Did anyone try the Hypnogogic Imagery Technique? I want to get some feedback from people who have tried it. Anyone, with either a failed or successful try, please post your findings. Also, tell us or me the difficulty of HIT.
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Did anyone try the Hypnogogic Imagery Technique? I want to get some feedback from people who have tried it. Anyone, with either a failed or successful try, please post your findings. Also, tell us or me the difficulty of HIT.
im still trying to figure out the difference between hit and wild. ill let u know if it works
What's this technique?
Looks like i missed it...:oops:
someone fill me in!
although i need to get my recall back on track, which means going to bed at a decent hour...:P
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Originally posted by irishcream
What's this technique?
Looks like i missed it...:oops:
someone fill me in!
although i need to get my recall back on track, which means going to bed at a decent hour...:P
ahhh screw that! decent hour hahaha,
HIT is at the very bottom of the tutorials page
Yes. I was talking to one of my adoptions about using HI to enter into a dream. To my suprise there was no tutorial. So I made one.
It is essentially WILD but you use hypnagogic images to lead you into your dream state rather than auto suggestion and the like.
This has been the only way that WILD has worked for me!
Any questions about it PM me if you like. :D
Ok, I tried it last night, and well it was a failure. I got really far though. I did everything until the images started to become animated. The tutorial said not to focus to much attention, but enough so that you don't go to sleep "un"lucid. The first three times, I was paying just enough attention, but I got a bit carried away almost went into sleep and I was like "No I cant I'm Dreaming", but when I did that, I woke up. So that happened like 2 more times, and I kept paying too much attention and woke up again. Then the 4th time I was like I cant pay that much attention or else I'll wake up again, however, I don't know what happened after that, which probably means that I was paying too little attention and fell asleep. Well, I was really close and I'm gonna try again tonight. If anyone else got close, or past that stage, please post your findings.
I just tried this yesterday, my God, it kicks ass! But the thing is when i woke up, my body (arms and feet) were drained, why does this happen? is this suppose to happen? did i do it right? just wondering because it was pretty weird yet cool at the same time.
Howetzer I like that Avatar. For some reason everytime I look at it
I find myself thinking outside of the box... :hrm: go figure huh?
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Originally posted by ShadowNightWing
Howetzer I like that Avatar. For some reason everytime I look at it
I find myself thinking outside of the box... :hrm: go figure huh?
you think that helps? :shock: wait till you free your mind with large amounts of constant drug use! hahaha. there is no spoon, there is no box
[quote]Howetzer
I don't
I miss your old "I'll be waiting" avatar Howie. :( Then again...you didn't like it when I changed my avatar either. :P
Well I never told you this Nina
But Im not too Thrilled about your Avatar. I mean it doesn't fit you. You should get a new one that just shows a pair of long legs with some RED fishnet thigh-high stockings. Now thats the kind of avatar you should have..tehehe...
wow this went off topic fast, neway what did you do, then we can determine if you did it rite, and also it might be normal, since you're going into the dream state conscious, and i have a question for you, how did you get past the part where you have to pay attention to the animated pics, but not too much and not too little, any tips there?Quote:
Originally posted by poetlife21
I just tried this yesterday, my God, it kicks ass! But the thing is when i woke up, my body (arms and feet) were drained, why does this happen? is this suppose to happen? did i do it right? just wondering because it was pretty weird yet cool at the same time.
Wow...yeah that would fit me well. Since I'm a street walker? You have odd taste. A trenchcoat with nothing underneath and boots. :? And you already know I can't stand your avatar. Anyways...I love mine. It suits me just fine if you know anything about me that is.Quote:
Originally posted by ShadowNightWing
Well I never told you this Nina
But Im not too Thrilled about your Avatar. I mean it doesn't fit you. You should get a new one that just shows a pair of long legs with some RED fishnet thigh-high stockings. Now thats the kind of avatar you should have..tehehe...
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Originally posted by ShadowNightWing
Well I never told you this Nina
But Im not too Thrilled about your Avatar. I mean it doesn't fit you. You should get a new one that just shows a pair of long legs with some RED fishnet thigh-high stockings. Now thats the kind of avatar you should have..tehehe...
Hey! I like Nina's avatar! & if that is the one she relates to herself most, she should keep it, so keep that comment to yourself!
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Hey! I like Nina's avatar! & if that is the one she relates to herself most, she should keep it, so keep that comment to yourself!
speaking of avatars....GAH!!!! what the hell is that. an ogre?
WHAT! Shut up idiot grow the fuck up first before you tell who should keep a comment to themselves That was a Fucking joke and Nina knows it You stepped into something that had nothing to do with your dumb ass! Don't fucking do that shit again! Or else Im gonna get pissed and it's not going to be Nice! Fucking Bitch!Quote:
Originally posted by nesgirl119
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Hey! I like Nina's avatar! & if that is the one she relates to herself most, she should keep it, so keep that comment to yourself!
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Originally posted by ShadowNightWing
WHAT! Shut up idiot grow the fuck up first before you tell who should keep a comment to themselves That was a Fucking joke and Nina knows it You stepped into something that had nothing to do with your dumb ass! Don't fucking do that shit again! Or else Im gonna get pissed and it's not going to be Nice! Fucking Bitch!
:o :eek:
Whoa whoa whoa watch the language man! No need to talk to nesgirl that way, can't you be a little nicer? If it really was a joke, then for one thing you don't need to yell at the next person who makes a comment about it, and you certainly don't have to call them a bitch either. If you were in a bad mood or something keep your anger to yourself.Quote:
Originally posted by ShadowNightWing
WHAT! Shut up idiot grow the fuck up first before you tell who should keep a comment to themselves That was a Fucking joke and Nina knows it You stepped into something that had nothing to do with your dumb ass! Don't fucking do that shit again! Or else Im gonna get pissed and it's not going to be Nice! Fucking Bitch!
Okay i can get images and ideas in my head, after relaxing for awhile but no animation. The images go through my head like a slideshow gradually getting faster and faster, what do i have to do to make them animated?
Thanx for standing up for me. IOU ;) :bowdown:Quote:
Originally posted by Tsukin
Whoa whoa whoa watch the language man! No need to talk to nesgirl that way, can't you be a little nicer? If it really was a joke, then for one thing you don't need to yell at the next person who makes a comment about it, and you certainly don't have to call them a bitch either. If you were in a bad mood or something keep your anger to yourself.
Alrighty then! :shakehead2:
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Okay i can get images and ideas in my head, after relaxing for awhile but no animation. The images go through my head like a slideshow gradually getting faster and faster, what do i have to do to make them animated?
Thanks Longest, for getting us back on the topic.
It sounds to me like you are very very close.
What is your status at the point where you have the many fleating images?
Do you drift off into sleep or do you wake up?
[quote]Alrighty then! :shakehead2:
Thanks Longest, for getting us back on the topic.
It sounds to me like you are very very close.
What is your status at the point where you have the many fleating images?
Do you drift off into sleep or do you wake up?
Yea lol i just chose to ignore the fighting. As i lay there images or ideas will pop into my head, the more tired I get the faster the images or ideas flow. They will come and go they are there for a second and they are gone. Yeah my problem is that I fall asleep and I dont know how to enter the dream from those images. But last night I think i got some animations but only for a little bit then they would be gone. I got a vision in my head of characters from a movie i saw last night being interviewed I tried to will myself into that scene but i diddnt know how... THEN my cell phone rang omg this random girl called me with the wrong number for the second time that night i was like wtf...noooo u dont understand..... and she was like oh.... ehurrh god i was so mad. What did i do wrong anyways?
Hey Longest -
Well, for one, you left your cell on!! Can't try WILDing with interruptions - Heh, Heh
You said you tried to will yourself into one of the animations. Well, I think that anytime you make an "effort" of any sort, you're using what I call "alertness energy".
The game:
Try to imagine you're like a game character with an energy bar that goes up and down depending on how "alert" you are. When you're trying to sleep, the object of the game is to get the bar down really low, without it getting to zero. Like somewhere between 2% and 10% (zero meaning you fall asleep - aka, game over!).This "sweet spot" is your only window of opportunity to slip past the zero point without being unconscious - therefore lucid.
The challenge is this:
Try to fend off "jumping into" any imagery untill you reach this 2-10% "sweet spot". Any type of effort on your part will instantly create a "spike" in your alert bar, making you more alert. If you can manage to get to the sweet spot, however, even a short spike will keep you below that certain percentage needed to slip into a WILD (let's just say that point is something like 15-25%). What makes this difficult that the closer you get to zero, the harder it is to remember what you're trying to do.
It's tough, but it's something that I think is luck as well as skill.
Thnx for the help tornado, me and my friend tried it again but god damn carpet cleaners woke us up.
[quote]Alrighty then! :shakehead2:
Thanks Longest, for getting us back on the topic.
It sounds to me like you are very very close.
What is your status at the point where you have the many fleating images?
Do you drift off into sleep or do you wake up?
I didn't mean to drift off topic...sorry Howetzer.. :oops:
As for answering the question, I usually just relax a bit when I look at them, at least until my body falls asleep. Then my mind will, too!
Ok another major problem for me is i get random itches on my body im like sooo soo tempted to itch omg it itches so bad.... and then my arms get sore or my shoulders start to burn what the hell is going on?
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I deleted it for ya ;)
Thnx Aqua, anyways.. when im laying there trying to relax and stay calm like i said before i get random itches and it bugs me really bad, another thing is swallowing my spit does that break concentration? Because I try not to swallow but its hard.
i know whatu mean. i usually have to swallow too. i can make myself not swallow if i try hard enough but it doesnt break my concentration. just do it. it does feel really weird in later stages of wild tho i will admit it
I tried not swallowing but my mouth got really watery and it was hard not to, maybe this was because i drank some water beforehand though. What about random itches do you get that?
Feel free to scratch your itches and swallow when you need to swallow. At this level of consciousness it will not interrupt you too badly and if you try to ignore it, it will just serve to distract you instead and make things worse. Once you get to a point where you are entering WILD you will not have these urges any longer.
Has anyone here actually became lucid from HIT's? Arent HIT's and WILDS two different things? im confused...
basically the same thing. HIt is the method in which you focus on the HI to bring u into the dreamstate rather than just appearing into the dream, i think. very similar indeed
But with the WILD you have to sleep 5-6 hrs then wake up and stay awake for about an hour right?.
that is the proven best technique for a wild yes. research has shown that timing method to greatly increase the chances of an LD.
i wouldnt personally let that be the only circumstance in which you attempt a wild. i suggest not only trying that for sure daily, but also before bed and any other time during the day that you feel you can manage it in. if for no other reason then to get used to doing WILDs, and so you are more prepared come a true wild attempt.
What if you dont use the timing technique and you get a LD are they less vivid?
i think the only reason for waiting is just to greatly increase the chances of having an LD. once your in the LD you can do various things to make it more vivid like rubbing your hands or closely examining an object. they are among the most popular known techniques.
Voice commands also work pretty well. Saying things like "increase vividness now", or "increase lucidity", etc while you are in an LD.
Yeah you can try to WILD any time of day or night...but there are certain times where it is more likely to succeed that's all. And I don't get the difference between this HIT thing and a WILD either I always follow the HI into my lucid dream when I WILD, that's like one of the major steps of the WILD.
Okay I tried the hit technique when i was extremely tired, the only reason i stayed awake was because i was counting like 1...i am dreaming 2.......i am dreaming but since i was so concentrated on that I dont think the HIT's came, so then i stopped counting for a little bit and saw images but felt my self slipping to sleep. By this time I think i was very close to the mind awakee/body asleep stage because I diddnt feel a thing and diddnt hear anything either just thoughts in my head. So how do you do the counting thing while HIT's are appearing?
Ok first of all quit calling it HITs ok...it's HI - short for hypnogogic imagery. HIT is just the technique where you follow the HI into your lucid (which is the same thing as a WILD anyway :roll: )
I've suggested this to a few people...instead of doing the counting thing try singing a song in your head instead. I find that it's a hell of alot less boring than counting and it doesn't keep you too conscious and allows you to slip into the HI better. Once you reach HI you should just go along with it and follow it into your dream. You should be conscious at this point...and the song you were singing in your head may actually start playing as if you were hearing it on the radio. Anyway that's all for now. Yeah. Good luck.
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Originally posted by Aquanina
Ok first of all quit calling it HITs ok...it's HI - short for hypnogogic imagery. HIT is just the technique where you follow the HI into your lucid (which is the same thing as a WILD anyway :roll: )
I've suggested this to a few people...instead of doing the counting thing try singing a song in your head instead. I find that it's a hell of alot less boring than counting and it doesn't keep you too conscious and allows you to slip into the HI better. Once you reach HI you should just go along with it and follow it into your dream. You should be conscious at this point...and the song you were singing in your head may actually start playing as if you were hearing it on the radio. Anyway that's all for now. Yeah. Good luck.
I don't know where the counting thing came into play. The object is to use visual images to lead you into a lucid dream. Yes, it has similarilties to a WILD because you are entering directly into a dream state.
But counting or singing a song may work but it is not the HIT technique. The object of this technique is to fixate on the images, hynagogic images.