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I made the title random because at first glance of this section, all I saw was a bunch of threads called "Hi", "Hey", "New Here", and I wanted to be rebelliously original. :panic:
Long posts make me sleepy (even though, as an insomniac, that can actually be a blessing), but I won't put you all through that. :blahblahblah:
So, hello. :shadewink:
I'll keep it short too. Hi!
I decided to make this post elaborate.
Hi Smushy, welcome to DV!
:breakitdown: :muffin: :rockon: :hugitout: :horse: :aphiusiscrazy:
I could do with a Mandarin right about now...
I just got this massive craving for a kiwi after reading your post. Thanks, Loaf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loaf
Melon, tbh.
Welcome to the forums, orange-lovin smushy!
What about JackFruit
I could really go for some apples right now.
No way. Grapes ftw.
Just when did this topic get so derailed?
None of you have any idea how delicious a mayhaw is. Just sayin'.
Thanks for the warm welcoming and odd sharing of what you're craving.
BUT, I just want to clear this dispute up, as it is my thread.
Orange is the best.
Hello! :p
...I really hate fruit T_T...how about some tacos?
Pancakes FTW! Anyway, welcome to dreamviews.
Tacos will work.Quote:
Originally Posted by DropOfTime
At least now I know what you all eat in your dreams.
Pancakes is where I draw the line!Quote:
Originally Posted by Blupaba
Oops, I just derailed a thread. Some staff member I am. :panic:
Anyhow welcome. How experienced are you at LDing? Are you familiar with RCs, stabilization, and DILD?
Oh, don't worry about derailing any of my threads. I'm like half ADD, so I just sort of go with the flow of derailment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loaf
Wow, you like to abbreviate. I haven't had an actual LD, but have had 3 dreams this week where I do a RC in them. Two of them, I woke up immediately after doing the reality check. The other one, which is actually the dream I had last night, had a reality check that failed and signaled that I was awake---I wasn't. All 3 dreams I wouldn't consider lucid, because I didn't feel aware in any of them, and felt as if the dream was viewed in 3rd perspective. Lame.
I'm vaguely familiar with everything. I have been reading websites religiously each night for hours. I'm a slow learner; I'll be honest...I was secretly hoping that this would be, in a sense, my "calling" because I always wanted to have an innate talent. Of course every talent needs practice, regardless, but you know what I'm trying to say. Or do you?
Smush, it sounds like you're just as hopeless at lucid dreaming as I am.
;_;
Okay Smushy, if you haven't looked here do so. That might help, as abbreviations and acronyms are quite common here.
Also take a look at reverse blinking if you haven't already, thats helpful. And learn about DEILD too, that will make life tonnes easier for you if you wake up after an LD.
:welcome:
Grapefruit! Way better than oranges. They are my favorite food, ever! Well, it might be tied with fresh pineapple, or lentils. Maybe Kale. Grapefruits only take first place because they are seasonal. Man, now I'm getting hungry.
Waffles are MUCH better. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Blupaba
I forgot about waffles. :shock:Quote:
Originally Posted by Puffin
How could you forget about the waffles? :panic:
Now I want a waffle and it's 12am :panic:
Mmm, bananas, the official sleepyfruit of DV.
Fruit gives me heartburn. Can we have pizza instead?
Oh gosh no I hate bananas.
Thank you, Loaf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loaf
Tell me about it. I didn't find out there was a DV Dictionary until, oh, last week. You're ahead of the game, buddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smushy
How 'bout veggies? I'm pretty enthusiastic about kale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzzkc
Thank you. :-P What's up? I'm bored and my mind is basically dead right now. I want to study lucid dreaming, but am having a hard time bringing myself to read the long threads on here. I want to lucid dream tonight, but I'm exhausted/stressed to actually go through several methods at the time. I don't know why I'm saying all this to you, but, well, yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
Well, I'm posting in the newbie forum, so I pretty much asked for it. :cheeky:
I'll just say right now, if you ever want to look at people's journals without wading through paragraphs upon paragraphs, check out the One Sentence thread in General Dream Discussion. We're limited to one sentence while posting, so we're less likely to bore you with the details.
If you want to try a technique right away, tonight, I'd recommend MILD. Basically, it involves repeating a phrase to yourself ("I will remember my dream" or "I will have a lucid dream"), and visualizing it take effect. To oversimplify terribly, your dreams are based on whatever you were thinking about before you fell asleep, so if you focus on your intention to be lucid/remember your dreams, it should happen.
It might be more than one night before it takes effect, though.
In the longer term, writing a few jotnotes in a DJ in the mornings is a great way to improve your recall and start DILDing naturally.
I hypothetically just finished pulling beer for minors, and now I'm thinking about going to bed. Hypothetically.Quote:
What's up?
I like it when people talk in the hypothetical about events that actually happened. Hypothetically speaking, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
I'm not a fan of leaves. How about some broccoli or cauliflower?Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
Yeah I am now one of those people that just skims through large posts... :P
if you want to find something out PM me and I'll respond with messages straight to the point.
PM'ing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loaf
Ah, but the part about going to bed? Pure fiction.
Only if they're served with a cheese sauce. Otherwise, how do you feel about zucchini?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzzkc
Apparently I meander a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loaf
Can I PM you as well, Loaf?Quote:
Originally Posted by Loaf
I have never tried it, and likely never will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
I've done that technique. If anything, ever since I have been practicing, it seems like I remember less of my dreams. Or maybe I am just paying more attention to what I remember and don't, even though I have always been interested in dreams. Not to be a pessimist, and make it seem like I'm one of those annoying cases where my negative mindset is what blocks my success, but I just may very well be incapable of lucid dreaming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
Oh, what about me? Can I PM you?
Edit: Ninja posts all 'round.
MILD or dream journal?Quote:
I've done that technique. If anything, ever since I have been practicing, it seems like I remember less of my dreams. Or maybe I am just paying more attention to what I remember and don't, even though I have always been interested in dreams. Not to be a pessimist, and make it seem like I'm one of those annoying cases where my negative mindset is what blocks my success
I highly doubt that.Quote:
but I just may very well be incapable of lucid dreaming.
This is a sad, sad thing. I know many people who dislike zucchini; I just can't understand it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzzkc
Bell peppers? Or is that a fruit again?
You are very much capable of lucid dreaming. But you're right, the mindset is incredibly important. The more confidence you have, the easier things get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smushy
As for your recall troubles, many people find it helpful to jot down notes as soon as they wake from a dream, not just in the mornings. Try that if you aren't already doing so.
Meh. Not really a fan of peppers outside of sauces.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
Anyone can PM me, I'm a DG after all.
Hey, Smushy, where exactly are you with techniques and such? So far I've pieced together that you've tried MILD and like concise answers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzzkc
I really should bug you guys more often. God knows my in-dream DGs aren't very helpful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loaf
I just want to bug Loaf more often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
To Loaf: <3
^^^ Also, see edited post above. ^^^
See, I thought that was the point. Then I started going of on tangents that were somehow relevant?Quote:
I just want to bug Loaf more often.
Silly me.
What do you have against stir fry, anyway?Quote:
Meh. Not really a fan of peppers outside of sauces.
Well, I think Smushy is now conversing with Loaf via PM, making us utterly useless, despite our willingness and ability to help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
You'll excuse me if I feign bitterness.
I dunno. Woks are pretty awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
Not completely useless. In the future, Smushy can say "Look at how many people posted in my intro thread! I feel so loved, I can ignore all the people trying to help me!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzzkc
Spam them both with PMs?
I'm quite good at feigning bitterness. :D
Hm. Now I kinda want to walk around saying "Wok. Wok wok wok wok. Wok." What a wonderful word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzzkc
It might be time for sleep soon.
But Smushy is loved. Smushy just doesn't know how deep our devotion runs. Soon, all will be made clear when Smushy discovers the nightly rituals, human sacrifices, and finger painting sessions conducted in his or her name.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
As long as it's legit Spam. I don't want to be a bother, if I can help it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
I'm fairly decent at feigning and reproducing all human emotion. It was a necessary survival skill I picked up when I was younger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
People might just think you're saying "Walk. Walk walk walk walk. Walk."Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
Or not, since your accent is all different from my own and what have you.
Sleep? So you can, what? Dream?! Possibly lucidly?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
Oh no, we can't have that. We must let sleeping dragons lie.
And, of course, the hymns written in blood.Quote:
But Smushy is loved. Smushy just doesn't know how deep our devotion runs. Soon, all will be made clear when Smushy discovers the nightly rituals, human sacrifices, and finger painting sessions conducted in his or her name.
His or her name
Is Smushy
And s/he shall be Ours
And s/he shall be
Our Smushy.
But we were being helpful.Quote:
As long as it's legit Spam. I don't want to be a bother, if I can help it.
My learning experience was more along the lines of "masking emotion is unnecessary". If you constantly burst into evil laughter, no one takes you seriously enough to stop you from taking over the world.Quote:
I'm fairly decent at feigning and reproducing all human emotion. It was a necessary survival skill I picked up when I was younger.
*sigh* And this will remain true.Quote:
People might just think you're saying "Walk. Walk walk walk walk. Walk."
Or not, since your accent is all different from my own and what have you.
At least until I manage to synchronize all of humanity's brainwaves with my own. Because that's a good way to take over the world and then I realized that everyone would be a megalomaniac and we would all be vying for the throne.
I got distracted from my brilliant scheme. It was totally going to work.
You mean that growing list of enemy DCs over there?Quote:
Oh no, we can't have that. We must let sleeping dragons lie.
Maybe I'll stay awake a while longer.
...
Damn it, we're out of oranges!
Look at how many people posted in my intro thread! I feel so loved, I can ignore all the people trying to help me!
:panic:Quote:
Originally Posted by Smushy
The Cult of Smushy? Smushy Shadows? People That Run Around Making Up Songs About Smushy?
Honestly, guys, I'm already double-agenting as another overlord's minion. I don't know if I can make the commitment.
I'm guessing all the talk of veggies is was what did us in. Plus Loaf has a green name. Ours aren't even orange. . . yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
Meh. World domination is okay, but it's too much upkeep for me. I'd probably end up wiping out the human race, which would be less than productive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
I think I'm going to make it my personal goal in life to disrupt your efforts as subtly and discreetly as possible. For your own good, obviously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
I was referring to you. Which is what made my use of that phrase slightly amusing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
Both. Never doubt anything. (Yes, I know that sentence is full of irony...)Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
Thank you for the post! (You too Samael, if you are reading this. I'm usually unorganized when it comes to small things like thanking people, so I apologize for not putting the "thank you" up there, where it belongs. And yes, I really did type all that out instead of just going back and add in "Thank's Samael!" up there.) Wow that was a long message for being between parenthesis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzzkc
Anyway, I'll keep trying to stay motivated. Which, honest to heck, is easy. It's not some goal I'm going to feel good about simply because I reached success---lucid dreaming is something that really does interest me (I have always loved analyzing my dreams and actually enjoy the more complicated ones because of this).
Smunions. It sounds like Smushy combined with minions, and I think you should make this as your User-Title (or whatever that thing is called below your User-name). :-PQuote:
Originally Posted by Samael
I do like the color orange.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzzkc
I like the food-talk, though. I get annoyed by those hard "stay on-topic" folk. Besides, all this food-talk is technically on topic if you base the discussions off the title.
I'll consider the ironic echo thanks enough. :P
Now I just need to decide if our constant hijacking of the thread was a point for or against us.Quote:
I'm guessing all the talk of veggies is was what did us in. Plus Loaf has a green name. Ours aren't even orange. . . yet.
You mean that actually ruling them is a requirement for world domination?Quote:
Meh. World domination is okay, but it's too much upkeep for me. I'd probably end up wiping out the human race, which would be less than productive.
I think I'm going to make it my personal goal in life to disrupt your efforts as subtly and discreetly as possible. For your own good, obviously.
I get distracted thwarting the plots of other evil overlords in the making. I generally don't tell them when I'm doing so.
Really? Hazel's been telling me that the dragon is the guy sleeping with my wife.Quote:
I was referring to you. Which is what made my use of that phrase slightly amusing.
Like funions?Quote:
Smunions. It sounds like Smushy combined with minions, and I think you should make this as your User-Title (or whatever that thing is called below your User-name).
Ah, but "Adversary" means that I'm secretly plotting against you, which is a requirement for all DreamViews-based mionions. Especially the dark-aligned ones.
We're all friends here, but we're also trying to kill each other.
What are funions, anyway?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
Looks like "for".Quote:
Originally Posted by Smushy
Pssst Smushy, this intro topic is a hit. :P
I have tried the reverse-bliking method (tried it last night, actually...trying it again tonight), I have done MILD, I have been consistent with reality checks (I do the fingers to palm one, the plugging the nose one, and any random passing through solid ones; I have also done the mirror one here and there, but haven't been consistent with that one, specifically), I have tried using random alarm clocks a couple of night back in hopes of either:Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
1. Waking up quickly from a dream to record it in more detail.
2. Have that alarm signal me in my dream that I am, in fact, dreaming.
My dream journal is currently my IPhone. :-P Despite loving short and simple messages, I fail at expressing my thoughts into that style, so my documents on the phone are massive.
The thing with my dreams is that, it seems as if it is in third person perspective. I am not sure if I can grasp lucidity when I feel detached from the dream.
I like you, Smushy, I really do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smushy
However, I am no minion. Devoted worshiper sure, but if I were to become your minion it would just end badly for you, and I wouldn't be able to live with myself.
It might have been the shameless "bumps" that I put into the thread that did it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loaf
It works. For now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzzkc
EDIT: A moderator is going to become so annoyed by my lack of multi-quoting. Whoops.
How welcoming.Quote:
We're all friends here, but we're also trying to kill each other.
Friend or minion, you will be plotting against me, so does it really matter? I think not.Quote:
Ah, but "Adversary" means that I'm secretly plotting against you, which is a requirement for all DreamViews-based mionions. Especially the dark-aligned ones.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
http://www.thecubsbrickyard.com/wp-c...ps-funyuns.jpg
On a side-note, the bag looks photo-shopped into his hands. Or maybe I'm just used to seeing a bong there, instead.
I read "reverse bikini method", so I should probably go to sleep soon.
Have you tried writing on paper? I know it sounds silly, but for some people it really does help. I'm better at making a few notes in a paper journal before I try typing it up in my computer.
I usually dream that I'm some bizarre character entirely separated from my waking life. There's no reason to reality check if reality's supposed to be like that, is there? :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by Smushy
I can be a minion, but I draw the line at "devoted." And I could live with myself. Bad things usually happen to my megalomaniacal employers. I plan for it. I'm like the Evil Grand Vizier of Minionhood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzzkc
And, really. Anyone who signs an employment contract with someone calling themselves Louis Cypher, Nick, Mr. Scratch, or Samael pretty much gets what's coming to them.
Nah. I'm just stalking Mzzkc.Quote:
It might have been the shameless "bumps" that I put into the thread that did it.
I know, right? It's brilliant.Quote:
How welcoming.
Go to sleep. We can talk tomorrow. It's 2 in the morning here, so I should get to bed myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
That's useful tech for WILDs and falling asleep in general. It probably won't help too much with anything more than that, unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smushy
What mantra do you use? And how much confidence are you putting behind those affirmations? Really, an ideal MILD only takes one truly powerful assertion to take effect. Repetition is nice, but without putting real meaning and belief behind it, you're definitely missing out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smushy
RCs are great for raising awareness. I warn against making them habitual, though. When you RC, take the time to study your surroundings as thoroughly as possible. Be completely sure of your state of being before you stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smushy
1. I find alarms tend to hurt my recall more than help them. Try training yourself to recognize micro awakenings throughout the night. I started that process with a simple mantra: "I will wake up after every dream." And after a few months, it started happening all by itself (which can get annoying sometimes, but the LDing benefits outweigh the negatives, by far).Quote:
Originally Posted by Smushy
2. I've never really done much experimentation with EILDs. Just be sure to train yourself to recognize the sound IWL and RC properly after hearing it.
Writing down key words upon waking from each dream, not phrases, might be worth trying once or twice, you can always record the details later. =PQuote:
Originally Posted by Smushy
I've gotten lucid off one of those before. It's definitely possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smushy
I told you I was good at this emotion thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
Or is it the other way around?Quote:
Originally Posted by Samael
It's 5AM for me. I kinda have to pull and all-nighter now. As per my rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smushy
I practice WILD when I can't sleep, which is quite often. I'm not putting as much energy into the WILD technique as much as I should, mainly because I feel as if I would be more comfortable doing the MILD technique. I do, obviously, try out WILD methods, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzzkc
Does it need to be exactly the same thing every time, or can you bend it every now and then. I say something along the lines of: "When dreaming, I will know I am dreaming." I shake off any doubts when I get into that zone, but I am sure the underlying doubts are there---they just don't come to mind during that time. I do put forth a huge amount of energy for this, though. I am very imaginative, so I really surround myself in those thoughts to the fullest. When I'm passionate about something, I'm really passionate about it. Unfortunately, this determination can lead to high hopes and inevitable disappointments.Quote:
What mantra do you use? And how much confidence are you putting behind those affirmations? Really, an ideal MILD only takes one really powerful assertion to take effect. Repetition is nice, but without putting real meaning and belief behind it, you're definitely missing out.
Thank you. :) I'll work on that.Quote:
RCs are great for raising awareness. I warn against making them habitual, though. When you RC, take the time to study your surroundings as thoroughly as possible. Be completely sure of your state of being before you stop.
I see...Quote:
1. I find alarms tend to hurt my recall more than help them. Try training yourself to recognize micro awakenings throughout the night. I started that process with a simple mantra: "I will wake up after every dream." And after a few months, it started happening all by itself (which can get annoying sometimes, but the LDing benefits outweigh the negatives, by far).
2. I've never really done much experimentation with EILDs. Just be sure to train yourself to recognize the sound IWL and RC properly after hearing it.
I don't mind writing the details. I sometimes add more to the writing as I remember throughout the day. As I said, I'm very imaginative, so sometimes my mind will take a piece of the dream and elaborate on it to make a full-length story that was actually not part of the dream, so I need to be careful with that.Quote:
Writing down key words upon waking from each dream, not phrases, might be worth trying once or twice, you can always record the details later. =P
I'm tired, but I'll warn you now---I'm going to come after you tomorrow to talk about this more. :PQuote:
I've gotten lucid off one of those before. It's definitely possible.
Oh my. I was pretty taken aback by how closely your technique matches mine. I, too, have been doing the fingers through palm and nose plug RCs, as well as trying MILD every night. I even log my dreams on my iDevice too and I've had utterly no success so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smushy
Do let me know if you find anything that clicks for you. I've got a strange feeling it'll work for me as well.
I think this is the most popular welcoming thread I've ever seen!
It's been extremely entertaining, thank guys (and welcome Smushy, I can see you already fit right in :))!
I try. [/another shameless bump]Quote:
Originally Posted by Serenity
In all honest, though, this thread has become sort of a discussion instead of a simple welcome thread. Thank you for your welcome, though! :-P
Will do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrum