Where are the beginners?

I seam to stand at a dead end. I can remember dreams...sometimes, about every third night. I am keeping a dream journal, I think I have identified one of my dream signs. I got into some very first state of sleep paralysis. I am doing reality checks throughout the day, well I cold do some more checks I guess, but I forget doing them because of work and other stuff...
Now what? I do not see any progression. Other people asking similar things in here are told they are not dedicated enough, by people who hat almost a hundred lucid dreams, and simply state 'Oh well it's easy for me'.
Where are the beginners? Those who have taken the first step and become lucid once a month or so? Those who could tell me, if they had similar problems and how they overcame them. I honestly do not see, where to go from here.

Regards
Lorgarn

hear is a beginner :(

I am a beginner. I have only had three lucid dreams since I began trying. I just keep trying and don't get myself down. I think one of the most important things is to continue with the dream journal everyday or as much as possible. This helps with dream recall so that once you do begin to attain lucid dreaming you will remember the dream.

There are a few things that I have been doing to try and help my process. First is what I believe is called 'reality checks'. Sometimes during the day I simply look down at my hands and rub them together and say out loud "Am I dreaming?". This is what triggered the last lucid dream that I had. Secondly, I downloaded some free isochronic tones that I found from a forum (http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/lucid-...ccount-108404/). I'm not sure if they work but they are definitely relaxing to listen to. Lastly, I read up on the WILD technique and I use it as meditation as I go to bed. I know it is not the "proper" way to utilize this technique but, once again, I find it relaxing.

Don't let anybody tell you that you are "not dedicated enough". Unfortunately it is easier for some people than others and we are the others. Just don't give up :) Good luck.

Man... the people with hundreds of them were once beginners. You do several RCs, do you question reality? Why do you think that WILD needs you to reach SP? If you have a job, that causes stress on the body, maybe your mind too, and thus, it makes recall more difficult, so it is no wonder it varies.

We were all beginners once. It is like playing an instrument. Practice makes perfect. Just stay at it :)

I've never been a beginner in this..LD.
Note: There were Naturals around as well.
Though being one, I'm learing to control it from happening ONLY when I wanted to.
:cheeky: Enjoy your stay, this site is incredible.

I'm a beginner:) And as far as I understand, there are actually a lot of new members this year (me included^^) vast majority of whom are beginners.
Though I already had few LDs, they all have been random DILDs. I'm struggling with dream recall now and it's not easy for me at all...

I've been a beginner for almost a year now and it seems to me I'm going nowhere but I wish all of us noobs goodluck, I know we'll be having LDs soon just don't give up.

BTW I had my 1st lucid the day after I promised myself to stop visiting dreamviews and stop inducing LDs.

Beginner here as well. Do not be disheartened, just follow the advice of some of the more experience posters on this board and keep at it! I don't know who it was that told you that you were not dedicated enough, but don't listen to them. It has been my brief experience that nearly EVERYONE on these boards is extremely helpful and just generally good people.

I believe the DJ is an essential tool. Even if you rarely LD (I have only done so once), it really helps you to see the general atmosphere of your dreams. It has really helped me pick out dream signs more readily; now if only my damn unconscious mind would stop listening to DC's when they tell me I'm not dreaming!!

Hi guys, although I joined several years ago, I've been away for quite a while and came back just recently. So right now, I'm where I have never succeeded in WILDing, and have only had 3 extremely short DILDs, none of them being very vivid. I am about to restart my dream journal, it really is too bad that I lost my old one, though... Also, last week I had pretty good dream recall, but since Saturday I haven't remembered a single dream. I hope I will develop better recall, and I hope you all do the same. I am going to try setting my alarm clock to wake me up after around 4 hours of sleep, and see if I manage to remember a dream.

Hey. I am beginner. I had my first GOOD lucid dream yesterday. Not very long, but nice. PM me if you wanna now what did I use. ;D

hi friends, i found out the best reality check is to try to breath through your nose, if u breath then u r dreaming,,,,,, wow i like this. bt the bad thing is i still gt only 1 o 2 lucd dreams per 2 and half wks or a month, i.e im still a bigginer hey prffsionls we nd help hr. much love from tanzania

Hi there - yes, it can be a daunting task to find people who can point you in the right direction. Let me make it easy for you - go to the Internet Explorer and type in cosmicdreamer.co and you will come to a site that has all the answers you will need. Specifically read 'The Book' which is free downloadable and go to the section Lucid Dreaming - you will get all your answers there. Hope this helps.

Thanks for your input everyone:

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I think one of the most important things is to continue with the dream journal everyday or as much as possible. This helps with dream recall so that once you do begin to attain lucid dreaming you will remember the dream.

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I started one in december and was able to recall at least one dream every night for about a week, which was an awesome result. Then it declined to every other day, then to one ever tree day.

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First is what I believe is called 'reality checks'. Sometimes during the day I simply look down at my hands and rub them together and say out loud "Am I dreaming?".

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Doing those all day. I have some events on which I do one and everytime something seams strange or puzzeling.

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Secondly, I downloaded some free isochronic tones that I found from a forum (Lucid Dreaming Isochronic Tones THEY WORK!!!!! First Hand Account). I'm not sure if they work but they are definitely relaxing to listen to.

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I have tried several types of music. I find all of them relaxing, but I have not noticed any effect so far.

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Why do you think that WILD needs you to reach SP?

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I have read on several places here, that SP ist the first stage on the transition from being awake into a dream. I am not dedicated to WILD, I just gave every technique a try. WILD is described as a more difficult technique, so I do not try to relay on that exclusively.

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Originally Posted by Shinice

I've never been a beginner in this..LD.
Note: There were Naturals around as well.
Though being one, I'm learing to control it from happening ONLY when I wanted to.
Enjoy your stay, this site is incredible.

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I am not sure, what you try to tell me....

Regards
Lorgarn

I wish someone would have told me as a beginner to just focus on WBTB. Wake up after six (or less) hours, be active for 2, go back to bed, combine with mantra. This is the easiest way to lucid dream.

If it doesn't work for you once, don't quit, try again.

That means..we do not need any induction method to LD.
Refered as Naturals.
Anyway, don't worry its easy to get Lucid. Just hard to control.
You'll get it sometimes. Just need a good imagination, thats all.

I think what helped me achieve 2 little LDs in a matter of 4 days and before that my only other one was over 8 months ago, is definitely doing consistent reality checks, because the first new LD I had I remembered to do that in it and the first time I did it in the dream it didn't work, so I tried it again! But practicing RCs religiously on a daily basis throughout the day made my brain adopt it and transfer it over into my dreams.

My favorite RCs are holding my hands out in front of me and counting my fingers (that's the one that worked in my LD 5 days ago), attempting to put my finger through my hand and a new one I am trying is holding my nose and trying to breath through it.

Also, someone had told me about Dream Stabilization and how once you do become lucid, you will lose it instantly if you are too excited and don't have a plan. First you need to anchor yourself in your dream, but even before you sleep, make up a plan, make a goal of something you plan to do once you become lucid... start out with something small, not too complex and then work your way to bigger and better things the more experienced and comfortable and stabilized you get.

Good Luck!

Ah, there is people who can WILD without the need of SP, so I would advice to NOT focus on SP and just focus on getting into a dream when trying to WILD.

Erm..pardon me just asking, what do others always mean by 'the need of SP'?

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Erm..pardon me just asking, what do others always mean by 'the need of SP'?

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Some people can enter LD only when going throu SP, depending on my own experience I am one of those people, because SP is very rare thing for me.

I'm a n00b as well. Still trying using reality checks, dream journal, subliminal music, and sometimes I try supplements. It's been nearly 3 months of trying and I only have one semi lucid experience so far that was very short, but I keep on trying. It might take me a long time, but I will get there eventually, and so will you. Hang in there.

i am a newbie just like yourself. i have had many lucid dreams in the past up until recently i assumed that everyone had lucid dreams. I am trying some of the techniques i have read about on other forums to help with lucid dreaming. My lucid dreams have always been random and i have had very little control over them.

Keep going. I've become lucid a few times but then I forget what I'm meant to be doing. The last time was a few days ago, I had a false awakening, realised I was dreaming, thought great let's see what I can do, got out of bed & then the husband asked what I was doing - that toatally threw me & so I woke up again! Didn't really use any technique, just noticed I was dreaming, the windows in the bedroom were wrong & the clock display had changed colour.
Don't give up, you'll get there, I'm sure you will.

Whats Sleep Paralysis about anyway? Is it good or bad?

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Whats Sleep Paralysis about anyway? Is it good or bad?

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Here is a link to the wiki for a User Tutorial on Sleep Paralysis... Wiki explains anything and everything you may have questions about.

For me, the biggest step in getting better at this was true relaxation. Stress, I feel, absolutely has the potential to kill recall. I know we all have responsibilities in life that we want to uphold. However, I don't let my responsibilities and what I do in my life bring me down or cause negative emotions in me (or at least I try my best not to hahaha). There'll be days when you're totally overwhelmed and that's fine. Just try your best each day and don't feel bad if one day you had so much on your plate you could not do everything you wanted.

The point is, just relax, have fun and enjoy the process of learning. It took me several weeks maybe a month or two before I was able to intentionally have a lucid dream. Read tutorials on dream recall and see if there are any areas you can improve as well. Keep at it with the RCs and DJs and try learning more about lucid dreaming with the tutorials on DV.

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Here is a link to the wiki for a User Tutorial on Sleep Paralysis... Wiki explains anything and everything you may have questions about.

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Person who wrote tutorial quotes:

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i should also state that i haven't yet acheived a full WILD

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In other words, the tut is bad :)

And per sleep is almost a must as well. Only a few people can achieve SP without it

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Person who wrote tutorial quotes:


In other words, the tut is bad :)

And per sleep is almost a must as well. Only a few people can achieve SP without it

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Wow. I was simply providing an answer for the initial question of "What is this Sleep Paralysis stuff anyway?" , not how to achieve it. Furthermore, titling the link as "User Tutorial" versus "DV Tutorial" pretty much implies a risk of inaccuracy, but everyone has their own opinion. I only provided a link, to answer a poster's question, that has obviously already been approved and posted by DV.

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Wow. I was simply providing an answer for the initial question of "What is this Sleep Paralysis stuff anyway?" , not how to achieve it. Furthermore, titling the link as "User Tutorial" versus "DV Tutorial" pretty much implies a risk of inaccuracy, but everyone has their own opinion. I only provided a link, to answer a poster's question, that has obviously already been approved and posted by DV.

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Right. And I didn't attack you or kick your cat! lol

Just saying how I feel in a public forum :)

I didn't have this feeling..but lucid every night still.
So, it means I did not SP to get to lucid..lol.
And I can see that SP is not pleasant. Then why have it?
I only get giddy after I woke from lucid, not before.

I was un the same state as tou were but when I had my first semi lucid it just happens ALOT more and I mean alot you just have to keep trying and it will be like a snowball effect just be positive