The fact that I find this adorable... Is it creepily pedophillic or flamingly gay?...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ErA6OeNVIQ
Not just the OP but the series too...
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The fact that I find this adorable... Is it creepily pedophillic or flamingly gay?...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ErA6OeNVIQ
Not just the OP but the series too...
Oh... Kay?
Real men listen to the full 4 minute long version.
Uh, I'm almost positive they are of-age or close to being of-age. They are just drawn in a loli style. I don't see how this would be flamingly gay unless you're one of those anime hater elitists so if anything it'd be pedophillic. And even then that's just from the way they're drawn.
Edit: Also, I'm pretty sure the teacher is a lesbian.
I just think it's a little odd that a find it cute in a strictly platonic way lolSpoiler for Suggestive:
Not really that odd considering that's the point of the showQuote:
Originally Posted by r2d2651
Give this video a sec. XD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlLFNM_1o-8
I suppose so, but based on my gender sign I assume it would be odd to most folks..Quote:
Originally Posted by Keresztanya
It's only odd to those who don't watch Anime occasionally and see that they look underage.
I watched the first 3 episodes and I just found it plain boring and confusing. Silly show.
The police officer looks like a child.
Even old ladies look like children in anime.
hehehe.. Do you like seinfeld?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvo
I find the characters in Lucky Star to be attractive.
So yeah, probably pedophillic.
Perhaps it's just very feminine? I think, really, it's just trying to be cute. Cute is childlike. Childlike is cute. Pedophiles like childlike, so they like cute. Aye?
You're quite worried you have pedophillic tendencies, aren't you? :V A lot of people find that show cute, and they're definitely not all pedophiles. And I haven't ever heard anyone say it's gay before o.O
>Hey guys I'm fucking this baby, it's ok though, because the baby is actually 18, just is a baby in every other way, but it's ok, I'm not a pedophile guysQuote:
Originally Posted by slayer
So if they aren't real, does that still technicaly make you a pedophile if you like them?
Edit: Just wondering for the people who do like them.
If I have to choose between the two i.e., either 'gay' or 'pedophilic', I'ma go with pedophilic, since the only person I know who was obsessed enough to have LS wall paper was into lolicon. :p
Edit: See also, I'm the 'gay' one between us... And I don't, like Lucky Star. Pbbt.
The last half of that sentence made no sense to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grod
it's just a thing, guys, just a thing
Yeah, just a thing he wants to put in the little girl's thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by nerve
I was more watching the translitteration, but I liked the song :P
I jsut saw the translation in the lower left, lol. Still doesn't bother me, though some things could be taken as innuendos
I think that, if anything, shows like that are extremely patronizing to women, how they're so cutesy, demure and ultra-super-feminine all. the. f*cking. time.
I wonder what it's like to be a Japanese teenage girl and have to deal with that sort of crap.
You mean... they're not supposed to?! :shock: :panic:
I think so; After all, pedophiles are simply attracted to the features that little girls have. So if a girl has child-like features that appeals to a pedophile, I don't think it matters whether she 8, 18, 1800 years old, made out of jam, really a monster in disguise or animated, she still looks like a child. And y'know, that part of your brain that determines what is attractive and what is not, doesn't give a flying fuck how many years the girl have lived, or if they even have lived at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crow360
Also, should have linked this at my first post - I was tired.
I think he means that it still looks like a baby, even if the people who made drew it said she's 18. I think he's right, though. If you're attracted to something that looks like a child, you're a pedophile. But I can't see why he would complain if the girl is really seven hundred years old.Quote:
Originally Posted by slayer
"Adorable" is fine. Puppies are adorable. Kittens are adorable. You can think something is cute without wanting to screw it. Wanting to shag them is where you become a pedophile. And I'm seeing no dudes, so not gay.Quote:
Originally Posted by r2d2651
I need to say that more often.Quote:
Originally Posted by shinta66
Anyways, I'd say more pedo than gay. It doesn't matter if they're actually 18 in the show, they look 12.
This documentary shows the effect of anime on young girls in japan (contains disturbing scenes):Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeryTheDeer
As to the origional question, its not gay, and its fine to think somethings cute. The issue's start when you want to put things inside them i guess.
I saw nothing disturbing. Maybe if I knew Japanese I'd understand what was going on
The idea is that you see a little girl who is "18" so it's a-ok to be attracted to her, because, after all, she's not a little child, she's really 18! It's OK!Quote:
Originally Posted by slayer
Well yeah...there isn't a law against being attracted to someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grod
Well, I think you're a sick fuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by slayer
The point was that if you portray a character as a child in every sense of the word, the artificial label 'adult' doesn't mean anything. It's arbitrary. But I don't really think this is a case for pedophilia, though.
hmmmm interesting... all of it...
That is catchy as shit.
lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Grod
She's not only actually 18. She's also... Not real.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grod
Kind of makes it worse...Quote:
Originally Posted by Maeni
Save your excuses for the guillotine.
Why is it so hard to understand, that in the same way that people can be attracted to other people of the same sex, people can be attracted to other people that are older or younger than them selves? Sure, in some cases, acting on these attractions can be bad, but the attraction is there, and a lot of people need to understand that it is no more a sickness than how homosexuality is a sickness.
What about people that are attracted to animals, are they the same too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvo
that's all I'm trying to say, manQuote:
Originally Posted by dorpis
What. You think it's worse to pursue pedophillic attractions by finding fictive characters in illustrations, instead of going out and finding the real deal?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartiate
I'd say yes. It's all just different orientations. Whether you call them paraphilias, sexualities, orientations, diseases or sicknesses... They're not the same, obviously, but you can't say one is a sickness and another is an orientation, just because you don't like it, or it isn't as accepted, or it is harmful or whatever you think it is, it's still just an attraction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartiate
Why are you so mean? :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Grod
There's no harm finding children attractive, or animals or whatever. As long as it stays on fantasy-level, anything goes.
Any deep attraction to fictional characters can't be healthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maeni
Some attractions (namely between consenting adult humans) can lead to a healthy relationship while others cannot. A gay person's love life is not dysfunctional because he's gay, whereas a pedophile's condition is not only harmful to others but also to himself. Same goes for people that like goats and people that fuck bicycles.Quote:
I'd say yes. It's all just different orientations. Whether you call them paraphilias, sexualities, orientations, diseases or sicknesses... They're not the same, obviously, but you can't say one is a sickness and another is an orientation, just because you don't like it, or it isn't as accepted, or it is harmful or whatever you think it is, it's still just an attraction.
No harm? What about the pedophiles social life and the countless psychological issues that can arise from living a life of repressed desires? Assuming you're a heterosexual male, imagine if you were attracted to normal girls your whole life but would never act on your desires, does that sound healthy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakro
I'd think everyone has fantasies that never come through.
There's a difference between occasional fantasies and your main attraction. If you're at the point where you don't pursue a normal relationship because you like little boys, what kind of quality of life is that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakro
Well this is getting very situation-specific. I don't think being attracted to children/whatever excludes you from having attraction towards consenting adults. Besides, relationships are much more than just sex. You can have otherwise fulfilling relationships even if you supress your fantasies towards children.
There was a good piece in Savage Love about the "Good pedophiles":
Dan Savage by Dan Savage - Columns - Savage Love - Dan Savage - The Stranger, Seattle's Only Newspaper
Healthier than none? :VQuote:
Originally Posted by Spartiate
That doesn't really change the fact that they are all just different sexualities. It's just that some sexualities are more or less difficult than others : /Quote:
Some attractions (namely between consenting adult humans) can lead to a healthy relationship while others cannot. A gay person's love life is not dysfunctional because he's gay, whereas a pedophile's condition is not only harmful to others but also to himself. Same goes for people that like goats and people that fuck bicycles.
Man, you're many steps too far ahead. I was expecting the usual "homosexuality has consent so therefor it is sexuality, pedophilia is harmful so therefore, disease", and I argued accordingly. But yeah, it harms the pedophile. But I know a bunch who claim to live happy lives, after they learned to accept themselves. And not only that, but they live happy lives, often even with children of their own, without doing illegal or inappropriate things...Quote:
No harm? What about the pedophiles social life and the countless psychological issues that can arise from living a life of repressed desires? Assuming you're a heterosexual male, imagine if you were attracted to normal girls your whole life but would never act on your desires, does that sound healthy?
And then again, homosexuality does something like that, too. It definitely causes a lot of distress in people who are homosexuals. From the moment a person finds out that he is a homosexual, it is bound to cause a bunch of problems that you have to deal with both right at that moment and many years on. The same goes for pedophilia, though it is getting better for homosexuals...
Actually, not really. There are exclusive pedophiles, and there are non-exclusive pedophiles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakro
I'd estimate that there are at least just as many exclusives as there is non-exclusives. Exclusive pedophiles are people that have absolutely no attraction whatsoever towards adults, and I'd imagine such a person would find it hard to even want to have anything to do with a person their own age...
And as the hordes of angry pedophiles will claim, pedophilia is not all about sex. They have a clear emotional attraction as well. (As for my personal opinion... Not so much. Not sure, though.) Trying to have an "otherwise fulfilling relationship", would be much like trying to have a relationship with a woman as a gay man, for an exclusive pedophile.Quote:
Besides, relationships are much more than just sex. You can have otherwise fulfilling relationships even if you supress your fantasies towards children.
EDIT: Quote from that link
"There is no known way of turning a pedophile into a nonpedophile," says Cantor. "The best we can do is help a person maximize their self-control and to help them build an otherwise happy and productive life."
Yeah, right. You know, I've actually had a few psychologists try doing this to me, and it left me more depressed than I was before it.
Although it's otherwise very sensible.
They are not the same, none of them are. They just can't be changed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartiate
What's wrong with fucking bicycles?... Does anyone here think I-- or uhm anyone is weird for fucking bicycles?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartiate
""Adorable" is fine. Puppies are adorable. Kittens are adorable. You can think something is cute without wanting to screw it. "
Exactly.
Bicycles are so casual, why don't you try a unicycle?Quote:
Originally Posted by r2d2651