Re: Quiet people are the coolest.
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Originally posted by RyanParis
I know a lot of people who constantly talk, over and over, and over. They just won't shut up. My favorite people are the people who don't talk much, and don't say something dumb. I have a grandpa and he hardly says anything unless it's important or cool. When he speaks, it's just a statement of fact. It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt. :D :)
It's true.
It is one of the defenses used in Nature where weak and innocuous species will dress themselves up like more formidable creatures in order to advantage themselves with the appearance of their prestige and respect in the Wild. And so it is that some non-poisonous snakes make themselves appear like their poisonous cousins, and the same strategy is found among the fish, the butterflies... I suppose the list goes on.
And now we find Human Beings of some Families using the same tactic. By offering only the appearance of Intelligence, and by keeping mum, they attempt to fool their fellow denizens of the Jungle that they are what they can only pretend to be. Intelligent.
Their are many synonyms for 'stupid', but 'cool' should not be one of them.
Re: Quiet people are the coolest.
twain was a genius, if you enjoy his words i suspect that ambrose bierce is right around your corner.
Re: Quiet people are the coolest.
I find this conversation intriguing... because I am a quiet person... but I am also an outgoing talkative person.
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Originally posted by OpheliaBlue
people who are too quiet suck because they expect people to read their minds to meet their needs
learn to talk assholes, that's why we, as a human race, have the anatomy and the brains to do it
course I admit, knowing when NOT to talk is a handy skill, just to validate Ryan Paris there
Starting off... I think I should say that I'm quiet... because it just simply feels that talking feels out of place. I haven't talked much in 4.5 years that now - and before - talking just feels so out of place for me... but I do want to talk just can't because everybody has this image of me being shy. I stopped talking because I felt different... different from the rest of the world, or at least at school, so I guess I just gave up and expected people to talk to me rather than me talk to them, but... that led to them thinking I was shy. Now... and for the past couple of years talking has felt out of place and I hate not talking... but I can't... not anymore... I can't talk. In an effort to seek friends I try to be kind, if someone needs something I help them... they want a dollar I'll give it to them... they want 100 bucks... I'll give it to them, anything I have anyone can have if they just simply ask. I want to talk and say something... but I can't not anymore... this personality has dug too deep into my past personality, I'm still outgoing, just with my past friends (the ones that I had before I moved here) but with everyone else I can't shake of that "mask"... I guess that makes me an asshole doesn't it?
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Originally posted by Kaniaz+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kaniaz)</div>
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Quite people usually have nothing to say because they think slower. Loudmouthed bitches might have irritating thoughts, but at least they're thinking. Or something.
Yeah that was the best I could come up with to defend my overinflated humongous ego. Watch out or it might hit you. :([/b]
It's obvious that you haven't ever been quiet. The only thing I could ever do being quiet is think... daydream... think... daydream... think... learn... daydream... think... stress... no friends... lonliness... mask... daydream... think... learn... daydream... think... remember... older good times... storm in mind... raining... raining... raining... invisible...
in the end
Quiet People = Thinkers (but do not take action)
Talkitive People = Take Action (but do not think)
of course... that's just a stereotypical thought not all quiet and talkative people are like that
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heh.
and OpheliaBlue, you are right in that many people are too quiet, meaning you have to squeeze information out of them, instead of them speaking up like an adult.
however, unless i need to communicate, i generally stay silent. if somebody asks me a 'filler' question that requires no answer from me, i will often look at them silently until they realize that such questions are a pointless habit. whereupon they usually label me an asshole, but whatever...
for instance, lets say its pouring rain outside
questioner: "so, sure is pouring outside eh? you get wet?...."
myself (standing with spots of rain on my shirt, two feet from a window): "......................."
There's no need to be mean... just answer the question... but I guess that's just you... I can accept that I guess. Everybody reacts differently towards different situations.
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Originally posted by SolSkye+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SolSkye)</div>
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Its called common courtesy (you know like holding a door for a stranger); by acknowledging someone elses presence and asking how they are doing or making a comment about the weather or some other trivial thing is a pretty common social response, especially if you are estranged the person and cant ask anything too personal. Im surprised you find it that odd, haven't you ever worked at a customer service industry job? its part of the job description to make small talk. If you expect to exist and thrive in today's interacting society you'd better get used to responding the proper way whether you like it or not. Shit or get off the pot, I always say. Sure you can be a so-called pioneer and come up with some quick retort to their pointless question but did you ever think that they knew it was a pointless question and were just being polite by today's societal rules? On top of that, the fact you ALL are on this forum conversing albeit in binary/ascii text format makes you equally, if not, more social than those claimed talkative people, which unfortunately makes anyone judging others- a hypocryte.
Honestly, What makes your form of dialogue here at Dream Views any more genuine/important? Who knows? Maybe, if you actually took the time to answer peoples questions properly you could have a greater rapport with them and get to this same conversational level with people in the real world as well, not just binary and ascii.
Sure, I agree that those questions we ask each other on a day-to-day basis are innane and pointless but they are an unfortunate requirement of the times.
Success is not had by being an overtly unique snowflake all the time but rather by being that wolf in sheep's clothing, lying in wait. It's always better to be malleable to any situation and be complacent until the time dictates rather than let your real intentions be known too soon.[/b]
I completely agree with most of this... except for the hypocryte part. What makes this so different than talking? it's writing, it's typing... it's talking to another person across the globe. Quiet people write poems... they write... they draw... just to express their feelings... isn't this just another form of writing? Besides... in here... I feel like I can be my true self...
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Originally posted by OpheliaBlue@
geez, doesn't take long for a thread around here to go down the debate toilet
guess I'll rephrase some of what I said for the sake of peace
I was refering to people who are afraid of confrontation, so they expect people to meet their needs by some kind of magic, rather than expressing them with words. Granted, if they show it in their expression that something is wrong, and someone asks, isn't it fair that they at least communicate it somehow? If they want their needs met, that is.
I feel that human beings are at a point now where it is beneficial in a relationship to communicate feelings and needs with words. Animals use sounds and scents and other instinctual behavior to get their points across, but we have the ability of speech. We should use it and see where it goes, instead of fearing what other people think if we speak. I guess that's what it boils down to: the 'quiet people' I'm refering to are the ones that are AFRAID to speak, therefore never get their needs appropriately met. The ones who CHOOSE quiet sometimes (or all the time) are just fine, so long as their loved ones aren't suffering for it.
so in what category do I fall in here? I'm not truly afraid to speak, it just feels wrong for me to speak, and in the beginning I chose not to speak because I gave up... that's not choosing to be quiet... but it's not being afraid of confrontation either, it's life forcing me to be a quiet shy person, even if I don't want to be. Another reason I don't want to talk... is because that would be solving the problem... and while that may not seem like a bad thing... it kind of is when you consider it solving the problem alone, I feel that if that happens I may hate people for not helping me to solve the problem, and therefore I stall... because I don't want that to happen, but by stalling... I waste time. I'm starting to be a bit more outgoing again... taking off the mask... but it's on my own, and I can just feel that feeling being there and I hate it, and the fact that I can only solve it on my own just makes it even worser. If I don't solve it though... my emotions... just feel like they're dying, I don't feel for my loneliness anymore and that can't be good, it's like the thoughts are starting to stop coming, before it was raining, but now there are only clouds without the rain, I can't daydream much anymore I'm starting to feel numbed out or something. So basically if I solve it on my own... I will start hating people... if I don't solve it at all... I'll lose my emotion... it feels like being trapped in a cage.
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It is one of the defenses used in Nature where weak and innocuous species will dress themselves up like more formidable creatures in order to advantage themselves with the appearance of their prestige and respect in the Wild. And so it is that some non-poisonous snakes make themselves appear like their poisonous cousins, and the same strategy is found among the fish, the butterflies... I suppose the list goes on.
And now we find Human Beings of some Families using the same tactic. By offering only the appearance of Intelligence, and by keeping mum, they attempt to fool their fellow denizens of the Jungle that they are what they can only pretend to be. Intelligent.
Their are many synonyms for 'stupid', but 'cool' should not be one of them.
How are quiet people stupid? Do you think that quiet people are silent because they feel or are stupid and therefore keep shut to seem intelligent? You are way off in that case... I don't think there is even such a person who does that. I've nothing to say because there's nothing for me to do without friends... and since I do nothing I've nothing to say, and since I say nothing I don't really make friends here, and since I don't have friends there's nothing to do. The only way to escape is to solve the problem... if I solve the problem on my own I fear for hating people, if I don't solve the problem I fear for losing feelings... so time is some way running out... but don't you think this forces me to be quiet? is it my fault? yes it is... do I hate myself for it? yes I do... do I take the blame for it? yes I do... but do I hate people? no... are there others who try to see it the other way around? yes there are... they hate people because to them... it is the peoples' fault... but in reality it is no one's fault... I even know it is not my fault... because life is completely random. I didn't choose to be born in this family... I didn't really choose to live in the area I was born in... or the area I will later move to... I didn't choose to be born period... therefore because being born is some sort of "accident" then all the consequence from it are "accidents" as well... and so... in the end... life is just random and it ends up being no ones fault. We like to think that there is someone there controlling everything... we like to think that bad people will be punished (and never bother to think as to why they are bad people in the first place)... we like to think that good people will be awarded (never bother to think as to why they became good people and not bad people)... in reality... it's all random... there's no one there... everything just... happens... life has no conscience. So it is not truly anyone's fault that I am in such a situation... not even mine... but I can't help but feel that it is my fault... I can't really change that though.
Those people that are quiet... simply underwent something in their lives that made them that way... it's not their fault it's no ones fault, they didn't choose for it to happen, so they shouldn't be labeled as assholes... and they are simply unfortunate... and should at least be helped and not be called stupid or things like that, it wasn't they're fault they were born into their lives, and it's not their fault they have lost the ability to talk. As for those that choose to be quiet... I guess that's just what they prefer to be, once again... something in life gave them that choice, that idea. Same with those who choose to talk. So don't you think you should help those people rather than bash them? because... even though there may be a heaven... don't you think there's at least a slim possibility that there isn't? So don't you think you should at least help others because, if their isn't, there lives are basically just... wasted away?