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      Why Obama Will Win

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      Goodbye Obama.
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      Quote Originally Posted by greenhavoc View Post
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      Goodbye Obama.
      Care to explain more?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Wayfaerer View Post
      Care to explain more?
      Dude, it's greenhavoc.

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      Obama knows how to work a crowd and for the most part, he's reasonable - certainly more so than the GOP candidates (aside from Ron Paul). I find it unlikely that he'll lose, even though I'd much rather see RP take the win.
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      I think Ron Paul is a moron. I don't think extremely highly of Obama either, (although he's the best candidate). But, as you said, he knows how to work a crowd; he's an incredibly good speaker, he will win.

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      Ron Paul doesn't find you to be the sharpest tool in the shed, either.

      Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.


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      Most nonsensical, unfunny retort ever? I think so.

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      Whenever someone says anything against Ron Paul, Omnis Dei seems to take it as a personal insult.

      I suspect he is Ron Paul!

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      Quote Originally Posted by tommo View Post
      Most nonsensical, unfunny retort ever? I think so.
      There's nothing to retort cause you didn't even bother to make an argument, you just said something preposterous without backing it up... again.

      Quote Originally Posted by Heavy Sleeper View Post
      Whenever someone says anything against Ron Paul, Omnis Dei seems to take it as a personal insult.

      I suspect he is Ron Paul!
      I don't have the same politics as Ron Paul. I'm on the left side of libertarian. That being said, Obama is a collective of disposable waste. I only voted for him the first time because he was black. Now he doesn't even have that going for him, he makes Wayne Brady look like Malcolm X. Yes, he's the most electable candidate, especially if he got to go against Romney or Santorum. But he's a fucking fascist conservative in the same damned boat as those douchebags, he's just paying lip service to liberals, that's it. No matter what he does, Fox News is going to call him a liberal pinko Muslim Iranian Secret Agent. I want a candidate who does all the things Fox News bitches that Obama would do when in fact he would never do those things.

      To me, the most important issue to focus on is dissolving our 2 party system or at least throwing a candidate in there who isn't a fascist. I'm behind Ron Paul as the best possible candidate not only to take on Obama but redirect this country in a more positive direction. However, if it's not in the cards for him then the next best thing I could hope for is see at least 20% of the country defect to 3rd party in this election cycle. Perhaps if that happened the main parties would think twice about this charade.
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      Lol at Americans all thinking they're Thomas Edison.

      Obama hasn't been particularly inspiring. If he wins it will be because the opposition is an absolute farce. A single sensible, progressive republican could have done damage.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      Lol at Americans all thinking they're Thomas Edison.

      Obama hasn't been particularly inspiring. If he wins it will be because the opposition is an absolute farce. A single sensible, progressive republican could have done damage.
      Agreed. These candidates are jokes including Ron Paul.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      Lol at Americans all thinking they're Thomas Edison.

      Obama hasn't been particularly inspiring. If he wins it will be because the opposition is an absolute farce. A single sensible, progressive republican could have done damage.
      Where do you get that from? What's not inspiring or beneficial about emphasizing and encouraging the ambitious spirit toward invention and discovery in human nature? I'd say it's one of the top if not the top indicators of good leadership. It beats Cameron's "smart power" anyway. lol

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      I have no idea what 'smart power' is. It isn't part of our political vernacular. And what on Earth does David Cameron have to do with anything anyway? You don't even know what my opinion is of him. I thought you were better than initiating a nationalistic pissing contest because I said something not particularly positive about your leader, Wayfaerer.

      What I meant is that Obama is a fantastic orator but the actual real results of his presidency have hardly been stellar.

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      You basically said "lol at all Americans" so I just thought I'd throw in Cameron's attempt at being intellectually inspiring the other night, though it really wasn't that bad lol. Obama's environment hasn't been particularly stellar either. Results aren't very easy to produce when you have people (somehow) in power knocking down and delaying everything you try to do based on your mere existence.

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      Make it stop. Kill this thread now!!!!!!!
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      Easy, easy. DV just needs to put more faith in the future. We are debaters, we are artists, we are deep thinkers; we are tommo, we are Omnis Dei, we are greenhavoc; that's who we are and that's who we need to be, right now.
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      Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleWoman View Post
      we are tommo, we are Omnis Dei, we are greenhavoc; that's who we are and that's who we need to be, right now.
      That's gonna be a problem.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Wayfaerer View Post
      You basically said "lol at all Americans" so I just thought I'd throw in Cameron's attempt at being intellectually inspiring the other night, though it really wasn't that bad lol. Obama's environment hasn't been particularly stellar either. Results aren't very easy to produce when you have people (somehow) in power knocking down and delaying everything you try to do based on your mere existence.
      Well, there's a democratically elected Republican majority, isn't there..? So these stalemates are not entirely surprising. Mainly a result of your archaic political system. And I mean come on, when the Brits are telling you something's archaic, you've got a problem.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ♥Mark View Post
      That's gonna be a problem.
      Precisely.

      Quote Originally Posted by tommo View Post
      I think Ron Paul is a moron.
      Quote Originally Posted by Quantiq View Post
      Agreed. These candidates are jokes including Ron Paul.
      Anyway, care to elaborate?

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      OI STOP INSULTING DAVID CAMERON OR I KILL U ALL

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      Stop panic
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      You realize I'm not greenhavoc, don't you?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Heavy Sleeper View Post
      Whenever someone says anything against Ron Paul, Omnis Dei seems to take it as a personal insult.

      I suspect he is Ron Paul!

      haha. I was thinking the same thing when I read that post.

      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      Lol at Americans all thinking they're Thomas Edison.

      Obama hasn't been particularly inspiring. If he wins it will be because the opposition is an absolute farce. A single sensible, progressive republican could have done damage.
      Thomas Edison didn't invent shit. Also, yes that is probably the reason he will win because a vast majority of Americans do not care too much, but most still know the Republicans are insane.
      However for the people that know anything about politics, they will vote for him because he's brought about a lot of change. Some very bad, some very good. But he isn't the
      coward that some people make him out to be.

      Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleWoman View Post
      Anyway, care to elaborate?
      Maybe moron was too harsh. I think he's fairly intelligent, with some horrible horrible ideas.
      If you think the government is bad at running a business, you wouldn't even be able to comprehend the royal cluster fuck that would
      occur if private businesses were allowed to reign free.
      Free market capitalism is moronic. It has some good upsides, because anyone can start a business selling anything, rather than the government deciding what's allowed.
      So it allows people to be free.
      The downsides massively outweigh the good sides, huge businesses owning monopolies in their sector, allowing them to set the bar for prices. Think Google, for some IRL product, like oil.
      They would be able to pay workers any amount of money they choose, since there would be no minimum wage, they could fuck up the environment as much as the please to gain profit.
      The list goes on.

      In a world where people think for themselves and are able to take decisive action against something they see as unjust, or wrong in any way, this system would be perfect.
      In this world, many people enjoy taking it up the ass. They will put up with that $2 an hour from a company that mines precious metals from ancient ocean geysers. Because people don't care.

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      Well of course he will win. He doesn't have to do ANYTHING and he gets a Nobel Peace Prize. Just because he's an inspiring speaker.

      That's what I call charisma.

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