LD Induction?

I think I had two lucid dreams,and im pretty sure how I got them.

First off, I woke up too early and went back to sleep. So my first lucid dream involved me jumping off of a cliff. I remember trying to tell myself not to wake up while I was falling, and while I was falling I was enjoying it and it was so much fun. When I hit the ground I did not wake up, like I usually do.

Would this be a lucid dream because I must have known that falling off a cliff wouldn't kill me, but I enjoyed it instead?

For my second lucid dream, I remember waking up too early once again, and then while I was falling back asleep, I remember trying to concentrate hard on creating another lucid dream where I would fall. Then my dream started with me riding an elevator to the top of a very tall building, and then I pressed the "down" button and did a free-fall and hit the ground, but did not wake up.

Both of these seem to me like lucid dreams because I enjoyed the fall in the first dream and created the second dream so I would fall. And both times I woke up, was tired, and went back to sleep. Is this the best way to get lucid dreams for most people? Also, for my second dream I felt like I had to concentrate hard to get the dream to take shape. I literally "thought" my dream while semi-awake and it happened. Is this lucid dreaming as well?

If someone could answer both questions I would really appreciate it.

I can't say on the first dream.
The fact that you had to form the second dream from nothing is proof enough to me that it was lucid. I have had to do this several times in the past, when I would enter a lucid state, but I was not actually dreaming, and I had to basically create a dream.

sounds like DEILD works for you.
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=62769

i've done something similar in the past, and i guess you could call these LDs (or at least the second one) - you realized there was no danger in what you were doing and created a dream scene.

If you knew you were actually dreaming while they happened, then they were lucid dreams. In the first, simply not fearing isn't really enough, but you did mention that you told yourself not to wake up, which implies you knew you were sleeping and probably dreaming, which would make it a lucid dream.

In the second, unless you knew you were dreaming during the elevator ride or fall, then you weren't lucid. It's possible to not be afraid, to cause yourself to dream about things, and still not be lucid. You have to know and understand that you're dreaming in order to be lucid.

Yea if you were conscious during the dream it was lucid if not it was not.