Some Question and Introduction

Hi I am Daytona(male that is) after the city. And I've been lucid dreaming occasionaly since I can remember. But not very often, it just happens the one or the other time.

I recently, had a DILD in which I suddenly became aware without a reason that it was a dream, immediatly I concentrated at the scenery and DC's around me, just to get a feeling about the level of reality it had within. And I was amazed. Well the dream started to slip, which I recognized by the blurred vision I had suddenly, but I could save it by just concentrating to the visual imagery and want it to become sharp again. Sadly I forgot the other senses totaly, but I screamed after some guy in front of me, which might have stimulated the auditory sense as well. The dream stabilized, though it was a rather sterile environment, like a plain featureless plain with a road and mountains in the distance.

I read in some of the tutorials of this page, that the brain doesn't like inconsistencies, this is why you can't create stuff in your dreams at will. Well occasionally I don't have problems, forcing my will onto a dream, I achieved things, by just whising it to happen, like growing plants n stuff. But in the afore mentioned dream, I recognized that there were inconsistencies not through what I did, but in the dreamworld itself. My question is, as one recognizes those inconsistencies, while being awake with the part of the brain that processes logical information and checks for continuity, doesn't that awareness destruct a lucid dream per se? Like saw some people and as I turned around just for a moment and when I looked at them again, they were more than before like 2 to a bunch and they were like 30 meters further away. Which I recognized made no sense. But the dream went on nontheless. I even remembered things from the tutorials on how to control dreams in the DILD but somethings didn't work.

I have problems imagining MILD's to work, as I had very vivid dreams before, which I while awake, designed to be a test for the dreamstate which all failed. Everytime I designed a challenge, which I don't know why I actually was able to perform in a non lucid dream. All failed, to have the desired outcome, because the brain allways filled in the expected information for test as expected if one was awake.

Atm I am trying like for month's to use WILD's but it's hard to learn, because I mostly, try to achive, WILD's in the evening when going to bed and not with more effective times of the sleeping pattern.

Cheers Daytona.

I agree that it will be difficult to WILD upon retiring, as you are probably far from a period of REM sleep at that time.

Sounds like you are good at stabilizing lucid dreams! That is excellent.

As for the other, I'm not sure I am understanding--are you saying that if you recognize something in a dream that would be impossible in waking life, you would expect that to end the dream?

I would not necessarily expect that. I would think that if you are lucid, you would be able to think, "Here I am in my dream and I see that man now has two heads, whereas he had three a moment ago." Being lucid should make it easier for you to accept what pops up in your dream, whether or not you try to do something to change it, but again, I'm not sure if I understood your thoughts.

Thanks, I found the advise on stabilizing on the forum tutorials.

There was this DreamViews tutorial about dream control that stated that someone can't or shouldn't at least create things in lucid dreams out of nowhere, because this would create some kind of inconsistency in the dreamworld which ones brain doesn't like and thus it would end the dream soon. But to my understanding a lucid dream happens to become as the side of the brain which is responsible for logical thinking gets activated and thus one is able to get aware that this can only be a dream.
But at the same time I recognize that it is a dream, I would be able to recognize all the things that wouldn't work out in a real environment. And now I am confused, because to me it seems, that dreams are inconsistent all the time, we just don't get it as we dream, so why should the brain care as one does stuff, that brings just a little bit more inconsistency inside an already weird dream. It didn't cared before.

Concerning the things I mentioned from the tutorials that I couldn't get to work. It was not that I tried them to work, but that they differed from how the tutorial said, that dreams work.
The tutorial said, that things get more and more detail and reality as one focuses on it. So on the other hand, things would go away, as they would be ignored. This implies that nightmares would have a funny dynamic on it, since, as one would ignore the theme of the dream it wouldn't be no nightmare no longer. As the monsters would all vanish.
The situation in the dream was like that I thought about the possibility that it could turn into a real nightmare, just by the thought occuring. But the dream didn't change. A good thing if you will, but I expected the dream to follow the dynamic to incoporate what one focuses on and I really focused on the thought, that I wouldn't like it but according to the circumstances it would be very likely. Maybe the I wouldn't like it part of the thought saved the dream from turning.

I hope this helps clarify, if not I will try to explain differently.

Daytona