Having bad trouble sleeping...

Trouble falling asleep…

(I am a new LD’er)

I cannot fall asleep regularly anymore, for the 3rd night in a row. This is seriously starting to affect my day as I do not get enough sleep. Instead of listing problems, I will give you what happened for all three nights then you decide:

Night 1: Thought I was having SP doing MILD and freaked out, more on this in the post “Important Questions, please help…” (Warning: Long Post) this is probably where it all started. It was more the fact that I shouldn’t be getting SP than that I actually “did” (although if you read the post it was circumstantial noises) However, some people have suggested I did in fact pass into SP. Anyway, I could barely sleep for the rest of the night, every time I felt sleep start to “wash” over me, I woke up, heart pounding. I gave up on Ld but I could still get no rest.

Night 2: Psyched about doing FILD all day, but come night I would not fall asleep in the first place. When I did, after much music, podcasts and self-talk, I woke up from my WBTB alarm. Then it kicked in. Why doesn’t FILD cause SP? Why should I take a chance? I was tired and worried, so I tried to fall asleep, and after 3 hours I did.

Night 3: This was the night I got the least sleep. Strange, I was a lot more confident in myself than previous nights, but the combination of LD excitement and the still lurking fear produced the same effect. I was awake for about 2-3 hours before I fell asleep. I woke up (presumably from a dream, but I don’t recall) and started shaking uncontrollably. (Not from fear, just general excitement) Anyway, I started hearing things, voices, “cracks” in the wall, footsteps… (I don’t know why I freak out at night, during the day I would kick any malevolent beings ass) This was before my WBTB alarm sounded. When I finally calmed down enough to try and get to sleep, the Sandman would bide his time at a whopping 4 hours before I could get to sleep again. During this time, as Night 1, every time I felt sleep washing over me, I would hear really weird noises, or twitch, or just in general excite myself awake. I gave up on Ld and tried to go to bed long before… (Still trying FILD, I think it’s the ticket) So, staying up for 7 long hours and trying to relax, not to look over my shoulder every time I hear breathing, etc. was exhausting.

Notes: On Night 3, I was very confident in myself and at ease when I first went to bed, I learned to trust my subconscious and it apparently trusted me back… (Note that I am pretty scientific when it comes to things like dreaming, but I know my subconscious is the important part of LD and normal mental health)

Also, if you think I am having SP and am just jerking myself out of it, please let me know… It never came naturally.

All help appreciated!

PS: During all "SP" even the shaking, I had full body control. I never heard any excessively weird noises or violent vibration.,,

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Interesting, but the point is I am afraid of SP, and a WILD induction is not something I am familiar with controlling.

it sounds like you are taking LDing (or the thought of it) way too seriously. Perhaps you should take a break from trying to LD until the weekend or save it for those days where you don't have to get up early the next morning.

My meditation technique doesn't have to be used for WILDing and if you move every ten breaths or so (just your leg or something) you won't enter sleep paralysis. I wrote it to help people clear their minds. WILDing is just an added bonus.

Well, I did take a 2 day break for lucid dreaming, (I was sick) and now I feel fully ready for anything. SP, come what will. The only problem is, lucid dreaming is looking a little far-off now, none of my FILDS or MILDS have been successful yet. I feel MILD is too mild, I need a more hands on (no pun intended) way of lucid induction, and FILD seems perfect, though no matter how tired I am it always keeps me awake. I am anxious to get it to work, but my dream recall is pretty bad. (3 recalls in the past week) I suppose I should get that up, as if I do lucid but never remember it, it technically never happened.

As a side note, I was laying in bed thinking about that a while ago, as you never "experience" dreams so much as remember them... So, technically, as soon as you go to sleep, you wake up with a memory of something. Therefore dreaming is sort of intangible thing, as you never really "live" it, if you get my point. I have never LD'd intentionally though, so I may be wrong... (Make that probably)