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      Split from Smoking Weed & LD'ing

      people who dont smoke weed hate people who do. simple. its called being brainwashed by the government into believing the opposite of whats true. like those fucking comercials who make anyone who smokes weed look like they feel really bad about doing something wrong. while at the same time have no facts to back up anything they propogate. lies [/b]
      that's not always the case really

      Curiosity killed the cat but at least it didnt die an ignorant bastard

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      True dat dawg

      Wise words jay dawg. Everyone should just learn to not hate just because someone does something different. Unless its harm to another.
      Anyway, what is this shroom you speak of? Where could one who is interested find it ?

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      Bottom line is, you guys don't need that stuff to become a proficient lucid dreamer. Everything you need is already inside of you. The majority of chemicals actually inhibit lucid dreaming instead of helping it. [/b]
      hear hear!

      Curiosity killed the cat but at least it didnt die an ignorant bastard

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      people who dont smoke weed hate people who do. simple. its called being brainwashed by the government into believing the opposite of whats true[/b]
      I don't smoke weed, but i think people who do are funny:

      My friend 1: (to my fried 2) So how would you rate my sh*t?
      After a long pause
      My friend 2: (to my friend 1) What? You want me to rape your sister?
      All: HA HA! (my friend one has no sister)
      long pause
      My Friend 1: (to my firend 2) No: how do you rate my sh*t?
      long pause
      My friend 2: (to my friend one) You want me to rape your sh*t!

      But my friend 2 just had a seizure, which he blames on the pot, so he doesn't smoke anymore.
      Jon

      "Its always darkest just before it goes pitch black"
      -Despair

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      Originally posted by electronmaster
      people who dont smoke weed hate people who do. simple. its called being brainwashed by the government into believing the opposite of whats true
      I don't smoke weed, but i think people who do are funny:

      My friend 1: (to my fried 2) So how would you rate my sh*t?
      After a long pause
      My friend 2: (to my friend 1) What? You want me to rape your sister?
      All: HA HA! (my friend one has no sister)
      long pause
      My Friend 1: (to my firend 2) No: how do you rate my sh*t?
      long pause
      My friend 2: (to my friend one) You want me to rape your sh*t!

      But my friend 2 just had a seizure, which he blames on the pot, so he doesn't smoke anymore.[/b]

      haha nice. your friends sound like true stoners! thats hilarious man. yeah 2 stoned out people trying to carry out a conversation is harder than it may seem. i recall asking a friend of mine "what?" atleast 5 times and each time he would start talking i forgot what he was saying again. or after the first word im like "what". that only happens when the subjects are incredibly stoned.

      im not sure if i had a seizure once but i was really high and just kept taking hits off this blunt to see what would happen and when i stood up i got a head rush and kinda lost consciousness but was still standing. then my bong water spilled on my foot and woke me up. but i was still standing though. then my arms were kinda flailing around and i could feel my body being still even tho it was moving. kinda weird

      weed and headrushes dont mix
      420/24/7/365 herb?

      <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mayhembrown)</div>
      i tried to fly but cudnt, so i went outside in the garden but still cudnt.. i then thought lets go and find a girl!

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      you are damn right jay dawg

      weed and headrushes don't mix

      let ,me say this again cannabis and lucid dreaming do not mix, for some people who do smoke, it DOES messes up your dream recall, neither does it help with WILD method and other reasons out to govern this.

      i used to smoke herb as well, it may be good for you to discover your inner being or
      so called dimensions of finding new dreamscapes and exictement and shit

      1. it gives you lung cancer and heart disease

      2. CAUSES bone disease when you are older if you smoke every day for the rest of your LIFE

      3. it MAY cause mental illnesses, such as schizophrenia, etc

      4. it makes you very lazy and lethargic

      5. Alters your train of thought, and leads to poor health and impotence

      It is as simple as that !!!

      This is just a warning, have fun lucid dreaming !!!!


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      Those commercials aren't there to form hatred, they're purpose it to inform youth and parents. I'm sure if the government really wanted us to hate pot smokers there would be much more effective means by now.

      As much as you want to believe that you are "a free spirit" or "not held down by the constraints of 'the man'", you really aren't. In reality a good majority of weed smokers still need to get a job and pay rent, and do the regular things everyone else does.

      The fact of the matter is, the people behind the commercials know that the side effects are harmful, and don't want our youth to become degenerates (though admittedly, there are your handful of successful people that have done drugs, this cannot be denied--and no, I do not believe that all people who smoke marijuana are degenerates).

      -------------------------

      On topic though, I think chemicals can help only up to a certain point. The rest lends itself to the placebo effect, where you believe that the chemical will aid you 100%--thus you have a lucid dream.

      "In the end, the lord shalth return in full regulation Soviet Uniform, hailing Lenin as thy true messiah." -Siberian Revealations

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      believe me there is most deffinitely an anti weed conspiracy. please .

      also, if u dont smoke herb regularly, or at all for that matter, you really cant comment now can u. no offense
      420/24/7/365 herb?

      <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mayhembrown)</div>
      i tried to fly but cudnt, so i went outside in the garden but still cudnt.. i then thought lets go and find a girl!

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      Yes, I can comment, and I will. Though I suppose your little imaginary conspiracy gives you something to occupy yourself with.

      Also, I didn't realize I needed to smoke marijuana in order to form an opinion. Unless you were trying to find a sophomoric way to discredit my opinion.

      "In the end, the lord shalth return in full regulation Soviet Uniform, hailing Lenin as thy true messiah." -Siberian Revealations

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      trust me. if u dont smoke weed u dont know shit about it or anything regarding it. trust me on this. you may think u know alot about it but u really dont. much like all other non smokers. PLZZ BELIEVE ME
      420/24/7/365 herb?

      <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mayhembrown)</div>
      i tried to fly but cudnt, so i went outside in the garden but still cudnt.. i then thought lets go and find a girl!

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      Originally posted by sleeping_awake
      you are damn right jay dawg

      weed and headrushes don't mix

      let ,me say this again cannabis and lucid dreaming do not mix, for some people who do smoke, it DOES messes up your dream recall, neither does it help with WILD method and other reasons out to govern this.

      i used to smoke herb as well, it may be good for you to discover your inner being or
      so called dimensions of finding new dreamscapes and exictement and shit

      1. it gives you lung cancer and heart disease

      2. CAUSES bone disease when you are older if you smoke every day for the rest of your LIFE

      3. it MAY cause mental illnesses, such as schizophrenia, etc

      4. it makes you very lazy and lethargic

      5. Alters your train of thought, and leads to poor health and impotence

      It is as simple as that !!!

      This is just a warning, have fun lucid dreaming !!!!

      Everything I just quoted you on is total bullshit. Do your research. If you find one piece of medical evidence that says mj or "herb" as you call it causes lung cancer, I want to see it.

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      BTW weed is proven GOOD for the heart bro. thins blood flow and unclogs arteries. GOOD for heart. all your food in your house is bad for your heart. tears away at your arteries and causing scaring and then other stuff sticks to it and then you get clogs. EAT ORGANIC
      420/24/7/365 herb?

      <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mayhembrown)</div>
      i tried to fly but cudnt, so i went outside in the garden but still cudnt.. i then thought lets go and find a girl!

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      So.... I should take 500 aspirin so my blood gets thin? Since having thin blood is good right?
      80 years ago people thought cigarettes were actually good for you.


      BTW Saying people cant talk about marijuana because they haven't tried it is moronic.

      You can't say murder isn't bad becasue you haven't killed 100 people.
      You cant talk about how bad cyanide is until you've pop a few caps of it.
      You can't talk about cigarettes being bad becasue you havent died from it yet.
      Cheis. Dailo.
      It's tough to bring someone back that never really lived.

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      sorry but in this case i am correct. i know murder is wrong personally, not because of experience, but because i know the truth about its final outcome. much unlike what brainwashed nonweed smokers know about herb.
      420/24/7/365 herb?

      <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mayhembrown)</div>
      i tried to fly but cudnt, so i went outside in the garden but still cudnt.. i then thought lets go and find a girl!

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      Im going to have to side with Stalin on this one

      BTW weed is proven GOOD for the heart bro. thins blood flow and unclogs arteries. GOOD for heart. all your food in your house is bad for your heart. tears away at your arteries and causing scaring and then other stuff sticks to it and then you get clogs. EAT ORGANIC[/b]
      I wont deny that a lot of the food in one's house is bad for you, because let's face it, this is America and a lot of them are obese or will be. As for the weed being good for your health, do you have a credible source to back that up?

      believe me there is most deffinitely an anti weed conspiracy. please .

      also, if u dont smoke herb regularly, or at all for that matter, you really cant comment now can u. no offense[/b]
      trust me. if u dont smoke weed u dont know shit about it or anything regarding it. trust me on this. you may think u know alot about it but u really dont. much like all other non smokers. PLZZ BELIEVE ME[/b]
      you're being a bit paranoid with the conspiracy. They don't want us to smoke that stuff for good reasons you know. Why are you telling people when and where they can't have an opinion or comment on this? It's not your place nor anyone else's. I may not have personal experience using it, but i've grown up WITH it for the past 5 years and saw my friends turn into junkies. Like what stalin said, not everyone using weed becomes a degenerate, but i see a common trend. It's not because I've been "brainwashed", it's because i've actually seen it happen.

      Curiosity killed the cat but at least it didnt die an ignorant bastard

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      u can have your opinions but just know you guys are wrong

      http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/9953

      i know what im talking about anyway, please dont tell me theres not an anti weed conscpiracy. u dont know wtf u are talking about. ur loser friends dont speak for all stoners. i bet uve never even read one article on conspiracy or the FDA or secret societies. humor me
      420/24/7/365 herb?

      <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mayhembrown)</div>
      i tried to fly but cudnt, so i went outside in the garden but still cudnt.. i then thought lets go and find a girl!

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      Originally posted by jay dawg
      u can have your opinions but just know you guys are wrong

      http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/9953
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      i know what im talking about anyway, please dont tell me theres not an anti weed conscpiracy. u dont know wtf u are talking about. ur loser friends dont speak for all stoners. i bet uve never even read one article on conspiracy or the FDA or secret societies. humor me
      You, and your article are pathetic. No, forget the article. It's the moronic way in which you've used it as "proof". It's sad that I have to explain exactly what that article was saying.

      The ingredient, THC, was effective--in mice. And while the article stated that it was helpful to the rodents, the researchers believed that similiar compounds would also help humans. Human testing was NOT done. Interesting article, to say the least, but it hardly provides solidity to your statements.


      And, also, I suppose that by reading speculation and conspiracy sites, most of which contain little or no proof (and contain no more than coincidences and badly interpreted historical documents), I will gain valuable insight into your views?

      Proof. Data. Sources. Arguments don't have to be shouting matches, and they shouldn't. There have been pro-weed activists that have spoken and debated intelligently with opponents, and I don't see why you can't be one of them (or at least try display a little more finesse than this).

      "In the end, the lord shalth return in full regulation Soviet Uniform, hailing Lenin as thy true messiah." -Siberian Revealations

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      BTW there are drugs made that have all of the same affects as Marijuana except they give no high. And for some reason poeple don't use them
      Cheis. Dailo.
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      stalin, you are a moron. a heart is a heart and blood is blood. yeah so take your bullshit somewhere else. conspiracy sites have a ton of evidence. wtf would u know about american conspiracies anyway, your name is stalin. get real


      awhistle, yes there is a synthetic version of marijuana. the main difference is, it leaves toxins in the body that are very bad for you. government cant get paid if u smoke free weed, so they make their own and u get fucked while they get rich.
      420/24/7/365 herb?

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      i tried to fly but cudnt, so i went outside in the garden but still cudnt.. i then thought lets go and find a girl!

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      <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\\\"quillchorus)</div>
      Oh, and for whoever it was up there who said that non-pot-smokers hate pot-smokers...what a load of crap. *I have friends who choose not to do drugs. *I have friends who choose to do drugs that I would never touch. *Stop stereotypes, spread open-mindedness. *And, this is a lucid dreaming forum, not a conspiracy theory forum.[/b]
      yes its true most ppl who dont smoke do hate ppl who do. so what have u been smoking, haha j/k

      you probably arent a stoner, ppl who just smoke sometimes might as well not smoke at all. for the complete mental change you have to be on it all the time. and this thread is about weed and that has everything to do with conspiracy, so uh what are u talking about

      anyway yeah ive been off weed for a bit, i got recall back because of it.
      420/24/7/365 herb?

      <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mayhembrown)</div>
      i tried to fly but cudnt, so i went outside in the garden but still cudnt.. i then thought lets go and find a girl!

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      right...the complete mental change...you mean, becoming permafried? Haha, no, just kidding, that was just a cheap shot.

      Anyway, we obviously have different points of view. I'm not going to try to push mine onto you at all. I can respect our differences, no need to get defensive.

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      Originally posted by jay dawg
      u can have your opinions but just know you guys are wrong
      pompous much?

      Stalin got it

      i know what im talking about anyway, please dont tell me theres not an anti weed conscpiracy. u dont know wtf u are talking about. ur loser friends dont speak for all stoners. [/b]
      Did i SAY they represent all stoners? No. I specifically talked about what the side affects were for them and MY personal experience. And stop being so defensive, this is a discussion. Name calling and petty insults are not welcome(So I'm telling you now, cease and desist with those). Anyway if you really believe in the conspiracy thing, then fine, more power to you man...i suppose ..not like i care what you believe in really

      i bet uve never even read one article on conspiracy or the FDA or secret societies. humor me[/b]
      Sorry, but the few times I spend in reading articles are based on things that are actually important(I.E current events, new discoveries, world news etc) I one time saw a special on how the moon landing was fake on FOX if you want to consider that one of the \"conspiracies\". Did that humor you? It kinda did for me when i saw it.

      Oh, and for whoever it was up there who said that non-pot-smokers hate pot-smokers...what a load of crap. I have friends who choose not to do drugs. I have friends who choose to do drugs that I would never touch. Stop stereotypes, spread open-mindedness. And, this is a lucid dreaming forum, not a conspiracy theory forum.[/b]
      here, here! Anyway, she's right, this is the Attaining lucidity forum and this is about weed & LD'ing. We're off-topic

      and this thread is about weed and that has everything to do with conspiracy, so uh what are u talking about [/b]
      To you maybe...which is why im considering in splitting this thread since this clearly has nothing to do with Lucid dreaming...now to figure out how to do it without messing irt up

      Ok, im done now with this debate. This is going nowhere. Especially with the elitist attitude. Eh..btw..sorry if i offended you..nothing personal against you really

      Curiosity killed the cat but at least it didnt die an ignorant bastard

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      Are you insane? I'm the one spouting bullshit!? Your statements are comprised of idiotic babble consisting of, "wtf man you need to be totally high like 24/7 to get me".

      You, my friend, need to get real, not me. You're just fooling yourself. Any benefits marijuana does have are far outweighed by it's negative effects. These aren't actual effects to your body, they're to your mindset; your lifestyle. Studies on high school and college students, as well a prisoners and others, have shown a lack of motivation within these people (which interestingly enough, motivation returned after a few days off the drug). Your almighty cannibis plant does nothing inherently helpful--most of the "help" is purely psychological.

      I'm not saying marijuana is this "super mega evil" thing we should fear, but I'm not saying it's entirely good either. I've seen people do incredibly stupid things under the influence of the drug, and it's not at all delightful, honestly. Kids forcing a girl to give them blowjobs, a kid that burned papers in the toilet, another throwing rocks at younger students (all these stories from my old elementary school way back then). While caught, they were all identified to be incredibly high on marijuana. Now while I'm sure there's those who use the plant responsibly, you can't ignore stories like this.

      And, one last thing. A heart is a heart and blood is blood? You'd need to be smoking a ridiculous amount of the stuff to actually get noticable benefit. Rats on the other hand, are proportionately smaller and do not require the same doses to receive this thining effect.

      Also, please, if you may, I'd like to see some of these "conspiracy" sites. Thank you.

      "In the end, the lord shalth return in full regulation Soviet Uniform, hailing Lenin as thy true messiah." -Siberian Revealations

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      you guys are ignorant
      420/24/7/365 herb?

      <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mayhembrown)</div>
      i tried to fly but cudnt, so i went outside in the garden but still cudnt.. i then thought lets go and find a girl!

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      Forget it, you are hopeless. If you bothered to properly read most of my posts, you'd see I'm not ignorant, that I have taken the time to research things and see it from your side. You just keep blowing me off like I'm not saying anything worth mentioning.

      "In the end, the lord shalth return in full regulation Soviet Uniform, hailing Lenin as thy true messiah." -Siberian Revealations

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