So I started this new job. Serving at this restaurant/bar/club on the beach. Last Sunday several of the servers made over 4 grand in tips. In ONE night.
Again...the question is...*see subject*
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So I started this new job. Serving at this restaurant/bar/club on the beach. Last Sunday several of the servers made over 4 grand in tips. In ONE night.
Again...the question is...*see subject*
Heh. Because you were brainwashed into doing so.
But don't feel singled out. It happens to the best of us. :wink:
Because you wanted people to respect you for your mind and abilities rather than staring at your hiney as you walk away after bringing them their drink?
I wanna be that when I grow up. :P I am going to go to college because I feel it is the next necessary step, but if I can ever get a job like that...I am in.Quote:
Originally posted by Aquanina
So I started this new job. Serving at this restaurant/bar/club on the beach. Last Sunday several of the servers made over 4 grand in tips. In ONE night.
Again...the question is...*see subject*
perhaps because even though you are physically attractive you had no guarantee of getting such a well-paid job...and if you fell headfirst into a vat of wax you'd be shit out of luck and flipping burgers...
i wonder how many sweaty rich men they had to rub themselves up against to get such large tips though..."oops, i dropped some napkins, let me rub my titties in your lap as i pick them up..." :roll: i have a waitress friend, so i know how it works. the most she ever pulled in was 400 in one night though, so that's impressive..
congrats..hope you're pulling in 4 figure tips soon
First :shock: 4 grand is a lot for tips, high society party?
Now to answer your question, I see that one of the major problems of societies that base university(or college) studies on capitalism, often people go study just to get a title to earn money and not to actually learn and expand their knowledge, and even though some university clases are full of teachings of competition and money as the most important key in mind while exercising(sp?). So it depends if you went to college to get a well paying job, or to get knowledge and expirience.
Some of you guys got it all wrong...
The servers who were making the big tips were GUYS...and they were selling to groups of people on the beach...guys and girls. Bottle service, ya know? There was no oogling hineys involved, nor was there any time to, considering we were SLAMMED. There were just alot of people dropping several grand on bottles and drinks.
One group spent 2 grand on bottles of champagne JUST to spray them all over people on the beach and dance floor. o_o
It was nuts! But awesome!! I'm excited for this Sunday :D
I hear you. I've only been to South Beach once in my life. That was last summer. Best vacation I've ever had, actually. Anyway, the cost of staying, let alone Living, down there is insane by, say, Central Florida standards.
We went down there and paid, what, like $120 - $150 to get into a damn Club? I can EASILY see how just a regular, no bullshit job at a club can get you crazy money.
Nice going on the job, Nina. :goodjob2:
Good luck with it.
i stand corrected :D
damn, that's insanity...the cost of living must be brutal. how much would a simple bachelor pad go for monthly?
The reasons I'm going is two-fold: I can't teach myself a language, and I would probably not survive an immersion experience in a foreign country.
Also, with most jobs, you have to have that little slip of paper that basically says, "I spent 50Gs and went through an early mid-life crisis so you would hire me and give me money to pay off my loans!" At least you can say you went.
You know, that is EXACTLY why I like visitting Germany.
While in Germany, you only tip for extraordinary service. Say your host just does his/her job, no tip. If they do an absolutely incredible job, then the ceiling is about 10%.
It annoys me to no end when hostesses expect to extort 15% of a $100 check from for only stopping by my table 3 times. First to take my order, second to help the busboy deliver the food, third to give me the check.
I remember getting carryout from Montgomery Inn in your home town Nina. They expected a15% tip, for CARRYOUT! :shakehead2:
I wonder what is wrong with this country sometimes.
Oh, Nina, don't think this is an attack against you. It is not. I have no problem leaving 15 or even 20% tips to a waitress that has earned it. Good luck and remember, don't count your tips in front of the customers! :D
Since I don't know a lot about you, I'm not sure if you've already got your degree or if you are in the process of getting it, but I'll always tell people to finish college no matter what (well, unless they hit the mega millions jackpot maybe...). Don't get me wrong, I didn't particularly like school, and there were definitely times I wanted to quit, but I knew what I needed to do and gritted my teeth to get it done.
I know there are plenty of high-paying jobs out there that don't require a college degree, but are those jobs something you'd necessarily want to do for the rest of your life? Are you still going to be doing the same thing 10 years from now? Are you going to get sick of it? It's always nice to have something to fall back on in case this job doesn't end up working out (for one reason or another).
You never know what life can throw at you, so having that degree is an extra safety net.
So, you are getting us all jobs when? :)Quote:
Originally posted by Aquanina
So I started this new job. Serving at this restaurant/bar/club on the beach. Last Sunday several of the servers made over 4 grand in tips. In ONE night.
Again...the question is...*see subject*
hell yeah one for me tooQuote:
Originally posted by cocoastar
So, you are getting us all jobs when? :)
what's the uniform look like :P
I say college is a waste of time unless there is something you really want to learn. So many people go to college then they get jobs that have nothing to do with what they went to college for. College is important but if you don't know why you are there, your just wasting your time.
very trueQuote:
Originally posted by Alric
I say college is a waste of time unless there is something you really want to learn. So many people go to college then they get jobs that have nothing to do with what they went to college for. College is important but if you don't know why you are there, your just wasting your time.
music schools prey on students like that
they're lucky if they graduate with a degree in anything and end up teaching, meanwhile spending 20 years paying off their tuition because teaching doesn't pay that well
I know PLENTY of opera singers, for example, who never got a degree...if they DID get a degree, it was for business or some other field that they wanted to have on the side in case singing didn't work out. Majoring in the performing arts is basically a way for colleges to make money off aspiring artists' dreams.
NOW you tell me. :PQuote:
Originally posted by OpheliaBlue
Majoring in the performing arts is basically a way for colleges to make money off aspiring artists' dreams.
I want to be journalist, so I need uni.
4 grand? That's alot. Well you only make that much money if you have big boobs constomers can put the money in between. :)
But really, learning = better chance of good job. Allso, knowledge is never bad. It might be fun.... in retrospect.
And college (university, whatever it is you crazy kids do in teh usa) is fucking fun. lol
nice ass cheeks countQuote:
Originally posted by Neruo
4 grand? That's alot. Well you only make that much money if you have big boobs constomers can put the money in between. :)
mmmmmyeah trueQuote:
But really, learning = better chance of good job. Allso, knowledge is never bad. It might be fun.... in retrospect.
And college (university, whatever it is you crazy kids do in teh usa) is fucking fun. lol[/b]
The thing about college is that it can cost a lot. Some more than others. So if your taking out a loan you need to know why you are going. Knowledge is never bad, but why go into debt for something you never plan on using? You know the library is free if you just want to learn random bits of information.
yeah, but you can't put that on your curriculum :P . Education : The nine books of history ... HerodotoQuote:
Originally posted by Alric
You know the library is free if you just want to learn random bits of information.
The college I am going to pays your tuition in return for 10 hours of workstudy a week, which you also get paid for. I am getting a pretty good deal.
Well I already have my degree in digital design. It was a 5 year program that totally burnt me out. So now I don't want to do anything in my field. At least not for a long time...but it's nice to have a degree I can fall back on if and when I DO need it I suppose.
Oh...and our uniforms are white beach pants and a little white crop tank top for the girls. Guys wear beach pants and white t-shirts. Very comfy :D I'll take a pic next time I work!
And about the cost of living...it is pretty high. My sister and I have a fully furnished two bedroom condo directly on the beach for 1700/month. But hey...not bad considering I can make that much on Sundays! (I hope)
I am so excited for you Nina.
The problem with that is 10 years from now when you go to fall back to it, they will look at you and see you have no expeience in that field and have had 5 jobs doing totally different stuff. So it really isnt that helpful.
Incorrect. I already have two years of corporate experience and a year of just doing freelance design work...which I will likely continue to do...even though I don't really want to.Quote:
Originally posted by Alric
The problem with that is 10 years from now when you go to fall back to it, they will look at you and see you have no expeience in that field and have had 5 jobs doing totally different stuff. So it really isnt that helpful.
It's kind of sad now. When I was in high school, a person could get a pretty good job with just a HS diploma.
When I graduated college, a BS or BA was what was needed. Now, in my profession anyway, a masters is needed to really stand out.
When will it stop?
Freelance counts. Its when your doing something totally different that you have a problem.
a college degree is pretty much required for me (finance major), pretty much a right of passage.
Although I've found that it's definitely not required to make money either. All of the rich people I've met are entrepeneurs, not investment bankers.
supposedly it's also getting much easier to get masters degrees and PhDs...educational inflation. pretty soon we'll need to invent another degree.Quote:
Originally posted by Seeker
It's kind of sad now. *When I was in high school, a person could get a pretty good job with just a HS diploma.
When I graduated college, a BS or BA was what was needed. *Now, in my profession anyway, a masters is needed to really stand out.
When will it stop?
Probably when a student can levitate an X-Wing fighter over a swamp and defeat a evil sith three times his size.Quote:
It's kind of sad now. When I was in high school, a person could get a pretty good job with just a HS diploma. *
When I graduated college, a BS or BA was what was needed. Now, in my profession anyway, a masters is needed to really stand out. *
When will it stop? [/b]
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Wow...that makes me sad. Soon people will spend half their bloody lives in school.Quote:
Originally posted by mongreloctopus
supposedly it's also getting much easier to get masters degrees and PhDs...educational inflation. *pretty soon we'll need to invent another degree.
I wouldn't mind that, actually.Quote:
Originally posted by Aquanina
Wow...that makes me sad. Soon people will spend half their bloody lives in school.
It's the paying for it that's a problem...
Why did this thread depress me?
Hey Nina, have them send me an application! Or at least give me an address so that I can send my resume!
:) yes indeedy.Quote:
Originally posted by A Lost Soul
I wouldn't mind that, actually.
It's the paying for it that's a problem...
School... the best days of your life.
I'd like the to go on as long as they can thank you very much.
Oh, there are ways around that. You can do what I did - trade your HS social life for good grades and then coast for 4 years on scholarship. Also, once you get to grad school (at least in the sciences), your education is paid for by teaching and research assistanceships. You won't be getting rich, but you'll be getting by. And in 5 or so years, after blood, sweat, tears, and bottles of anti-anxiety meds paid for by the university health plan, you can hold up that coveted Ph.D. and say, "Oh crap, now what?!"Quote:
Originally posted by A Lost Soul
I wouldn't mind that, actually.
It's the paying for it that's a problem...
But in answer to Nina's question, I at least go because I enjoy it. The bureaucracy and tedium and degree structure requirements are occasionally stifling, but all-in-all, I'd rather be in school, eating Raman for breakfast, lunch, and dinner and surrounded (for the most part) by genuinely intelligent and curious people seeking knowledge about their world than in some stuffy and stifling 9-5 office or lab job. I guess for me, it's just not all about the benjamins. (Of course, I might just decide to eat this post when it comes time for candidacy exams...)
^^ :bravo:
Don't get me wrong...I'm all for college. I mean...yeah it was a blast. For sure some of the best days of my life so far. Alot of hard work and alot of partying. And luckily I didn't have to pay for it either.
I just find it a little ironic that I go to school for 5 years, work my ass off, get a degree to work in some office job for the rest of my life, doing something I don't enjoy...when I could be on the beach, making 4 grand in one night and making alot more money.
Doesn't that seem strange to anyone else? I dunno.
I think it's strange when people go to school for 4-5 years to earn a degree in a job they want nothing to do with. Why waste all that time training for something you don't enjoy? I understand some people do it for the potential for decent pay, but I'd rather live a normal life doing a job that I love (which I am), than making the big bucks and dreading going to work everyday. But, I guess everyone's different...Quote:
Originally posted by Aquanina
I just find it a little ironic that I go to school for 5 years, work my ass off, get a degree to work in some office job for the rest of my life, doing something I don't enjoy...
Yeah but see...the problem is that alot of people don't really know for sure what they want to do. I mean, that's why so many people you meet have "undecided" majors ya know? With me I really really wanted to go into digital design. But it was SOOOO much hard work, that I really and truly got burnt out on it. I wanted to give it up, but I was obligated to my parents. They spent alot of money for me to get this degree so I just sucked it up and finished it. My problem, is that I'm not really happy doing anything...I change my mind far too often and get sick of things far too easily. Tis a curse. :PQuote:
Originally posted by Burns
I think it's strange when people go to school for 4-5 years to earn a degree in a job they want nothing to do with. Why waste all that time training for something you don't enjoy? I understand some people do it for the potential for decent pay, but I'd rather live a normal life doing a job that I love (which I am), than making the big bucks and dreading going to work everyday. But, I guess everyone's different...
I know exactly what you mean - I majored in psychology and journalism before I decided on vet school (I know, a weird variety of majors, right?).Quote:
Originally posted by Aquanina
Yeah but see...the problem is that alot of people don't really know for sure what they want to do. I mean, that's why so many people you meet have "undecided" majors ya know? With me I really really wanted to go into digital design. But it was SOOOO much hard work, that I really and truly got burnt out on it. I wanted to give it up, but I was obligated to my parents. They spent alot of money for me to get this degree so I just sucked it up and finished it. My problem, is that I'm not really happy doing anything...I change my mind far too often and get sick of things far too easily. Tis a curse. :P
I don't think there's a very high percentage of people who know exactly what they want to do for a living fresh out of high school - and even if they think they do, they usually change it later. Also, I think more and more people are changing careers later in life, because like you said, they simply get burnt out on doing the same thing for too long - it gets boring after while. People usually need a bit of variety in their lives to keep things interesting.
Anyway, good luck with the beach job! :)
Well, this is the same kind of income that Models and Prostitutes can realize. But what typically happens is that none of the money is set aside for later. But what happens when these Models and Prostitutes and Hostesses turn 25 (not to mention '30') -- the skin tightens and the breasts begin their sag, and the look in the eye becomes too jaded and wise. With the loss of Freshness and Innocence, at least the appearance of innocence, so there is the proportionate loss in Income. Look around. How many hostesses, models and high income prostitutes are still pulling down 4 Figures a night.Quote:
Originally posted by Aquanina
So I started this new job. Serving at this restaurant/bar/club on the beach. Last Sunday several of the servers made over 4 grand in tips. In ONE night.
Again...the question is...*see subject*
Now, in Europe, particularly France, many a young lady will put herself thusly to work, simply to pile up money that she will subsequently throw toward not just College, but all and sundry Graduate, Master and Doctoral Programs. Some of the most Wealthy and Powerful women in France has once been hostesses, models and prostitutes. But they started with a plan. I am afraid that American young women simply take the money and run -- tossing it away in expensive living quarters, expensive cars, closets of clothes and shoes, and drugs drugs drugs, as well as supporting worthless guitar playing boyfriends.
So, yes, college is necessary because life is not over at 25.
So if you work 3 nights a week you'll earn $12,000. If you work 40 weeks a year, you'll earn $480,000!!! :o :o :o (I'm assuming you would take 3 months off a year to go to Paris, Hong Kong, and Tokyo for partying and shopping.) :wink:Quote:
4 grand in tips. In ONE night. [/b]
I do know some waiters in high end restaurants who make more than office workers with degrees, but I don't think they make this much money.
I spent thousands on university, and have an okay paying office job. I know an actor who got a part in a US commercial and made 30 grand for 4 hours work. However the rest of the time they work as a bar tender for less than I make.
The book Freakonomics has an interesting chapter on crack dealers. The guys at the top may make hundreds of thousands (maybe as much as these waiters on the beach), but the average dealer was making only $3.30 an hour, and had to work minimum wage jobs to supplement their income.
Hopefully an education helps with critical thinking and value analysis.
Well, I'm glad education is free where I live :-P
Unless the clients are millionaires, are you sure there weren't any other *services* involved?Quote:
Originally posted by Aquanina
So I started this new job. Serving at this restaurant/bar/club on the beach. Last Sunday several of the servers made over 4 grand in tips. In ONE night.
Again...the question is...*see subject*
Just asking... :D
Why do people go to college/university?
1. A safety net - you go because you're expected to go and you know that college grads statistically make more money that non-college grads, so if that that awesome, amazing, going-to-change-the-music-world garage band on which all of your current hopes and dreams are riding for some ungodly reason fails (obviously because people are idiots and too ignorant and short-sighted to appreciate your vision - it certainly is no reflection on you), you'll be able to pull down a comfortable salary on the weekdays and support your weekend music hobby, which incidentally you will forever secretly hope and believe will eventually "make it".
2. Party central - the very epitome of "youthful indiscretion" and a delightful opportunity to do all of those things your parents wouldn't let you do back in high school. There is a party every night and you’re at every one. This might only last a semester or two if you don’t start attending to your grades, but hey, it was fun while it lasted.
3. MRS degree – you didn’t meet anyone in high school and you want that damn white picket fence. You don’t care too much about your academics, just that whomever you choose for your husband will have a valuable degree with which to support your 2.3 children.
4. A step on the path to your money-making career - you like nice cars and expensive houses full of the latest gagets. You probably majored in something business-related or perhaps in engineering. You won’t be going on to grad school unless it promises at least a 20% salary increase.
5. A step on the path to the career which, at 17 or 18 years old, you believe will make you happy for the rest of your mysterious life - you were a decent to good student in high school and most likely a bit of a dreamer with your head in the clouds and perhaps your nose in a book. You probably majored in the liberal or performing arts or in one the pure sciences. You know you probably won’t be getting rich, but with enough passion for what you do, you’ll get by and be happy. You may have changed that major 20 times in four years, but you believed that each one is the key to an enjoyable and satisfying future.
6. You just love learning - if this is you, you'll probably stay in the academic cloister for the rest of your life in one way or another. The dress code is casual, the people are eccentric and intelligent, and you probably won't mind the insanely long hours for only moderate pay. People will respect you, and professorship is a perfect excuse to say just what you think (but only after you make tenure), regardless of how it is received. You’re expected to be eccentric and you delight in living up to the stereotype.
Now, I've probably missed one or a few, but I think those six categories cover about 90% of people who attend college/university.
I'm doing my philosophy degree so I can be a Certified bum.
Also, screw tips. It's just a way for the employer to smut jive his way out of paying the worker a few more dollars. NZ is better cos there are no tips. :D
Although, $4000 tips does sound appealing.........
ROCK!!
what about the "prove everyone wrong" category.Quote:
Originally posted by Peregrinus
Now, I've probably missed one or a few, but I think those six categories cover about 90% of people who attend college/university.
OK, how were tips this weekend? $4000 in tips implies about $27000 of business.
That's a lot of drinks!
Prove everyone wrong who thought you couldn't/wouldn't go, or gather enough knowledge while you're there to challenge traditional ideas?Quote:
Originally posted by mongreloctopus
what about the "prove everyone wrong" category.