Sorry! Need Help

Printable View

02-07-2007, 01:24 AM
Mc23

I have a couple questions.

1. Do you get tired when you exert effort in a dream? (What i mean is that when you have a lucid dream and do something does it tire your body?)

2. If you talk in your sleep, like me, when you talk in a lucid dream does that get itself heard outside the dream?

3. Can you lose control in a lucid dream while still lucid and not be able to control what you influence? (like if i had lucid dream and now i can't control what is made like sharks, and other evil stuff)

Anything else you have to say, realated or otherwise, is appreciated.
02-07-2007, 02:56 AM
The Blue Meanie

Hiya Mc23! I've sent you a PM too, but I thought I'd take a stab at answering your questions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mc23

1. Do you get tired when you exert effort in a dream? (What i mean is that when you have a lucid dream and do something does it tire your body?)[/b]

I don't, no. But I'm not sure about other people. What exactly do you mean, though...? Do you mean, getting tired in the dream because of effort in the dream, or getting tired in real-life when you wake because of effort in your dream?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mc23

2. If you talk in your sleep, like me, when you talk in a lucid dream does that get itself heard outside the dream?
[/b]

Can't answer this with 100% certainty, but I'd say that in most cases, no. Sleep talking and sleepwalking occur, for the most part, when you are in the slow eye movement, deep sleep phase of sleep, where as dreams that you remember come from REM periods. So, the lucid dreams you will/have had will occur in a different phase of sleep, and at a different time, to any sleep talking, for most times that you talk in your sleep. But That's not to say that you can't sleep talk while dreaming - in particularly light sleep, it is possible, and something I've done myself, particularly when going to sleep and waking up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mc23

3. Can you lose control in a lucid dream while still lucid and not be able to control what you influence? (like if i had lucid dream and now i can't control what is made like sharks, and other evil stuff)[/b]

Control is largely about perception. You can loose lucidity in a dream, and you can gain or loose control as well. But, the amount of control you have, is largely associated with how much control you BELIEVE you have. Does that make sense?

Does anyone have any other answers?
02-07-2007, 03:29 AM
Ne-yo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mc23

1. Do you get tired when you exert effort in a dream? (What i mean is that when you have a lucid dream and do something does it tire your body?)[/b]

There are two factors here. Number (1) it's different for many lucid dreamers. I've heard of some people getting tired after have a Long REM with full Lucidity during that REM. They were not really physically tired but more or less like Mentally exhausted. I've been there myself. The second (2) thing is sometimes it really depends on how much you put out in your dreams. For some people they can do a lot of things in a dream and not feel the least bit of fatigue when they awaken, for others it's quite the opposite. So it all depends on the individual. One other thing to keep in mind is the excitement level. If you are extremely excited throughout the Lucid Dream then there could be a chance of you awaken feeling like you just ran a mile. But it's all cool and worth it especially during extended Lucid Periods. :content:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mc23

2. If you talk in your sleep, like me, when you talk in a lucid dream does that get itself heard outside the dream?[/b]

I really don't think so. I believe speach is far more compressed within the Lucid Dream, I think it has a lot to do with your subconscious as well. The subconscious is extremely powerful so during normal dreams while the subconscious is at it's peak then its pretty much effortless for it to make you vocal during your dream. However considering in a lucid dream the subconscious is slighty dormant then this ability is also more surpressed. So I don't think it can happen in a lucid dream unless you concentrate hard enough to do it intentionally.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mc23

3. Can you lose control in a lucid dream while still lucid and not be able to control what you influence? (like if i had lucid dream and now i can't control what is made like sharks, and other evil stuff)[/b]

No I really don't think it's possible while being lucid. If you lose control of the dream content then chances are you are not at a high level of lucidity. It's possible to experience low level lucidity and not have any control at all. But during high levels your conscious is at the peak of the dream stage and you are fully aware just like in waking life. Losing control will basically intell that you have regressed to normal dreaming thus your Subconscious is in control. The key for me has always been focus. It is really easy to slip back into normal dreaming. I think sometimes your subconscious sets you up a lot to break your concentration just to throw you back into normal dreaming. So you have to focus and don't let anything break your concentration. I don't know if it's the same with everyone else. But usually when I gain Lucidity from WILD I seem to have more control then when I acknowledge automatically, However when I acknowledge while Im in the dream (just recognizing that Im dreaming from the dream) then my control efforts doesn't require as much effort. It's easier to control lucidity for me if I recongize Im dreaming from the dream. Also my Lucidity is more stable this way. When I enter from WILD it's becomes easily broken after a short while in the Lucid Dream and it's mostly because something breaks my concentration and I regress back to normal dreaming. Well hopefully that helped some .

Good luck and Happy Lucid's :goodjob2: