Guy Shoots His Daughters Laptop

[Solarflare]

I found on the channel 5 news that some guy shot his daughters laptop and like put it on youtube and I searched it up... Fuck Yes!

[Treboreous]

I made my daughter watch this. Then I told her “now I know you don’t have a laptop, but you have a cat, and I have a pistol. When was the last time you cleaned the litter box”?

[Puffin]

I personally love how he was initially going to post it to her wall for her friends to see, but now over 18 million people have seen it. XD This is the original video with all the hits; it's 3 minutes longer too.

[Marvo]

[Solarflare]

I personally love how he was initially going to post it to her wall for her friends to see, but now over 18 million people have seen it. XD This is the original video with all the hits; it's 3 minutes longer too. Yeah, when I found out I posted the wrong video I was like . Too late to edit it now

[SpaceCowboyDave]

Nice.

[tommo]

He could have given that laptop to charity or something. But whatever. IMO the guy sounds like a dick, people don't realise that the way your kids turn out is almost a direct result of the way you parent them. Obviously some other factors come in to play, including the way other parents raise their kids since they will be hanging out together. But the most important factor is how you teach them to behave. I also like the massive cognitive dissonance required to continue disciplining a person like they are a child, while simultaneously telling them they are adults and need to take responsib-b....ility.

[tropicalbreeze]

at least he didn't shoot the daughter.

[Maeni]

This news story has actually been really interesting to me. When I first saw the video, I knee jerk reacted with my automatic response: The guy is a jackass - he raised the kid the way he did, so he is responsible for her turning out the way she did. But after that, I read his facebook page, and the whole thing turned into a rather new and unique perspective on the whole issue of raising children. http://www.facebook.com/tommyjordaniii I think I'm living in a culture where we're likely to say that punishments are harsh and unnecessary, and dialogue is more important. But reading his facebook page, I got a different view. In my opinion, it turns out that both he and his daughter are pretty cool people actually. The second very interesting thing that happened, was seeing the contrast between 'Internet people' and the real people involved in the situation. If you see the comments around the internet, people are going completely batshit about this. Some people said that the girl would now inevitably become a drug addicted prostitute, and other such stuff. Meanwhile, the actual situation had totally calmed down, they had talked it through, and they were then looking through the comments together trying to learn from it, even poking fun at it. But eventually I came to the conclusion that the way he handled it is still wrong and at least outdated. But that doesn't mean it doesn't work at all, though. This blog post has some good points methinks. Moniquilliloquies. - goddessofcheese: hamburgerjack: ...

[tropicalbreeze]

In my opinion, it turns out that both he and his daughter are pretty cool people actually. seems like they both lost their cool to me. but then again i'm not in their situation so what do i know.

[SpaceCowboyDave]

He's raising the kid by shooting her laptop. I would be pissed too if my daughter betrayed me by writing that stuff about me.

[Puffin]

Well if he bought the laptop, technically it's HIS property, so he can do whatever the hell he wants with it.

[tommo]

He's raising the kid by shooting her laptop. I would be pissed too if my daughter betrayed me by writing that stuff about me. I'd be pissed if my parent invaded my privacy.

[Solarflare]

I'd be pissed if my parent invaded my privacy. He saw her facebook while he was upgrading her laptop. Also since when is facebook private in anyway shape or form.

[tommo]

LOL, yeah.... he just accidentally went on to her facebook and his eyes slipped until he stumbles upon that status. And obviously you can set who you want to share stuff with, and who you don't. Don't be coy.

[Solarflare]

Thats what she did, but she just blocked her parents from viewing it just so she can be a fucking spoiled brat stupid pile of shit and rant about useless whore things.

[tommo]

I don't get it. Why did you like my first post in this thread if you don't agree with it? Read the blog post that Maeni posted. I'll bold the main points for you and underline the even more important points. No. This is not ok. If you have fucked up so badly at parenting that your kid is making posts like the above, property destruction and implied violence aren’t appropriate responses. This is not how functional adult people behave. Hannah, in the video, doesn’t respect her father. Given that her father invades her privacy, undermines her personal agency, and doesn’t have basic trust for her….I fully comprehend why she doesn’t. Respect is earned and taught. If Hannah posts giant, frustrated rants about her chore load, it probably implies that she doesn’t feel that her efforts are appreciated or that she’s an integral member of the family or household (alienation and over individuation is a huge problem for teens; it’s part of the formation of adult identity separate from parents and kind of a huge trap. Teenagers are frustrated because their lives are absurd. They’re expected to have adult behavior with no adult agency. Maturity and decision making are learned skills. If parents don’t like the way their teens are behaving, they need to ask themselves where that behavior was learned. If she feels entitled, what have you been doing -her entire life- to communicate the real value of what she has and should be grateful for? If she refers to the woman who cleans for you as ‘the cleaning lady’ is that because she’s noted that you treat that woman that way? Asking for payment for work is not unreasonable; it’s an understanding of capitalism. A less asshat response than ‘are you out of your mind’ would be a basic rundown of the costs of the household in terms of food, heating, etc and what percentage of that Hannah should reasonably be responsible for. Given that she has no economic agency of her own, expressing to her that her chores are a means of repayment for that. I grew up -poor- and my parents were still giving me an allowance by the time I was ten because that’s how you teach kids how to manage earned income. I received a dollar a week (upgraded to five dollars a week when I was 12) for completing a list of chores. If they weren’t done, I didn’t get paid. Just like you don’t get paid at a job if you don’t show up. My parents also stopped buying luxury items for me around that age and made me buy them myself with earned and saved income from my chores, babysitting, recycling cans, making crafts and selling them, whatever. My parents helped me find jobs and gave me suggestions about what I could so to earn money. If Hannah is fifteen, she cannot legally obtain most forms of employment; has she been educated as to what economic opportunities are available to her? Because as a parent EDUCATING HER IS, IN FACT, YOUR JOB. You got her an application and made her apply? Did you take her with you and teach her the process of how to obtain applications and where to look for places that are hiring? Did you make sure the place you got the application from accepts underage employees (most do not) or walk her through the application process in terms of how to make herself an attractive applicant? ‘When I was your age I’d moved out of the house, lived on my own, went to college while in highschool, worked two jobs, was a volunteer fireman’…. Uh….huh. And you didn’t manage to impart any of this work ethic on your children, apparently. Also: You grew up in a very different economy, as a man. I’m willing to bet you had parents or other helpful adults who made you aware of the opportunities available to you. You are judging your daughter for having a different outcome than you had, when she sure as shit didn’t have the same input. Hannah is acting out in the most trivial of ways: Ranting and commiserating with friends. and even THAT outlet is being denied her. All the people above who liked and lauded this: Would you think it was awesome if Hanna was an adult woman who’d posted a frustrated rant about her significant other, and this was the significant other’s response? Or would you consider this to be emotional abuse and a redflag for accelerating relationship violence? Because that’s what this is: Emotional abuse. This is abusive parenting (looks like it’s in the wake of/a response to earlier emotionally negligent parenting, too). If your kid is a spoiled brat? It is not the kid’s fault. Kids aren’t born spoiled brats. Parental behavior causes this. This man is reaping the seeds he has sewn, and because he’s unsatisfied with what his efforts have yielded, he’s responding with aggression and punishment and social humiliation. That is -fucked up-. You are a -shitty parent-. You are not training your child to be a functional adult.If you child lacks life skills, if your child does not respect you, if your child cannot think critically or understand the value of money or comprehend the importance of maintaining a household THAT IS YOUR FUCKING FAULT. This kind of extreme behavior is SERIOUSLY too little too late, and an act of aggressive desperation because YOU FUCKED UP. If I were advising Hannah in this situation? I’d be helping her figure out ways to get the fuck away from these people and hook her up with resources that would teach her actual life skills. Worth noting? This dude is shooting in what is clearly a residential area. That is unsound (though not necessarily criminal in his locality) behavior. This is not something to be celebrated. Property destruction and implied violence are not things to be celebrated. Emotional abuse in response to shitty teen behavior that results from bad parenting in the first place is not something to be celebrated.