Excited to learn!

Hi guys!
Hows it going?

Im new here. My name is Boggie, 26 years old guy from romania, and Im really excited to learn this skill. I want to learn it to get to know what might be “under the surface”, analyzing the dreams, and also for the excitement of discovering a “new” world. To experience something that sounds so absurd and unrealistic that I cant image how that would be or feel, I just cant grap it with common sense.
Ok, as you may expect I have a lot of questions.


1. “Almost all lucid dreams start during or from a non-lucid dream: you suddenly recognize a dream-like feature and there you are, lucid.”
Is the goal to be conscious during the whole dream to look for dream signs?


2. “Imagine yourself lucid in the environment. the important part is visualising yourself becoming lucid. I believe visualization is the key to LD's. I urge all who want to attempt a lucid dream to try visualization. ”
How should I visualize if I don’t know what im visualizing about?


3. The first page I visited was lucidipedia about WBTB.
I thought I would start out with WBTB since there seems to be most info and step by step guide there about Lucid dreaming. But I wanted to post here to get a bigger perspective on different techniques.

To start with. The guy says that the longer you sleep the better. And then he says to set the alarm for 4.5h of sleep time. I don’t get it? Should I only sleep so little and then go up out of bed for 30-90 min? In his video he says that he woke up after 9h.
Then I have the next problem, when I wake up, usually I cant fall asleep again.


4. How should I wake up without moving or thinking about anything when I have to move to turn of my alarmclock that really chocks my out of my sleep/dream.


5. Then to MILD. Cant it be combined with WBTB? Wouldn’t that be better to combine the two of them?


6. “Believe that, in only a few minutes, you will soon be dreaming again, and imagine yourself knowing it's a dream, doing whatever you want.”
Don’t I have to wait to the last few hours when Im in REM sleep to be able to dream?

1. almost all yes, but it depends on your method, typically a WILD will have you lucid from the start and same with a DEILD.

2. just imagine you exactly where you are, but imagine you having the sudden realisation that you are dreaming, imagine what you would do, where you would go etc etc.

3. WBTB works better when coupled with OTHER techniques. Such as WILD, MILD and even DILD. i would reccomend MILD and DILD to start off with, but it never hurts to throw in a WBTB every now and then.
4.5 - 6 hours of sleep i would recommend before trying a WBTB, but i wouldn't stay up for 90 min in any case, around 10-15min is usually more than enough.

4 Not moving at all is a technique to help you DEILD. It's best not to move TOO much when you wake so that you don't forget your dreams straight away, but turning off an alarm should be fine!

5. as i said, WBTB can be combined with MILD :D

6. yes you do, but the belief and intent will increase your chances of lucidity an astronomical amount. Its all about the power of the mind :D

and finally, 7.

Welcome to DV :D and good luck.

7. “Because the goal of a MILD is to remember to RC in a dream, you need to be familiar with them.”
How should I be familiar with that if I even haven’t got my first lucid dream. Don’t I have to go through the steps of recalling dreams, Discover dreamsigns and Recognize dreamsigns to be able to do reality checks?


8. “Make sure that your mind set is set on Having that lucid dream right before you go to sleep! Don’t let your mind wander.”
Same here, I don’t know how to do tha since I don’t know what its like to lucid dream :S


9. I’ve read something about drinking water before going to bed, but don’t remember why and how that worked. Would someone like to explain this to me please?


10. Doesn’t the real world get boring once you experience all the stuff you can do in your dreams?



Ok guys. That’s all for now. Only read about WBTB and MILD. Don’t know if I will continue with WBTB if I cant fall asleep again. But I need your advise for this. If it means that I should wake up after 4.5h then its no problem because then I defenitly know that I can fall asleep again, but if it means that I should sleep 8h and then try to sleep again then I probably cant to it. I think I wild stick to MILD because I like the routines for it. The success from it is not as important as the routines I get from it. Ireally want to get into the habit of getting rid of everything that I have on my mind from the day and to meditate before going to bed.


Good night!

Your over thinking it all.

You need to be familiar with different reality checks, meaning you know several RC's incase one fails. No you dont have to do all that first a reality check is pretty simple. You sit there and really actually question whether your dreaming or awake, plug your nose, if you can breathe, you might be dreaming, try to push a finger through your other hand, or a wall etc. Try to fly, see if you can remember where you are, why your there and how you got there, if you cant, your probably dreaming (or really drunk)

All you need to do is be confident that you WILL lucid dream, seeing as a lucid dream will pretty much be exactly whatever you expect it to be anyway, dont focus too much on what its like to lucid dream, just know that you will have one.

The main idea with the water is that you wake up in the middle of the night and go to the toilet, allowing you to do a WBTB.

In short, no. Thats what makes LD'ing so fun, seeing as you can do anything, but reality doesn't get boring, you still have lots of stuff to do in your waking life!

Like i mentioned earlier, probably between 4.5 hours to 6 hours is best... You want to wake up whilst in REM or just before. But this is probably unique to you, so experiment :D

Good luck.

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7. “Because the goal of a MILD is to remember to RC in a dream, you need to be familiar with them.”
How should I be familiar with that if I even haven’t got my first lucid dream. Don’t I have to go through the steps of recalling dreams, Discover dreamsigns and Recognize dreamsigns to be able to do reality checks?

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That's fine, in real life just do reality checks when something strange happens, that way when something weird happens in the dreams, you will reality check.

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8. “Make sure that your mind set is set on Having that lucid dream right before you go to sleep! Don’t let your mind wander.”
Same here, I don’t know how to do tha since I don’t know what its like to lucid dream :S

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You don't need to know what it's like to have a lucid dream, more the intent to have one, will yourself and really want it, and it is more likely to happen.

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9. I’ve read something about drinking water before going to bed, but don’t remember why and how that worked. Would someone like to explain this to me please?

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I don't think there is any proof of this, if it works for you great, but this is considered an aid at best, I would look to improve on method instead.

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10. Doesn’t the real world get boring once you experience all the stuff you can do in your dreams?

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No I don't think so at all, this isn't inception, they are two completely different experiences, so don't worry about that, there is only more to discover, so keep at it!

Hope this helped! ;)

Sweet thanks Nito and arch for your time and the explanations. Now it makes a bit more sense. This is so new and English isn't my first language so its was a bit to much at the same time to take in. I'll let this sink in and see where I take it from there :)

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Originally Posted by mrbambocha

Sweet Nito! Thanks for your time and the explanations. Now it makes a bit more sense. This is so new and English isn't my first language so its was a bit to much at the same time to take in. I'll let this sink in and see where I take it from there :)

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No worries... Its what this forum is for :D

Also your english is great!!

1.) The goal is for you to realize you are dreaming while in a dream. One of the way to do that is look for dream like qualities, or dream signs but you can do it other ways too. What you are talking about is DILDing. You can look at all the other ways you can become lucid here.

2.) Just visualize the last dream that you had, and imagine that in the middle of it you become lucid. What do you do? Another thing you can do is just to visualize that you are in a dream right now, and you realize it. You could also just make up a dream to visualize about you becoming lucid.

3.) Like Nito said you can use WBTB with other techniques like MILD or WILD. You can find user made tutorials about different techniques as well as the official ones by Dreamviews. For example, I wrote a WILD guide a few months ago. If you want to check it out, there is a link to it in my signature.

4.) Well if you want to DEILD, it is best to find an alarm that shuts off by itself. You can find alarms like this for your PC, phone, or iPod. If you're waking up to WILD, it is okay to move, but you just need to be relaxed. You can still get into SP if you move when you wake up.

5.) Yes, it is actually better if you do that. I recommend you check out Naiya's Simple MILD Technique, if you are interested in MILDs.

6.) Well you can dream in all stages of sleep not just REM. REM dreams tend to be a lot longer and more vivid though, and that is usually the time you have lucid dreams, so yes. Belief and confidence goes a long way.

7.) Well the first thing you need to focus on is just recalling dream. Once you can remember at least one dream a night, then you can start doing reality checks. It wouldn't even hurt to do reality checks before you start to improve your recall. You don't have to to have had a lucid dream to be familiar with reality checks.

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You don't have to know what it is like to have a lucid dream. You just have to be confident you WILL have your first lucid dream that night. Confidence is important, and you can't doubt yourself.

9.) Well drinking a lot of water before bed can wake you up in order to do a WBTB if you don't want to use an alarm. You're probably talking about this thread. I think that there is something to it and agree with it.

10.) No.

Anyway good luck with lucid dreaming! Stay confident! If you have any questions just PM me! :)

Hey guys!

I wanna improve me dream recalling and read someone that said that its good to set an alarm clock that rings after 4h then after 2h and then every hour. Is that a good method? And should I add in some extra time for falling asleep? Found a really good alarm clock here if interested : Free Alarm Clock - Free software downloads and software reviews - CNET Download.com You can choose as many alarms as you want, it can wake the computer out of sleep so you dont have to hear the fan all night etc.


Ive also got a hemi -sync series that I might use instead, if it works as I think it should. But Im not sure I really get it since english isnt my first language. My question is: should it be played through the whole night?

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Series 1 should play one time through and is designed to awaken you

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Has anyone tried hemi-sync sounds?

Most people wake up between the sleep cycles on their own, 4-5 times a night. Sometimes you just don't realize it - you just roll over and continue sleeping.

But you can tell yourself as you going to bed that you want to wake up after a dream - that's at the end of a cycle. Then you can write your dream while you still remember it and get up for a WBTB, if you like. You can have a drink of water before going to sleep - will help you to get up at night.

I personally don't use alarm clocks because they startle me, but I do wake up on my own about 4 times a night. But if you want to use an alarm clock to wake you up - set it to multiples of 90 minutes (since one sleep cycle is about 90 min long), starting at 4.5 hours after you go to sleep. First part of the sleep has short REM parts (part when you dream), but the later part of sleep has long REM parts.