Are there any more convienient LD types?

Hi, new here and have a question.

It seems like all of the LDS like WILDs and WBTBs all require you to wake up inn the middle of the night, which i am restrained from doing.

I was just wondering if there were any LD methods that you can use when going to bed at a normal time like 10 pm.

I know there is the DILD but it seems like I cant really control DILDS since they happen in your dream by chance unlike WILD which you do yourself with your concious mind.

If anyone could help, thatd be great! :)

(p.s. Ive had 3 Ld's all DILDS but they seemed to happen at random and werent very long at all.)

DEILD, MILD and FILD require waking up, but not for very long. That's all I can suggest. And of course you could WILD in the afternoon.

There are also various aids to make you more likely to DILD, such as setting recordings to go off during the night, binaural beats and so on (not that anyone's managed to make them work consistently or anything).

With waking up in the middle of the night, it doesn't have to be to an alarm clock. If you can train yourself to get up after you wake up naturally during the night, that would work as well. At the same time, keep in mind that waking yourself up is only one part of the process and not always necessary, depending on the person.

Take a look at the reality checks tutorial. Getting into the habit of questioning the world around you when you're awake will trickle over into your dreams and you will be more likely to catch some detail(s) that is/are out of place and could trigger lucidity. Ask yourself if what's going on at this point in time makes sense and if it doesn't, it's possible that you're dreaming.

Dream (re-)entry (DEILD) is another possibility and it worked a bit for me even before I knew what lucid dreaming was. Look into that as well.

As long as you learn how to reality check properly, you should be able to have some very nice DILDs and to control them, just takes a little practice but doesn't require messing around with your sleep schedule at all.

Classic DILD, MILD, and possibly DEILD for when you naturally wake up out of dreams.

If you ever get a chance to sleep in on a lazy weekend, go for some DEILDs. They can be really mindbending and fun. Other than that, try reality checks and logging dream signs as other people have already suggested.

Waking up in the middle of the night doesn't have to be a big production. You don't even have to leave your bed. If you can just train yourself to notice your natural brief midnight awakenings, you can use them to MILD. You wake up several times throughout the night anyways, just to roll over and forget it ever happened.

Reality checks are awesome. For me they are impossible to remember consistently though. Get one of those watches that beeps every hour on the hour. Every time it beeps, do a reality check. When your trained to do so it can occur in your sleep.

By the way, I found that technique a long time ago, I can take no credit for it.

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Originally Posted by UnadoptedPuppy

Reality checks are awesome. For me they are impossible to remember consistently though. Get one of those watches that beeps every hour on the hour. Every time it beeps, do a reality check. When your trained to do so it can occur in your sleep.

By the way, I found that technique a long time ago, I can take no credit for it.

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I find it's far more effective when you learn to remember them yourself. Your watch probably isn't going to beep in your dream.

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Originally Posted by paragon

I find it's far more effective when you learn to remember them yourself. Your watch probably isn't going to beep in your dream.

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Thats not quite what I meant. While sleeping you, still will hear the beep. If you are "trained" to react to it unconsciously, if you are lucid you will perform a reality check.

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Originally Posted by UnadoptedPuppy

Thats not quite what I meant. While sleeping you, still will hear the beep. If you are "trained" to react to it unconsciously, if you are lucid you will perform a reality check.

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That depends partly on how deeply you sleep. If the beep can carry over into your dream it would probably work. If it doesn't carry over, I suppose there's a slim chance that you would hear it and remember to RC in your dream... Personally, I could never hear the beep in the night when I had a watch that beeped. That was before I started trying to LD though.

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Originally Posted by Hidden

That depends partly on how deeply you sleep. If the beep can carry over into your dream it would probably work. If it doesn't carry over, I suppose there's a slim chance that you would hear it and remember to RC in your dream... Personally, I could never hear the beep in the night when I had a watch that beeped. That was before I started trying to LD though.

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Then it varies from person to person.

Either way, it's still worth a shot because it can be effective if you are lucky enough to have it work.

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Originally Posted by UnadoptedPuppy

Then it varies from person to person.

Either way, it's still worth a shot because it can be effective if you are lucky enough to have it work.

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Yes, I agree with you. I just think it would be a good idea to find out if you can hear the beeps while you're asleep before devoting large amounts of time to it.

You might regret it - but drink enough liquids that make you need to pee, and have bathroom dreams, but not enough to make you pee the bed LOL. Although you might have to wake up for one of these which is what you Don't want to do right? OK, um, do reality checks while in the bathroom, but only if you're going to try this technique. At least for me, I always have bathroom dreams, where I can't find one, people are looking at me, you know it's just weird. Try this technique to get a feel for a LD. Unless you have a hard time holding it in, I wouldn't do it.

P.S. I've tried the beeping watch technique, but it's either only twice on the hour, which isn't enough for you to register in your brain. Or you set an alarm and it goes off every 5 minutes, which won't go off until you turn it off, which interrupts your sleep, wheather you know it or not. Also, if you have your hands under the sheets or you're lying on your watch you won't hear it. NOT effective at all - at least for me. It's not strong enough for most people. RCs are a better and stronger way to get the hang of LDing.

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Originally Posted by Naturally Lucid

You might regret it - but drink enough liquids that make you need to pee, and have bathroom dreams, but not enough to make you pee the bed LOL. Although you might have to wake up for one of these which is what you Don't want to do right? OK, um, do reality checks while in the bathroom, but only if you're going to try this technique. At least for me, I always have bathroom dreams, where I can't find one, people are looking at me, you know it's just weird. Try this technique to get a feel for a LD. Unless you have a hard time holding it in, I wouldn't do it.

P.S. I've tried the beeping watch technique, but it's either only twice on the hour, which isn't enough for you to register in your brain. Or you set an alarm and it goes off every 5 minutes, which won't go off until you turn it off, which interrupts your sleep, wheather you know it or not. Also, if you have your hands under the sheets or you're lying on your watch you won't hear it. NOT effective at all - at least for me. It's not strong enough for most people. RCs are a better and stronger way to get the hang of LDing.

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Hahaha this sounds like it might work, I will give this a go!

i have this problem too