon as I laid down I could feel slight tingling from head to toe. I remained calm and tried to make my body go limp. This was hard because every time I went limp I would almost go to sleep. I would jolt myself out of it and had to go through the motions all over again. After around 15 minutes I felt a 'swoosh' of imaginary wind go across my body and the vibes were not far away. This transition was a little different because I really didn't feel myself come out like I usually do. I just looked around my bedroom and realized I had already came out. I believe maybe that imaginary wind may have been my transition instead of the vibes. That's why I can't rely on vibrations and they really should be ignored like the teachers on DV tell me. Lately I have been talking a lot about my experience with vibrations, so I believe that I will just look at vibrations as a sign...not necessarily that I'm close to being lucid (because in this situation, I believe I already was), but just as it is...a sign. Anyway, I thought it would be neat to document this type of transition just for my record book.

BTW, nothing important or fancy happened while I was out (even though it doesn't have to, just happy to get a lucid), just wanted to document this type of transition for myself.

Always humble...always grateful.
Bemistaken

July 30, 2016
Meditation Session: 55 minutes
Trying something New: Focus on third-eye after every other breath
Method: MILD, WBTB
Time WBTB: 45 minutes
Exercise: Ran 60 minutes that evening
Results WILD and DEILDx2
Total sleep time: 7.5-8 (ish) hours

I did my WBTB for around 45 minutes after sleeping approximately 7.5 hours. My husband was in the bed and my 'lucid hangout' (spare bedroom or the couch) was taken because both of my grown ass sons had come home to visit. I tried to just lay there in the dark and focus on relaxation and good positive energy and I knew this was difficult because my husband snores and moves a lot in his sleep. I truly didn't have anywhere to go and be by myself so I sucked it up and took the situation for what it was. Trying to get lucid with my husband in bed is never easy for me, but I thought since I came this far I should be able to teach myself another person should not interfere...but he kept interfering (touching me, stoking my arm...yea, you know where this is going). I told him "Not now, later." He knows that is code for, "Get the f#ck off of me, I'm trying to go back to sleep and get lucid! I only have a small window of time where this can work!" He understood and rolled as far away from me that he could get to while aggressively throwing the covers over him (yea he was mad, but I will make it up to him :cheeky:).

Anyway, this is when the magic happened:

While in my third eye concentration phase, I remember my vibes came on very, very strong. I popped out feeling like I was peeled from a boiled egg. Before I could think about what I wanted to do, a strong wind had blown me up into the sky. Usually when I want to fly there is a process. My process is to think about flying, strike a superman pose, and off I go. This time I was not thinking about flying...I was just flying in a bright sky all of the sudden. This is where it gets weird...as I was flying, flowers were flying next to me in an almost geese formation...flapping around and everything. I stared at the flower thinking how they remind me of Magnolias (after all, I do live in the south). The flowers even had the thick green leaves still attached to them as they used these leaves as wings. If I slowed down, they slowed down, if I sped up, they sped up. I was losing lucid energy and found myself back in my body and I DEILD out again. The flying flowers were gone (of course) and I guess that disappointment made me go back in my physical body so I DEILD out again. I knew this was my last shot so I just thought about summoning my spiritual guide from real life. Anyone that knows me know that I'm not that great with summoning but I didn't let that stop me. I called his name and I did manage to summon a shadowy figure of someone holding out his arm...then I woke up. I can't say that is was my waking life spiritual guide, but I felt no fear. I believe that if I would have had more lucid energy I could have seen who it was. During the third DEILD, my clarity seems to get worse so instead of everything being clear, it seems to turn grey and not too long after this I will be in a pitch black void.

I looked around to be sure I was back in my bedroom and there was no need for a reality check...my husband was all up on me. Sigh...I truly wanted to cuss him out.

Always humble and always grateful. :)
Bemistaken

August 14, 2016
Method: MILD, WBTB
Time WBTB: 40 (ish) minutes
Exercise: Walk 45 minutes
Results: WILD and DEILDx2
Total sleep time: 8-9 (ish) hours

Went through the process of setting intent on WILDing this morning. Had a good nights rest and did a WBTB...I could barely hold my eyes open, but I forced myself to stay up with my unusually long WBTB timeframe of at least 45 minutes. By the time 45 minutes had past, I was nodding off and moderately vibrating as soon as my head hit the pillow. I forced myself to stay alert as I concentrated on my third eye...within seconds I was successfully 'out.' I recalled seeing myself as someone else (same mind but I had a different funny looking body). I was on a cruise ship getting ready to go up or down some stairs. I ended up back in my physical body and I was able to DIELD myself back out. I found myself still on the cruise ship and I passed by a mirror that 'just happened to appear out of no where.' I wanted to see how I looked in a mirror because I hadn't done this task in a while.

Three strange things were happening all at once. I felt like I was in 'first, second, and third person' in unison. First, I felt myself thinking and being as a third person. Second, I was looking at my physical self in the mirror and I felt my physical self pose in the mirror. Not only did I see an image of me in the mirror (the one where I was 'me' in mind but not in body), but then I saw something else. Third, I saw another image...something was 'floating' above my right shoulder but I couldn't make out what it was. It gets even stranger...the entity didn't have a face or shape, but I felt that it was in communication with me. I know this sounds ridiculous but it is the only way I can explain whatever it was that I saw. There was no shape, face, or even color...but something was moving on top of my right shoulder in the mirror. I could see it, almost like an outline of something that was alive. It was friendly and communicating with me on a spiritual level. The entity's size was about as large as a grapefruit but no smaller than an orange...it was floating just like a feather.

In a flash I was back in my physical body...I DEILD back out but my mental strength was shot and I couldn't hold it together and lost lucidity. No problem, always grateful and always humble...for the three of me. ;-)

I think about life and what happens after this lifetime a lot...always have. I have always questioned my reality. Why are we here? Who am I? Are we more than this? As a child I would allow my mind to wonder to places deep inside my imagination. As I grew older, it became a little more difficult to use my imagination. Why is that so? I guess because as an adult I allow my waking life to suck up any and all mental space I may have left. Family, work, school, people, behaviors, responsibilities...so much to do and so little time. I have no idea how certain thoughts get into my head. I often say to myself, "Where did that thought come from?" I realize these thoughts that pop out of no where must come from 'somewhere' and all I know is that I want to go to that 'somewhere.'

Last night I told myself that I have been working on finding my process for obtaining lucidity for some time now. I feel like I am now understanding my process, however; I don't understand lucidity. In other words, I can get lucid but I don't understand the pure essence of lucidity. Sure I have read DV and other resources about what I can do and sure I have challenge myself with a few tasks...but I'm talking about something totally different here. There is something that cannot be explained...there is something MORE.

During my MILD last night I told myself that I will continue to follow my process but I will stop setting limits on myself. Stop wishing to just get lucid and that's it...I just can't do that anymore. I am not doing my body, mind, and spirit any justice by getting just 'lucid.' I AM MORE THAN THIS. Instead of trying to get lucid I will set my goal at allowing myself to experience what lucidity means to me. Not focusing so much on what I can do, but rather on understanding the essence of being in the experience.

No more wondering, "Why can't I get lucid?" Now the question is, "Why can I?"



*Side Note
After doing a MILD with all of the above information still on my mind I woke up to vibrations so strong I thought we were having an earthquake. I was sleep and really don't remember a dream, but I will call this one a DILD. I remembered what I said to myself before I fell asleep (about experiencing and just being in the lucid) and I just stayed calm and still. Nothing fascinating to report except I felt peace and freedom...which is fascinating enough for me. :)

Always humble and always grateful.
Bemistaken

Those are some nice thoughts. I have often pondered the same questions. I still wonder. Keep seeking, my friend.