Opposite of LDS / Lucid Aids?

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10-12-2009, 05:29 AM
AdMireD_Cru3l

Opposite of LDS / Lucid Aids?

I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but i tried to look for it, and didn't find anything, so here goes...
I have heard about, and I'm sure you all have too, about certain things that will help make your dreams more vivd and stuff like that. I believe these are called Lucid Dream Supplements/ Lucid Aids.
What I want to ask, if there is anything, which will work directly opposite to what LDS do? Like preventing dream recall, foggy dreams, and lesser lucidity?
Are there any things, which if we eat, will lower our chances to get an LD?
10-12-2009, 06:09 AM
Conkt

I've heard most illicit drugs and alcohol inhibit REM. So do sleeping pills. I don't think any food does, though.
10-12-2009, 07:37 AM
DeeryTheDeer

Any supplements/herbs/foods that are effective in increasing non-REM deep sleep (such as sleeping pills or some anti-depressants) will inhibit REM sleep (dreams) in every way.
10-12-2009, 01:42 PM
gameover

Eating too close to bed time can make it harder. As mentioned, drugs and alcohol. Marijuana is no good. I think bad sleep habits in general. Too much light before bed is harmful as Melatonin distribution in your body is controlled by light. If you eat dinner at 6 and you're going to bed at a good time (9:30-10:00) and you're calming yourself down before bed, without a a bunch of lights on, then you should be great. Of course I'm pretty sure most people don't do this, but I think it's all you need.
10-12-2009, 02:32 PM
AdMireD_Cru3l

Thanx for the replies!

I don't do drugs and don't drink as well. I am a vegetarian but not a pure one(I consume vegetables dairy products, but stay away from everything else including eggs and fishes).
I have dinner around 8-9 pm and go to bed around 12-2 am (on holidays) or 11-12 pm (on school nights).
I wake up at 6 am on school days and about 10-11 am on holidays (I know I'm lazy, I've completely messed up my time schedules)
I usually never eat anything after I've had dinner.
I sleep in complete darkness.

Wonder if I'm on the right track, but I've few questions...

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Eating too close to bed time can make it harder

About two weeks ago, I was in my bed trying to sleep but couldn't. I was just too hungry so I made a sandwich for myself, ate it and went to sleep. And then I had the best and longest LD I'ver ever had.

Over the past few days, I have noticed in decrease in my Dream Recall, which I consider to be due to following causes, which are the only noticeable changes in my lifestyle in the past few days...

1. Exams
2. Eating too many dry fruits (including almonds and walnuts).

I thought that walnuts contained vitamin b6 and melatonin, both considered to be Lucid Aids. I dunno why it is working against me.

So, can these things actually work against some people, or am I being just too hyper?
10-12-2009, 04:11 PM
Heimrik

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdMireD_Cru3l

I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but i tried to look for it, and didn't find anything, so here goes...
I have heard about, and I'm sure you all have too, about certain things that will help make your dreams more vivd and stuff like that. I believe these are called Lucid Dream Supplements/ Lucid Aids.
What I want to ask, if there is anything, which will work directly opposite to what LDS do? Like preventing dream recall, foggy dreams, and lesser lucidity?
Are there any things, which if we eat, will lower our chances to get an LD?

Yes cafaine (coffe, redbull) will lower your chances of getting a lucid dream, and adranaline to you have to be calm and sleepy. A good time for a lucid dream is after taking a shower, because you feel relaxed and as your body dries again you feel relaxed and a bit sleepy.
10-12-2009, 04:14 PM
Heimrik

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdMireD_Cru3l

Thanx for the replies!

I don't do drugs and don't drink as well. I am a vegetarian but not a pure one(I consume vegetables dairy products, but stay away from everything else including eggs and fishes).
I have dinner around 8-9 pm and go to bed around 12-2 am (on holidays) or 11-12 pm (on school nights).
I wake up at 6 am on school days and about 10-11 am on holidays (I know I'm lazy, I've completely messed up my time schedules)
I usually never eat anything after I've had dinner.
I sleep in complete darkness.

Wonder if I'm on the right track, but I've few questions...

About two weeks ago, I was in my bed trying to sleep but couldn't. I was just too hungry so I made a sandwich for myself, ate it and went to sleep. And then I had the best and longest LD I'ver ever had.

Over the past few days, I have noticed in decrease in my Dream Recall, which I consider to be due to following causes, which are the only noticeable changes in my lifestyle in the past few days...

1. Exams
2. Eating too many dry fruits (including almonds and walnuts).

I thought that walnuts contained vitamin b6 and melatonin, both considered to be Lucid Aids. I dunno why it is working against me.

So, can these things actually work against some people, or am I being just too hyper?

If you want a big chance of having a lucid dream you should probably sleep longer, but if you want a WILD (wake induced lucid dream) you should sleep like 7 hours or less and then in the day or after 3 hours go to bed again its a better chance for a lucid dream I read. Some products may be good for the one and bad for the other so.. Oh and stress is a big decreaser in dream recall, when your stressed you cant focus to well on remembering your dreams (thats why grown ups dream less)
10-12-2009, 04:20 PM
O'nus

I believe you are seeking Lucid Aids;
+ http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...splay.php?f=44

I will leave this thread here either way for the sake of direction.

Hope it helps!

~
10-12-2009, 06:33 PM
AdMireD_Cru3l

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heimrik

If you want a big chance of having a lucid dream you should probably sleep longer, but if you want a WILD (wake induced lucid dream) you should sleep like 7 hours or less and then in the day or after 3 hours go to bed again its a better chance for a lucid dream I read.

Thanx for the advice man, I'd really try to get better and organized sleep pattern.

Quote:

Originally Posted by O'nus

I believe you are seeking Lucid Aids;
+ http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...splay.php?f=44

Thanx for the link, it looks really useful :D

I just have one more question, can't believe I forgot to ask this before :bang:
One more change that I have had in my lifestyle in the past few days, that "might" have affected my dream recall, is lack of physical exercise. I've done almost nil exercise in past 2 weeks.
Does exercise really affects dream recall and LDing abilities? I was getting pretty good in recalling my dreams earlier, and now it has been a dry spell for a while.
10-12-2009, 06:55 PM
Andywarski

hey here is how I have vivid dreams. I find when I take my viatimin b6 pill that I take every night one hour before bed my dreams are more clear and make more sense (even though they usually don't make sense anyway) but my dreams do follow a more plot rather then jump around a lot. Alcohal definitly does mess with dreams and I can saftly say that because I got drunk last night and can barly remember my dream. Weed I find doesn't effect me unless I don't take my B6 pill. Being super tired messes up my chances of being lucid so if I cannot help it I'll wake up in the morning, chill for a bit and even have a coffee then go back to bed and easily become lucid. I saw that someone said caffine lowers your chance of becoming lucid which I do not agree with. I have gone lucid with coffee when I WILD many times this past month. Anyways good luck!
10-12-2009, 07:43 PM
kr3wskater

Marijuana actually causes rem rebound, meaning if you get enough sleep you will have very vivid dreams in the time before you wake up.

The best way to aid lucidity isn't through any pills, supplements or smokes, it's through meditation and awareness.