Wild Naps Vs. Wild In The Morning

The art of WILD is something I really want to learn; if one can get past the massive starting hurdles, it seems WILD would be a very consistent way to LD. It also seems to me that WILD would be more effective with somebody having difficulty falling asleep. However, much advice about WILD, at least to me, seems to contradict itself. Maybe that's just because different techniques work for different people, but still...

I've read that is is extremely difficult to WILD in bed at night, but works pretty well after waking in the morning (WBTB). However, I've also read (Lucidity Institute) that it is possible to WILD during an afternoon nap, after hours of being awake, and in fact is fairly effective! How can this work for afternoon naps but not at night?

Hypnotic Imagery puzzles me as well. I've tried to WILD and have felt the "numbness" often described and maybe even a little paralysis, but not once have I seen HI. I dunno if this is normal or if I'm doing something wrong...

I don't wish to ask a bunch of noobie questions, but these are questions I have after reading and trying the tutorials on WILD. Can somebody help?

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Originally Posted by Richter

The art of WILD is something I really want to learn; if one can get past the massive starting hurdles, it seems WILD would be a very consistent way to LD. It also seems to me that WILD would be more effective with somebody having difficulty falling asleep. However, much advice about WILD, at least to me, seems to contradict itself. Maybe that's just because different techniques work for different people, but still...

I've read that is is extremely difficult to WILD in bed at night, but works pretty well after waking in the morning (WBTB). However, I've also read (Lucidity Institute) that it is possible to WILD during an afternoon nap, after hours of being awake, and in fact is fairly effective! How can this work for afternoon naps but not at night?[/b]

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Ever heard of REM sleep? When you first go to sleep at night, you have to go through non-REM and other sleep cycles first, in which you hardly to not dream at all. WILDing won't succeed until you get a dream. It will work at night, but for most people (I say most cause I know some people can do it without going straight into REM) it's near impossible. You'd have to wait for 90 minutes + time to fall asleep, approx. If you've slept 4.5+ hours before trying to WILD (so, in the morning when waking up, or if you set your alarm for like 5-6 hours after you think you'll fall asleep) you'll go straight into REM - straight into a dream.
If you nap, you go straight into REM as well. :) In this case, your body thinks "Oh, he's only going to nap - it'll not be a large amount of sleep, so I'll just skip to the important phases" (or something like that). If you go to sleep at night, your body will know you are going to sleep for the night, thus it will have the non-dreaming phases as well.

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Hypnotic Imagery puzzles me as well. I've tried to WILD and have felt the "numbness" often described and maybe even a little paralysis, but not once have I seen HI. I dunno if this is normal or if I'm doing something wrong...

I don't wish to ask a bunch of noobie questions, but these are questions I have after reading and trying the tutorials on WILD. Can somebody help?
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Not everybody has HI. The numbness is one of the first things, and it often happens within 5 minutes. It's nothing special when WILDing. Myself, I've laid there for 40 minutes, twice - no HI.

I didn't know that when napping the body tends to go into REM right away. Thank you! :bowdown:

man! that even helped me out! lol tweak u know ur stuff!

mad! thanx for that lol im going try it in the afternoon too... any idea on how late is too late when trying to WILD in the afternoon tho?