Too tired to care

I'm starting to try WILDs at 4 am, I did one at like 10 pm before, but anyways... When I woke up at 4 am, I was like, I'm too tired to do anything, and I have no real motive. Also, I'm a bit scared cause I usually wake up from a dream at that time, and my last one didn't end well.... I then go to sleep normally and have like another dream or 2, and I ALWAYS don't know I'm dreaming, Its crazy. How can I be that stupid in dreams?!

Although, I had one dream (last night, 2nd day of 4am wake ups), where I was thinking of dreaming, and my view started to get blurrier, hinting that I entered a dream state. I jumped all around for 3 seconds so excited that I actually had a dream (inside a that dream , its weird) but then I woke up... WHY DIDN'T I REMEMBER TO STAY CALM.. why the hell don't I think when I'm in a normal dream?!? (excuse my language). I know to stay calm in a dream... but when I'm in it, I lose my mind sorta. Anybody feel my pain?! Its just that all rational thoughts in dreams for me go down the potty!

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Well... if we were intelligent in normal dreams, most of them would be lucid and Dreamviews would have no purpose. That's why we're here... to help you get lucid.
I also have a hard time WBTBing. Until I got my first LD. You may not be motivated now, but once you get your first good lucid, you'll be dying to get up at 4am and WILD :D

Im also finding it hard to do HI at that time, I just can't focus realy. Any suggestions?

I've always wanted to WILD when I wake up in the middle of the night but never do because I'm too tired and don't care at that point. It's like in broad daylight how you can say how you won't be scared if you go into a haunted house or whatever and then when it's dark you'd wish you never said anything. When I wake up in the middle of the night I just think about lucid dreaming for a second and then fall asleep. It helped me end a huge dry spell. All I did was think about lucid dreaming quick and then fell asleep. I didn't WILD, it was more that maybe my mind thought about it more and I got one later on. The first couple times you get an LD with a new method you will be excited. In most Lds you don't think rationally like you would in real life. Next time you will probably not get as excited and will get better.

It's cool that you WILDed at 10. I've never got a WILD but try before sleep sometimes.

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Originally Posted by ThePhobiaViewed

In most Lds you don't think rationally like you would in real life. Next time you will probably not get as excited and will get better.

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Err, about the thinking rationally part. I know in normal dreams, its different, you go along with the flow of everything and don't question... but how can you say that about lucid dreaming? Its like you are conscious 100% of the time, form wake to sleep, how can u become irrational without your mind falling asleep. I know you might be excited, but I'm not too sure about the irrational part. People do have reality checks and do things such as spinning to prolong the dream... which you'd never think of in a normal one.

I could see that you're a bit less irrational, but not normal dream irrational. I need to keep on trying WILDs to find out, I know in SP you're perfectly sane btw. Can anyone with LD experience please explain your thought processes during LDs?

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Originally Posted by KingRoyw

Err, about the thinking rationally part. I know in normal dreams, its different, you go along with the flow of everything and don't question... but how can you say that about lucid dreaming? Its like you are conscious 100% of the time, form wake to sleep, how can u become irrational without your mind falling asleep. I know you might be excited, but I'm not too sure about the irrational part. People do have reality checks and do things such as spinning to prolong the dream... which you'd never think of in a normal one.

I could see that you're a bit less irrational, but not normal dream irrational. I need to keep on trying WILDs to find out, I know in SP you're perfectly sane btw. Can anyone with LD experience please explain your thought processes during LDs?

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When you sleep, many conscious parts of your brain turn off. When you become lucid, some of these re-activate. But since you really are still dreaming, your brain isn't fully activated.
This results in some irrationality, but mostly, you are very easily distracted.
WILDs tend to have less of this, as you go directly from awake to asleep. But since you're still dreaming, it's still there.