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      Is it weird to want to have voices in your head?

      You know, like when people go crazy.

      I would like to have voices in my head to speak to to talk about different personal things or thoughts.

      Does me asking this make me insane?

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      No. It makes you very, very lonely.
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      Why do you want to have voices in your head describing personal thoughts? I don't think it's insane if there's something you reasonably think you might get out of it.

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      It's not too weird imo. When I was younger, I wanted to be unstable just so I could be more like one of my favorite artists.

      Like Alyssa said, it depends on the reason. Maybe you're lonely or you want attention and/or recognition from people close to you? Or just for the hell of experiencing something new.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MIIISTERNEUGIT View Post
      Does me asking this make me insane?
      You are perfectly normal. The words you did not want to hear.

      But more seriously a friend of mine and I briefly discussed schizophrenia, and I tried to suggest that it may be good if the voices end up telling you useful or practical things. If you want schizophrenia, you should take the medication that schizophrenics use to stop hearing the voices. Take increasingly higher doses for, I don't know, 6 months, and then stop the meds altogether. You'll probably have gotten what you wanted.

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      You're not crazy. Perhaps you want this as an aspirational thing - your idols have talked about experiences Perhaps you want to feel less average. Lord knows that's a very average teenage thing, ironically. There's many possibilities.

      You don't want the bad voices in your head. You can't realise this consciously - it's like somebody punching you in the stomach. The thought of the pain is a lot different to the pain itself; afterward you'd be walking around all day with a tiring pain in your middle, and maybe get internal bleeding, which is a way away from the sharp pain envisioned.

      In the same way, having voices proper in your head is not fun in the slightest. They threaten, they tell you you're worthless, they say weird shit. It fucks your life up. It's not like they will beget you with some para-mystical insight. Creativity often comes from working through experience, it is true - witness all the broken hearted songs out there - but when you're actually in it that's hard.

      On the other hand, I -have- actually induced a good voice for myself. I could try and run you through something of an induction, if I can remember how. In my experience, it was like what writers do taken to a slightly obsessive level. There's a character, a persona; you talk to it, they talk back. You know they're not real, but they have their own distinct opinions and ideas. While they're not outside ideas by dint of physical limiations, inspiration comes from the combination of sources; and if your character combines different sources by having a different political/spiritual/visceral outlook then you get a voice unlike your own habitual thought patterns.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Lseadragon View Post
      On the other hand, I -have- actually induced a good voice for myself. I could try and run you through something of an induction, if I can remember how. In my experience, it was like what writers do taken to a slightly obsessive level. There's a character, a persona; you talk to it, they talk back. You know they're not real, but they have their own distinct opinions and ideas. While they're not outside ideas by dint of physical limiations, inspiration comes from the combination of sources; and if your character combines different sources by having a different political/spiritual/visceral outlook then you get a voice unlike your own habitual thought patterns.
      So kind of like your conscience or the angel/devil on your shoulder? Like a beefed up "What would X do?", right? eg. You're about to do something and then you stop to ask this persona whether or not you should go through with your intentions or you need to find a solution to a problem and you start to think like that persona would.

      Am I close or way off base?

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      Quote Originally Posted by GavinGill View Post
      So kind of like your conscience or the angel/devil on your shoulder? Like a beefed up "What would X do?", right? eg. You're about to do something and then you stop to ask this persona whether or not you should go through with your intentions or you need to find a solution to a problem and you start to think like that persona would.

      Am I close or way off base?
      Kind of, yes.

      The closest thing I'd relate it to is a latter-day imaginary friend. It's not that you think like the persona does - they work as a separate entity. If you've got a question you talk to them about it instead.

      It's a bit weird at first, as it feels like you're forcing the answers; but then it becomes a sort of automatic doublethink.
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      I think that the echo would drive me crazy.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Invader View Post
      But more seriously a friend of mine and I briefly discussed schizophrenia, and I tried to suggest that it may be good if the voices end up telling you useful or practical things.
      Have you ever heard of someone receiving useful or practical information from the voices in their head?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lseadragon View Post
      On the other hand, I -have- actually induced a good voice for myself. I could try and run you through something of an induction, if I can remember how. In my experience, it was like what writers do taken to a slightly obsessive level. There's a character, a persona; you talk to it, they talk back. You know they're not real, but they have their own distinct opinions and ideas. While they're not outside ideas by dint of physical limiations, inspiration comes from the combination of sources; and if your character combines different sources by having a different political/spiritual/visceral outlook then you get a voice unlike your own habitual thought patterns.
      Yes, that is what I want, to have what seems a different opinion on things when I have no one else to ask. This is not a loneliness thing, or "Some famous person had that so I want it too", it is simply I would like to have a second view on things.

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      Then no, there's nothing wrong with that. Just get into the habit of internally talking to this imaginary persona and it'll eventually become second-nature.

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      its only weird if you think its weird.....
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      Quote Originally Posted by saltyseedog View Post
      its only weird if you think its weird.....
      Au contraire. Other people's opinions will affect it too.

      Quote Originally Posted by Aquanina
      Have you ever heard of someone receiving useful or practical information from the voices in their head?
      Ancedata: I don't know if I got so much practical information out of it. There were a number of subconscious hints that bubbled up but overall I'd classify it more as "weird interesting thing" than "useful thing".
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      I have something similar to what Lseadragon describes but unintentionally and in a bad way. I'm not insane at all, since I know it isn't real. It's more like I'm talking to myself in second-person which I'm guessing most people do, but gotten a bit out of hand. So if you're trying the advice given, make sure you keep your imagined voices positive and inspirational. Don't allow yourself to use the voice to insult yourself or anything, because that could turn out bad and not yield the results you want (to gain inspiration, get second opinions on things).

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      What if a person was actually schizophrenic but didn't know about it because the voices in their head were deaf, and hence those voices never learned how to speak. The voices might actually be making hand gestures inside the person's head, but he/she would have no clue.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Raphael View Post
      What if a person was actually schizophrenic but didn't know about it because the voices in their head were deaf, and hence those voices never learned how to speak. The voices might actually be making hand gestures inside the person's head, but he/she would have no clue.
      Maybe, but it seems like whatever is subconsciously going on to make someone hear voices, it happens because the subconscious knows that the conscious mind is going to hear it. In other words, the reason the subconscious creates the voices is so that the consciousness will hear them. It seems this is true, but might be wrong, I'm not sure why.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Raphael View Post
      What if a person was actually schizophrenic but didn't know about it because the voices in their head were deaf, and hence those voices never learned how to speak. The voices might actually be making hand gestures inside the person's head, but he/she would have no clue.
      Hell, what if they suffer from muscular dystrophy?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lseadragon View Post
      On the other hand, I -have- actually induced a good voice for myself. I could try and run you through something of an induction, if I can remember how. In my experience, it was like what writers do taken to a slightly obsessive level. There's a character, a persona; you talk to it, they talk back. You know they're not real, but they have their own distinct opinions and ideas. While they're not outside ideas by dint of physical limiations, inspiration comes from the combination of sources; and if your character combines different sources by having a different political/spiritual/visceral outlook then you get a voice unlike your own habitual thought patterns.
      Like you ask yourself and answer yourself? Only acting like it is said by another person?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Dianeva View Post
      Maybe, but it seems like whatever is subconsciously going on to make someone hear voices, it happens because the subconscious knows that the conscious mind is going to hear it. In other words, the reason the subconscious creates the voices is so that the consciousness will hear them. It seems this is true, but might be wrong, I'm not sure why.
      Yrah. I don't think that was particularly clear, Dianeva, but my take on it is that the subconscious produces voices because voices are our accepted means of communication, and often our means of internal self-communication. The subconscious would just use whatever your internal voice is; English, French, ASL, dog barks.

      If one had no language, then thoughts would be constructed out of concepts; and your subconscious would just communicate in this way, given that scenario.
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      ^ In other words, Raphael was joking.

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      we all have it, only a few of us know how to use it

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      It sounds more like you want an entourage of advisors to follow you around.
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      If all you want is to gain new perspectives why do you need voices? It seems like you want to gain these perspectives without doing any work. It's easy to have other people tell you things. You could just try asking yourself questions...what would happen if i did it this way instead? why am i doing this? is this right, why or why not? answer your own questions and then find more to answer. It takes some practice to be able to do this efficiently and effectively but you will come out knowing so much more about yourself and more confident in your decisions.

      What does everyone else think?
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      I think that's a great response, Shwaleti.

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