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      I heard the other day that weed is officially illegal in every country now since Amsterdam criminalized it there. Thats kinda Off-Topic though I guess, since this is a lucid dreaming forum.
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      Oh, sorry i dont know the laws in america. Its legal is it?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lucidness View Post
      Oh, sorry i dont know the laws in america. Its legal is it?
      What?
      No it isn't, it is a federal crime, meaning that up until recently; even if a state legalized it, you could still get busted by feds. Obama fixed that problem though.


      It is illegal here in the US. Which is just stupid because my addiction to prescription pills was way worse than my addiction to pot [as nonexistent as it is]

      Anyhow; UPDATE: I was able to remember even more of my dreams this morning. Although since I went to bed late I think I had only two

      I am going to take a nap this afternoon... which I NEVER do.
      Have any of you had luck dreaming in the middle of the day?

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      Why did you take pot then if it was illegal? Sorry for acting dumb.

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      I had my first lucid dream during the day. I can usually remember 99% of my dreams when I take a nap. Short or long..

      And 'Lucidness'. Do you have some hate towards pot? Seems like you are really against it. It's just a plant. Who cares if it's illegal, So is speeding. It's our lives..
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      Fair enough.

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      Not trying to offend you or anything. I just don't like how people assume it's like every other bad drug out there
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      i think that it's great that you're quitting. in my personal experience it's best if you take breaks from MJ every so often to help you get a 'larger perspective' on things, or if you've got exams or something like that in the near future -- especially if you are/were a heavy smoker.

      one suggestion: definitely record your dreams/recall etc to confirm that the weed was in fact inhibiting your lucid dreaming experience/REM, just to be scientific about it (and just in case it isn't the main cause).

      i would imagine that engaging in MJ use say every weekend or so would not have a significant effect on dreaming/REM during the week, although it's likely that you'd do most of your sleeping/dreaming over the weekend. either way i don't know how often you used previously

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lucidness View Post
      Weed is illegal.
      lucidness is this all you do man ?? i see you everywer posting useless junk on peoples topics... i mean well no its not really depends where you live..

      just like in england guns are unless you have a licence but if you ended up in a certain couple of mexican or cuba then ive seen prisoners WITH GUNS IN THE CELLS so it wouldnt really be illegal if every1 has one.. ... even grenade's ...there are alot of things which are illegal man u dont need to state the obvius all the damn time !!!

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      Humanity has been consuming the herb for at least 10,000 years and the only residual reason for it's continued illegality is the lack of a monopoly by the powers that be. This is also another reason for it's great support; it feels a bit better supporting your local friends than buying industrialized brain-killers from your local shopper's drug mart. It is even used the world over as a religious sacrament, or a reasoning tool by the Rastafari.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lucidness View Post
      Why did you take pot then if it was illegal? Sorry for acting dumb.
      For the same reason you are asking me this question... because I was bored, it was why I did all of the drugs I did. My drug counselor was always trying to get me to say I had some traumatic experience in my childhood... She never could accept the fact that some people are perfectly content with themselves and who they are, they were just bored and drugs filled that boredom.

      You obviously know this question didn't need to be asked... much like I didn't need to smoke pot.---Make sense?

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      Quote Originally Posted by trev View Post
      i think that it's great that you're quitting. in my personal experience it's best if you take breaks from MJ every so often to help you get a 'larger perspective' on things, or if you've got exams or something like that in the near future -- especially if you are/were a heavy smoker.

      one suggestion: definitely record your dreams/recall etc to confirm that the weed was in fact inhibiting your lucid dreaming experience/REM, just to be scientific about it (and just in case it isn't the main cause).

      i would imagine that engaging in MJ use say every weekend or so would not have a significant effect on dreaming/REM during the week, although it's likely that you'd do most of your sleeping/dreaming over the weekend. either way i don't know how often you used previously
      I didn't have it ALL the time, but I usually didn't go a week without it, when I had it I smoked three to four times a day; but only after the hour of 6pm.
      I used to be a very very heavy smoker, that last pattern I gave you is incredibly light compared to how I used to smoke.

      Yes I have been keeping a dream journal and I can already see great progress. There are things I will never be able to do in this world; so dreaming is much more important to me. I don't care about being high if I have the option of holding hands with myself while we shoot lasers out of our eyes... destroying the planet... Only to rebuild it... as my goals list ^_^

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      People often are unaware of the presence of Mary herself and will forget or not care to acknowledge the spirit of the plant, I`m in love and will often speak to her personally.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Lucidness View Post
      Why did you take pot then if it was illegal? Sorry for acting dumb.
      I don't favor drugs very much, but that isn't quite the topic of the thread anyway. I'm not a mod obviously but dude..
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      i think a couple days after quitting and you will see vivid dream recall.

      i also think its fair to say if you smoked considerable amounts like you say and like i did as well you might feel a little blah, not hungry type thing (makes sense)for 2 days in my case.

      I quit a few times now for a few months at a time but the first time , i thought, wow this is wicked ,i never should have wasted the last 10 yrs smoking daily, thats how good the dreams were and it brought me here to Dreamviews.


      ive gone back and forth mainly because im weak lol, and i like getting high.

      but you will find your own way ,mix it up a bit.. try mushrooms there really good ... im kidding ...kids dont listen to me
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      Quote Originally Posted by smoke_1966 View Post
      i think a couple days after quitting and you will see vivid dream recall.

      i also think its fair to say if you smoked considerable amounts like you say and like i did as well you might feel a little blah, not hungry type thing (makes sense)for 2 days in my case.

      I quit a few times now for a few months at a time but the first time , i thought, wow this is wicked ,i never should have wasted the last 10 yrs smoking daily, thats how good the dreams were and it brought me here to Dreamviews.


      ive gone back and forth mainly because im weak lol, and i like getting high.

      but you will find your own way ,mix it up a bit.. try mushrooms there really good ... im kidding ...kids dont listen to me
      Well I've done much more than mushrooms, I moved from a very small town to Phoenix arizona at the age of 13, so I discovered a lot of fun things there.

      I have noticed my appetite dropping which has happened in the past.

      Just for reference, I am 19 now, and have moved back to my home state, MI.
      I've also quit multiple times, this will be the last though; I am confident in stating that Mary does not take precedence over my Dreams, I love myself too much to dis-prioritize.

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      It's different for me.. I don't smoke pot or do drugs when I'm bored. I use it as a fun social event with friends. We have shit tons of fun, last time we got blazed and had a firework show. Fucking amazing.

      And if you took 5 minutes of your day, and researched the history of marijuana... you would know it was FALSLY illegalized! Do your research man.. you sound like my fucking mom, Lucidness.


      But anyway, we got horribly off topic, sorta.

      Oh yea, and everytime I went sober for a couple of weeks in the summer when I smoked heavily, I did see a big change in dream recall, and in dreams in general.
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      That big change is exacyly what I'm aiming for Motums.

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      Pleas stay on topic everyone. This isn't a thread to discuss the morality/legality/history behind smoking weed, or any other drug for that matter. Thanks.

      I smoke everyday and have for the past couple years and I have no problem with recall. You just have to practice and build-up your recall. It doesn't have to be a choice between Pot or LDing, but that is just my "two cents." Either way, good luck to you and I hope it works out for ya!

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      My recall came back with a vengence once I quit as well. Prior to quitting I thought the vividity would suffer, but it really hasn't. I noticed the benefits even before I was able to pass a drug test...so I hope you get what you're looking for.

      Quote Originally Posted by Tobi Uchiha
      Have any of you had luck dreaming in the middle of the day?
      Two of my most prolonged and profound lucids happened during unexpected naps. I noticed things that were inconsistent with waking reality much easier and RC'ed much more reliably than in other dreams where my body was much more tired. Even though the inconsistencies were more subtle, my inclination to see them as abnormal seemed to be heightened.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tobi Uchiha View Post
      I am confident in stating that Mary does not take precedence over my Dreams, I love myself too much to dis-prioritize.
      absolutely, theres not a drug in the world that compares to the feeling of being lucid and flying or going thru things or standing on top of the pyramids. the possibilities are endless... woo hoo

      Oh and to King Yoshi ,peanut butter worked like a charm, im going for a nice spoonfull right now bout a half hour before bed
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      I'm Afraid that for me. It's one or the other. I did quit and then a friend gave me a big pound bag full. I decided to stall the quiting for a short time. That was the dumbest thing I could do. As soon as I did, I stopped dreaming. My journal shows a big gab. 1 dream... In a whole week!!! Where I normaly have 3 a night. And I was not "in" the dream. I only remember it after I woke up.

      Damn you Mari J!!!
      It took a while but it started to dawn,
      that between then and dusk all my dreams are gone :-(

      oh well I know what I have to do....
      I'm gonna give back a pound of free weed. I would have never believed it if you told me an year ago :-p
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      awesome..
      eeehhhh kinda can't say much more than that because I've never had the stuff before... though i'm glad you're finding something else that is legal, at least. ;P
      good luck dude

      Quote Originally Posted by Tobi Uchiha
      Thanks, I had no idea pot was illegal. lol : What better reason to quit, cause in my dreams it happens to be legal.
      lool

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      Quote Originally Posted by Smokey.Skywatcher View Post
      I'm gonna give back a pound of free weed.



      Thanks, I had no idea pot was illegal. lol : What better reason to quit, cause in my dreams it happens to be legal.
      What the.. how would you not know?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Motumz View Post





      What the.. how would you not know?
      sarcasm dude....
      Law abiding citizen by day, breaking the laws of reality by night.
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