Thread: werty52's Workbook

I've been on a dry spell for quite a while (16 days?). I've been putting a lot more effort into getting a lucid dream lately but haven't had much success. I discussed with Emnition what might be happening and we thought the primary reason could be mental fatigue, no PMO (since the dry spell started around the time I started this), or the lack of oversleeping.
I feel like I've done everything right: executing the SSILD method perfectly with no results, doing regular meditation, DJ recall is good, great sleep pattern, started DY and ADA. I'm really surprised I haven't achieved a lucid dream . Lucid dreaming didn't seem this difficult before, I thought I could achieve a lucid 90% of the time if I got through the SSILD cycles but it's repeatedly failed lately .

I've been focusing a lot on DY, ADA and meditation today. I tried a 'lucid dreaming hypnosis' youtube video which turned out to be pretty cool. I treated it like meditation and found myself learning a lot about what it feels to fall asleep. Also found myself forming dreamlets by will, but they would dissolve rather quickly. I've also been repeating the mantra "Remember, I'm dreaming" throughout the day and doing lots of reality checks. I'm hoping all this effort today will help me break the dry spell tonight

Forget about having a dry spell, it is really unhelpful to focus on such thoughts. I've been following your posts and feel like you've been really energized by all the recent changes and practices. Your next ld is just round the corner!

Forget about having a dry spell, it is really unhelpful to focus on such thoughts.

I'll try not to focus on it then I'm really enjoying the processes involved with trying to get lucid each night too and for some reason I wake up happy.

Tried to SSILD last night and got through the cycles pretty easily with a bit of lapse in focus. I'm going to try re-read the SSILD tutorial to refresh it in my mind. Can't wait for a lucid dream, it's getting me excited . I feel like the next lucid will be a breakthrough too!

I re-read the SSILD tutorial and found a few differences, but after attempting it I didn't yield any results. One attempt isn't enough but I decided to focus on the DEILD challenge for now. If I'm going to have a lucid dream then it should be a DEILD hence why I've started intensive DEILD attempts during the night (about 8 alarms 15 minutes apart after 4-5 hours of sleep).

My dream recall dropped a bit after a few rough nights and my sleeping pattern shifted by about 2 hours (waking at 9am instead of 7am). I found myself caring less about getting lucid and instead just really enjoying these normal dreams I've been having lately. They just seem so awesome and more eventful, and also so vivid and detailed. I'm not overly focused on my lucid dry spell, but it's still confusing me - I definitely don't see normal dreams as failures though.

I've been slacking off with ADA and DY over the past few days and my motivation has declined which is probably related to this dreary grey weather we've had non-stop for nearly 2 weeks. Gimme sun!... But from this I've found the trick for me to have a highly aware day is to jump into mindfulness meditation related practices in the early morning. So from now on I'd like to set a more dedicated time of attaining that alert state, probably before I hop on the computer in the morning to write up my DJ. And also waking up earlier in the morning really makes me more aware too.

So I guess my focus is for now:
- Wake up at 6-7am again
- Do mindfulness meditation after breakfast or after journaling my dreams
- Spend less time reading my books, as I've nearly finished 4 books in 4 days

Originally Posted by werty52

- Spend less time reading my books, as I've nearly finished 4 books in 4 days

Something about not having enough free time..

Lol Werty you are reading super fast. What kind of books are these? They must be interesting .

I had a lucid dream finally . Could have been a combination of a SSILD + MILD I think. I didn't recall it at all this morning... During my morning meditation I just remembered a really small detail, and after about 5 minutes I managed to rebuild the memory a bit . Can't believe I forgot haha

I really screwed up the lucid though, as I managed to 'teleport' but I had closed my eyes. When I tried to open them to the world again, I felt like it was really hard, and then I suddenly opened my eyes in real life. I honestly felt like this could have been a really long lucid dream too

Lol Werty you are reading super fast. What kind of books are these? They must be interesting .

Been reading the 'Panlong' series (also known as Coiling Dragon), which is a translated light novel. It's the first light novel series I've read, but I took the day off from reading it yesterday because I wanted to slow down

Something about not having enough free time..

Haha I'll get back on track and use my time better

Awesome! Congrats werty! And you managed to do a teleport on top of that.

Panlong - that looks like a really good read *Nyx bookmarks this*.

Feels like it's been a while since I posted in my workbook. I successfully moved to the North Island and have successfully passed my university degree the job hunt has begun

My dream recall has gone down but I told Emnition that I would try to recall at least 3 dreams per night for the next 3 days, this should bring my recall up and then I'll take another step from there to improvement it even more. I want to get my recall better than it's been in the past and to a point where I can maintain it with ease.

No PMO has been great so far and I've seen some major changes in my social life. I've been really proactive lately too as I need to distract myself occasionally from those 'urges' exercise has been a great outlet and I learned that I can do one-handed push ups. I lost about 5kg too (while putting on a lot of muscle).

The hardest thing to keep up with is meditation, DY and ADA atm. It got harder when my laptop was broken (I only got it back 2 days ago).. I've still be doing them but the general amount of time I spent on them in a day is wayyy less. I'll be making a good effort to get back into them properly over the next couple days.

Congrats on your recent life developments werty!

So now you are at a new place - again this is very good for awareness - it is proven that when things around us change we are paying more attention. Good luck with the job search - hope you find something that you really like .

I think I succeeded in a couple DEILDs last night and have finally reached 40 lucids. Although those two lucids were really... crazy O_O

I had been suffering from shitty recall for a while and decided to put an end to it since there's no way I would have remembered a lucid even if I succeeded. So I've been attempting to achieve my goal of recalling 3 dreams for 3 consecutive nights, but it kept going to shit since I couldn't remember my dreams. I started writing my dreams in full after each dream onto paper during the night. This has boosted my recall a lot in just two nights and has resulted in me noticing higher awareness (due to the numerous WBTBs from night time DJing) and 2 lucids to boot .

Me and Emnition started a challenge to get points based on a goal we set for ourselves and then we add up our points at the end of the week. I reckon this will help us progress even faster and I'm looking forward to smashing through some goals
My next goal I think will be either to:
- increase the quota for dreams per night (e.g. 4-5 dreams)
- start using another dream recall method to support it more
- something else..?

I feel like when I recall dreams I always miss out the start. Like my second dream from last night (#173 - Carny / Black Leech / Tripppyyy / Herion - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views).
From the http://www.dreamviews.com/dream-sign...ompendium.html it seems like you can recall up to 20 dreams a night to be called a 'master' in recall quantity but I just don't see how it's possible.

Congrats on the lds!

I think it's good to aim for higher recall. Apart from that, the categories in the compendium can be very difficult to fit into. In order to have the master recall, you'd have to wake up after every cycle and possibly write things down as even if you are able recall all the dreams, you are likely to forget the details later. You would also need to sleep many many hours in addition to waking up super frequenty. On top of that, if your recall were perfect each REM cycle would be more like a single dream that transitions from one place to another. So, the number of dreams would actually decrease...

Thanks NyxCC I've managed to have a few more since my last post too.

I think it's good to aim for higher recall. Apart from that, the categories in the compendium can be very difficult to fit into. In order to have the master recall, you'd have to wake up after every cycle and possibly write things down as even if you are able recall all the dreams, you are likely to forget the details later. You would also need to sleep many many hours in addition to waking up super frequenty.

Atm I'm attempting to wake up after every cycle and write things down in full detail, it's really tiring . I end up spending up to 20 minutes writing some dreams (for the bigger ones at least). And like you said, I have to sleep a lot longer because of waking up all the time :/ (and my eyes can get sore sometimes).
But, aside from boosted dream recall, I've learnt a lot more about how dreams work and the amount of time I spend in a dream cycle.
I also didn't really believe nREM dreams were that much of a thing, now that I've actually had them (and a lucid nREM dream) I understand a lot better how people can reach that master recall stage.

On top of that, if your recall were perfect each REM cycle would be more like a single dream that transitions from one place to another. So, the number of dreams would actually decrease...

Oh wow that's kind of new to me, I never really thought about that O_O.

Kind of on a break with lucid dreaming while I'm visiting family and stuff. My DJ is next to me but I'm too tired by the end of each day so that I just sleep like a brick. I also probably wouldn't have the time to write it up in the morning.

I've been attempting to develop my awareness to help myself stay focused and on the ball during the day. It's so that I can keep my energy up and not let the fatigue hit me, also to pay attention to details with the family members so I can better my relations with them.

Until the next time..

Yes, these reunions can be very tiring indeed - especially if there is a lot of food involved . On the other hand, it's a great opportunity to practice relevant day skills - observation, mindfulness, recall.

Happy holidays!

Home sweet home, I'm back from my holiday visiting my daughter now. In 2 hours I'll also be getting 4 teeth pulled out

While on holiday I guess a few things happened, I was generally far too tired to recall most of my dreams but there were times when it was surprisingly good. I had no focus on anything dream related over the past 3 weeks but it's kind of nice to see that all the effort into lucid dreaming doesn't disappear when you're on a break. I'll be starting the challenge with Emnition tomorrow for a week. My goal this time is to practice dream recall (3 dreams a night) and meditation (1 hour a day).

Can't wait to be dreaming again!

How's the challenge going? Did you guys start already?

Yeh we just finished another challenge, it was a draw this time and we both did fairly bad .
I've felt pretty run down after getting my teeth pulled, but I'm better now.

We just set another challenge starting today: Em is doing DY and DJ, I'm sticking to a routine.
My routine is a workout schedule, DY, ADA, meditation and 2 dreams recalled a night. I really wanted to up the difficulty for myself this time so I'll see how it goes