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      Truly Shocking Eye Witness Account from New Orleans

      I know this account is very long but please read it to grasp the full impact of what survivors experienced (it adds a new dimension to what's being circulated in mainstream media). It makes me agree even stronger with my reply to the New Orleans topic: http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic....der=asc&start=0

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      Two friends of mine-paramedics attending a conference-were trapped in New
      Orleans by Hurricane Katrina. This is their eyewitness report. --PG

      Hurricane Katrina - Our Experiences by Larry Bradshaw & Lorrie Beth Slonsky


      Two days after Hurricane Katrina struck New Orleans, the Walgreen's store at
      the corner of Royal and Iberville streets remained locked. The dairy display
      case was clearly visible through the windows. It was now 48 hours without
      electricity, running water, plumbing. The milk, yogurt, and cheeses were
      beginning to spoil in the 90-degree heat. The owners and managers had locked
      up the food, water, pampers, and prescriptions and fled the City. Outside
      Walgreen's windows, residents and tourists grew increasingly thirsty and
      hungry.

      The much-promised federal, state and local aid never materialized and the
      windows at Walgreen's gave way to the looters. There was an alternative. The
      cops could have broken one small window and distributed the nuts, fruit
      juices, and bottle water in an organized and systematic manner. But they did
      not. Instead they spent hours playing cat and mouse, temporarily chasing
      away the looters.

      We were finally airlifted out of New Orleans two days ago and arrived home
      yesterday (Saturday). We have yet to see any of the TV coverage or look at a
      newspaper. We are willing to guess that there were no video images or
      front-page pictures of European or affluent white tourists looting the
      Walgreen's in the French Quarter.

      We also suspect the media will have been inundated with "hero" images of the
      National Guard, the troops and the police struggling to help the "victims"
      of the Hurricane. What you will not see, but what we witnessed,were the real
      heroes and sheroes of the hurricane relief effort: the working class of New
      Orleans. The maintenance workers who used a fork lift to carry the sick and
      disabled. The engineers, who rigged, nurtured and kept the generators
      running. The electricians who improvised thick extension cords stretching
      over blocks to share the little electricity we had in order to free cars
      stuck on rooftop parking lots. Nurses who took over for mechanical
      ventilators and spent many hours on end manually forcing air into the lungs
      of unconscious patients to keep them alive. Doormen who rescued folks stuck
      in elevators.

      Refinery workers who broke into boat yards, "stealing" boats to rescue their
      neighbors clinging to their roofs in flood waters. Mechanics who helped
      hot-wire any car that could be found to ferry people out of the City. And
      the food service workers who scoured the commercial kitchens improvising
      communal meals for hundreds of those stranded.

      Most of these workers had lost their homes, and had not heard from members
      of their families, yet they stayed and provided the only infrastructure for
      the 20% of New Orleans that was not under water.

      On Day 2, there were approximately 500 of us left in the hotels in the
      French Quarter. We were a mix of foreign tourists, conference attendees like
      ourselves, and locals who had checked into hotels for safety and shelter
      from Katrina. Some of us had cell phone contact with family and friends
      outside of New Orleans. We were repeatedly told that all sorts of resources
      including the National Guard and scores of buses were pouring in to the
      City. The buses and the other resources must have been invisible because
      none of us had seen them.

      We decided we had to save ourselves. So we pooled our money and came up with
      $25,000 to have ten buses come and take us out of the City. Those who did
      not have the requisite $45.00 for a ticket were subsidized by those who did
      have extra money. We waited for 48 hours for the buses, spending the last 12
      hours standing outside, sharing the limited water, food, and clothes we had.
      We created a priority boarding area for the sick, elderly and new born
      babies. We waited late into the night for the "imminent" arrival of the
      buses. The buses never arrived. We later learned that the minute the arrived
      to the City limits, they were commandeered by the military.

      By day 4 our hotels had run out of fuel and water. Sanitation was
      dangerously abysmal. As the desperation and despair increased, street crime
      as well as water levels began to rise. The hotels turned us out and locked
      their doors, telling us that the "officials" told us to report to the
      convention center to wait for more buses. As we entered the center of the
      City, we finally encountered the National Guard. The Guards told us we would
      not be allowed into the Superdome as the City's primary shelter had
      descended into a humanitarian and health hellhole.

      The guards further told us that the City's only other shelter, the
      Convention Center, was also descending into chaos and squalor and that the
      police were not allowing anyone else in. Quite naturally, we asked, "If we
      can't go to the only 2 shelters in the City, what was our alternative?" The
      guards told us that that was our problem, and no they did not have extra
      water to give to us. This would be the start of our numerous encounters with
      callous and hostile "law enforcement".

      We walked to the police command center at Harrah's on Canal Street and were
      told the same thing, that we were on our own, and no they did not have water
      to give us. We now numbered several hundred. We held a mass meeting to
      decide a course of action. We agreed to camp outside the police command
      post. We would be plainly visible to the media and would constitute a highly
      visible embarrassment to the City officials. The police told us that we
      could not stay. Regardless, we began to settle in and set up camp. In short
      order, the police commander came across the street to address our group. He
      told us he had a solution: we should walk to the Pontchartrain Expressway
      and cross the greater New Orleans Bridge where the police had buses lined up
      to take us out of the City.

      The crowed cheered and began to move. We called everyone back and explained
      to the commander that there had been lots of misinformation and wrong
      information and was he sure that there were buses waiting for us. The
      commander turned to the crowd and stated emphatically, "I swear to you that
      the buses are there."

      We organized ourselves and the 200 of us set off for the bridge with great
      excitement and hope. As we marched pasted the convention center, many locals
      saw our determined and optimistic group and asked where we were headed. We
      told them about the great news. Families immediately grabbed their few
      belongings and quickly our numbers doubled and then doubled again. Babies in
      strollers now joined us, people using crutches, elderly clasping walkers and
      others people in wheelchairs. We marched the 2-3 miles to the freeway and up
      the steep incline to the Bridge. It now began to pour down rain, but it did
      not dampen our enthusiasm.

      As we approached the bridge, armed Gretna sheriffs formed a line across the
      foot of the bridge. Before we were close enough to speak, they began firing
      their weapons over our heads. This sent the crowd fleeing in various
      directions. As the crowd scattered and dissipated, a few of us inched
      forward and managed to engage some of the sheriffs in conversation. We told
      them of our conversation with the police commander and of the commander's
      assurances. The sheriffs informed us there were no buses waiting. The
      commander had lied to us to get us to move.

      We questioned why we couldn't cross the bridge anyway, especially as there
      was little traffic on the 6-lane highway. They responded that the West Bank
      was not going to become New Orleans and there would be no Superdomes in
      their City. These were code words for if you are poor and black, you are not
      crossing the Mississippi River and you were not getting out of New Orleans.

      Our small group retreated back down Highway 90 to seek shelter from the rain
      under an overpass. We debated our options and in the end decided to build an
      encampment in the middle of the Ponchartrain Expressway on the center
      divide, between the O'Keefe and Tchoupitoulas exits. We reasoned we would be
      visible to everyone, we would have some security being on an elevated
      freeway and we could wait and watch for the arrival of the yet to be seen
      buses.

      All day long, we saw other families, individuals and groups make the same
      trip up the incline in an attempt to cross the bridge, only to be turned
      away. Some chased away with gunfire, others simply told no, others to be
      verbally berated and humiliated. Thousands of New Orleaners were prevented
      and prohibited from self-evacuating the City on foot.

      Meanwhile, the only two City shelters sank further into squalor and
      disrepair. The only way across the bridge was by vehicle. We saw workers
      stealing trucks, buses, moving vans, semi-trucks and any car that could be
      hotwired. All were packed with people trying to escape the misery New
      Orleans had become.

      Our little encampment began to blossom. Someone stole a water delivery truck
      and brought it up to us. Let's hear it for looting! A mile or so down the
      freeway, an army truck lost a couple of pallets of C-rations on a tight
      turn. We ferried the food back to our camp in shopping carts.

      Now secure with the two necessities, food and water; cooperation, community,
      and creativity flowered. We organized a clean up and hung garbage bags from
      the rebar poles. We made beds from wood pallets and cardboard. We designated
      a storm drain as the bathroom and the kids built an elaborate enclosure for
      privacy out of plastic, broken umbrellas, and other scraps. We even
      organized a food recycling system where individuals could swap out parts of
      C-rations (applesauce for babies and candies for kids!).

      This was a process we saw repeatedly in the aftermath of Katrina. When
      individuals had to fight to find food or water, it meant looking out for
      yourself only. You had to do whatever it took to find water for your kids or
      food for your parents. When these basic needs were met, people began to look
      out for each other, working together and constructing a community.

      If the relief organizations had saturated the City with food and water in
      the first 2 or 3 days, the desperation, the frustration and the ugliness
      would not have set in.

      Flush with the necessities, we offered food and water to passing families
      and individuals. Many decided to stay and join us. Our encampment grew to 80
      or 90 people.

      From a woman with a battery powered radio we learned that the media was
      talking about us. Up in full view on the freeway, every relief and news
      organizations saw us on their way into the City. Officials were being asked
      what they were going to do about all those families living up on the
      freeway? The officials responded they were going to take care of us.
      Some of us got a sinking feeling. "Taking care of us" had an ominous tone to it.

      Unfortunately, our sinking feeling (along with the sinking City) was
      correct. Just as dusk set in, a Gretna Sheriff showed up, jumped out of his
      patrol vehicle, aimed his gun at our faces, screaming, "Get off the fucking
      freeway". A helicopter arrived and used the wind from its blades to blow
      away our flimsy structures. As we retreated, the sheriff loaded up his truck
      with our food and water.

      Once again, at gunpoint, we were forced off the freeway. All the law
      enforcement agencies appeared threatened when we congregated or congealed
      into groups of 20 or more. In every congregation of "victims"
      they saw "mob" or "riot". We felt safety in numbers. Our "we must stay
      together" was impossible because the agencies would force us into small
      atomized groups.

      In the pandemonium of having our camp raided and destroyed, we scattered
      once again. Reduced to a small group of 8 people, in the dark, we sought
      refuge in an abandoned school bus, under the freeway on Cilo Street. We were
      hiding from possible criminal elements but equally and definitely, we were
      hiding from the police and sheriffs with their martial law, curfew and
      shoot-to-kill policies.

      The next days, our group of 8 walked most of the day, made contact with New
      Orleans Fire Department and were eventually airlifted out by an urban search
      and rescue team. We were dropped off near the airport and managed to catch a
      ride with the National Guard. The two young guardsmen apologized for the
      limited response of the Louisiana guards. They explained that a large
      section of their unit was in Iraq and that meant they were shorthanded and
      were unable to complete all the tasks they were assigned.

      We arrived at the airport on the day a massive airlift had begun. The
      airport had become another Superdome. We 8 were caught in a press of
      humanity as flights were delayed for several hours while George Bush landed
      briefly at the airport for a photo op. After being evacuated on a coast
      guard cargo plane, we arrived in San Antonio, Texas.

      There the humiliation and dehumanization of the official relief effort
      continued. We were placed on buses and driven to a large field where we were
      forced to sit for hours and hours. Some of the buses did not have
      air-conditioners. In the dark, hundreds if us were forced to share two
      filthy overflowing porta-potties. Those who managed to make it out with any
      possessions (often a few belongings in tattered plastic bags) we were
      subjected to two different dog-sniffing searches.

      Most of us had not eaten all day because our C-rations had been confiscated
      at the airport because the rations set off the metal detectors. Yet, no food
      had been provided to the men, women, children, elderly, disabled as they sat
      for hours waiting to be "medically screened" to make sure we were not
      carrying any communicable diseases.

      This official treatment was in sharp contrast to the warm, heart-felt
      reception given to us by the ordinary Texans. We saw one airline worker give
      her shoes to someone who was barefoot. Strangers on the street offered us
      money and toiletries with words of welcome. Throughout, the official relief
      effort was callous, inept, and racist. There was more suffering than need
      be. Lives were lost that did not need to be lost.

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      Bloody hell.... that's just fucking unbeleivable! I mean... fuck. I only skimmed over that, but what I read has completley blown my mind. Sherrifs shooting over people's heads on the bridge, being ordered about like that...

      You certainly don't hear this stuff in the media. It shows you how dodgy things get as soon as beuraucrats take rule in emergency situations, their orders flying against common sense. I mean I can understand it if the officers or whoever are following orders against their will and stuff, but someone screaming at people and pointing a gun while telling them to move on. I mean... christ they're women and children who've just had their homes destroyed and are just trying to get somewhere safe argh that makes me angry.

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      >> You certainly don't hear this stuff in the media

      Actually that's not true. Many people in the media have been screaming this kind of stuff for awhile now. But nobody listened...

      I still don't get why so much help was turned away... Why the order for relief organizations to stay out of the city was not lifted after it became clear that the rescue operations were not going to be a quick operation. Why some busses took some people out of the superdome but then didn't come back to get the rest. Why the people in the superdome weren't allowed to walk the fuck out (there was a bridge right there they could have walked over and gotten the hell out of that hell hole). Why WalMart trucks full of bottled water were turned away by FEMA. Why FEMA cut the emergency communication lines of what was left of the police in the city.

      I don't like to be a finger pointer, you know, but anywhere something smells kinda bad in the response effort, FEMA is surely standing nearby.

      There are many things I can understand, but FEMA's relief policy is something I'll struggle to understand for years to come. Hell, they waited until a couple hours after the storm passed to even begin organizing their efforts.

      My personal thought on the issue, and this applies to any disaster situation, if you're not going to help the people live, then get the hell out of the way.
      Insanity is the new avant-garde.

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      Oh god that is awful i just dont know what to say

      not to be the pessimist but how do we know if its true or not ?












      Originally posted by dream-scape
      >> You certainly don't hear this stuff in the media

      Actually that's not true. *Many people in the media have been screaming this kind of stuff for awhile now. *But nobody listened...
      where is this I would like to see it

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      Fetish, I've heard various stories told by survivors like those above (mostly on CNN).

      Sadly, at this point, after seeing what's happened, I tend to believe it. Why would two paramedics make up such a detailed/elabarate lie?.

      I also found it terribly sad that when President Bush's MOTHER (former first lady Barbara Bush) visited the Houston Astrodome (where survivors are being housed) on Monday, she said that some of the evacuees there "were underprivileged anyway, so this is working very well for them." (I took this quote directly from an article in todays (9/9) USA TODAY.)

      This just in.. Bush just demoted the head of FEMA.

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      that makes sense, i got into a "debate" with my stepmom and dad about the hurricane he said "its something to think about because all of the gays and vodooist down in New Orleans " like God was punishing them,hahahah, i was so mad at him


      Like the gay people accidentally broke the levi while they were trying to redecorate it

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      Originally posted by Fetish
      where is this I would like to see it
      Well the national networks are now airing it. Last week though it was mostly on cable news networks, but was there if you bothered to look
      Insanity is the new avant-garde.

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