How many LDers are also into OBE and Astral Projection?

**Rawracookie** · 02-25-2011 03:02 AM

I was wondering how many of you are into OBE and Projection and all that in addition to LDing. So far I'm only into LD but I would like to hear your take on the more abstract things as well.

**kalesh** · 02-25-2011 09:50 AM

I am into OBE and Astral Projection. What follows is my opinion only, and it shall remain until I get evidence of something else.
I believe AP and OBE is the same thing. And that the consciousness and subconscious become one and exit the body, into the physical plane, not into the dream world.
Everything seen and done in an OBE/AP is real, and can often be verified later. So thats my take on it. I don't really know what else to add. As for the methods, there are several around. I guess I will wait to see how this thread develops.

**Rawracookie** · 02-26-2011 05:19 AM

I was wondering if it might be possible for those to be a LD where your brain tries to predict the future. Although you say it can often be verified.

**kalesh** · 02-27-2011 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Rawracookie

I was wondering if it might be possible for those to be a LD where your brain tries to predict the future. Although you say it can often be verified.

I do not think so. If anything a conscious effort to get to the future through a normal LD might actually work better.

In an OBE/AP if you go to a specific place that you have never been to before, say a street in your neighborhood that you never went to, or a distant town you never visited, or anywhere, then after waking up you go to the same place in real life. You will often find that what you saw in the OBE/AP and what you see in RL will be the same, unless someone changes them between OBE and going there in RL.