I really like a girl at my school and I was wandering how could I get her to like me or even how to tell her I like her.
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I really like a girl at my school and I was wandering how could I get her to like me or even how to tell her I like her.
It works by the process of survival of the fittest.
Im just playin!!!!
THe first thing to do is BE CHARISMATIC. Nothing hurts your game like lack of confidence. I know its a lot more complicated than that, but keep in mind you only live once. You never know what her reaction will be, BUT WHO CARES. U are an animal, and you probably wanna get laid, so go for it. If she rejects you, thats her problem, not yours.
There is no secret method to GET A GIRL TO LIKE YOU. Those skills are learned from a young age from social experiences. Without that, confidence is your only weapon
...............................and maybe a little GHB.
*Hominus Feralis does not advocate the use of date rape drugs to get girls
The first hing you need to do is walk up and punch her in the face.
No, actually that wouldn't help much at all. Just remember that the worst thing that can happen when you ask her out is her saying no. At least you'd have tried. When she says no, and only then, is it ok for you to punch her in the face, ok. :bigteeth:
You don't. Think about that. She won't come to you your best bet is to make small talk and magically she'll see how much desperate you are and have sex with your just like you wanted. In conclusion you need to make her notice you.
Right, what you need to do is find out when a damn good house party is going, and invite herself and you over to it. The booze will get you past the butterflies in your stomach and you will seem "cool". Not recomended to anyone who hasn't drunk much before, as too much beers is very bad. You can lose your lunch all over her, urinate youself and fall into ditches and cookers.
You don't need to get pissed to talk to her though, in fact I wouldn't recomend it. First you need to be confidant can get over the fear of rejection that most people (myself especially) have. My choice would be a movie, a walk after school, your house, shopping, any where you would feel comfortable hanging about. You could try asking her out from the start, and get onto the small talk and social neccesaries on the date itself, or try and talk to her during school time.
The important bit it to feel comfortable, confidant and not worry about any concequences (her not liking you, her saying no etc). If she doesn't want to go out with you thats not a problem, at least you tried. I would recomend taking it slowly and being a really nice guy (which I imagine you are), trying to get laid in my experience can go disasterously wrong if you go too fast. Be mindful to be kind to her and don't do anything she doesn't want to.
Oh and try and be aware of what your instincts are telling you, even if you don't follow them, at least listen to them. There is a reason you have evolved "gut instinct", but you also have a rational brain. Use them both.
Be yourself. Simple as that. No need to try something "different" or "not you" to get her to like you, cause then she wouldn't be liking ~you~. Best thing I can say is just to ease into it. Speak to her, if you two get along doing that, then after maybe a week, or earlier if you feel something "click", you can ask her out.
“Wow, I just realized, not just are you sexy but you’re fun to talk with.”Quote:
Originally Posted by Kart
Forsaken Exposition has it exactly right. I wish I had know that in high school.
I've got to add to it though, don't force it. If she feels pressured or overwhelmed, then she will put up walls.
Yes, actually thats quite true. People may feel they need to put on a different "cool" persona, but you don't.
Just talk to her and see how you feel, it doesn't have to be about anything in particular. Be friendly and see what happens.
DON'T tell her. why? It kills any sexual tension. Girls are like cats and a string. if you dangle a string in front of a cat it jumps at it and goes crazy. but what happens when you give the string for the cat to play with? it looks at it and walks away.
Remember. girls have a different sense of logic than guys.
eg
guy logic- a= a
Chick logic- x (unrelated quality) = A
meaning, men connect meaning to something directly. Females connect something that has no meaning or is unrelated to their conlusions. That's why Soap operas are like CRACK for females. these shows are filled with:
"billy's car broke down in the middle of nowhere does this mean he'll never find his soulmate?"
it makes no sense! but they eat it up!
how to use chick crack to your advantage - Walk up (SMILE - very important). ask a question that will hook her attention. It has to be something she would be interested in answering like a fashion or celebrity topic.
eg Do you think the rockstar david bowie, michael jackson, Trent Reznor whatever is hot?
if they say yes. you can say something like " OMG your bad!!!! david bowie is OLD. wow. you're just a bad girl" (say it jokingly). but at the same time turn your body away as if to show disinterest. If you've delivered it correctly, she will laugh and probably re-ingage you. if you've delivered incorrectly she will go "WTF?????" and walk away.
to deliver the correct way it has to be congruent. meaning it has to come from you. It has to seem genuine. from there you can go into any conversation. after the cat-string thingy. gain some rapport - find something in common. just be fun.
body language - stand up straight! approach from a 45 degree angle. if you walk up direct it is too threteaning. don't have a weak voice. just be confident!
ranma just nailed the female paradox
props to you!!!
They dont think rationally and that is why a woman can NEVER be president
HHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA
brainwash her :evil:
but anyway: time for some useful advice:
don't listen to me...
i have no idea... (no experience :( )
Either you or someone else give her an idea that you like her...then ignore her, show interest in someone else, and become too busy to talk to her.
Then, just wait. =)
Thats good advice. THe cat and yarn metaphor is true. Get her interest then act like you're not interested.
It works like crack in front of Whitney houston. They just cant resist abstaining
you hit the nail on the head too. JEALOUSY. very powerfull.
nothing hit's em harder than to show interest and then go for someone Hotter. they think "wow i rejected him and it didn't bother him. maybe there's more to him than i thought"
Hehe...watching you guys try to dissect the female psyche is quite humorous.
Of course, there's alot to what I said, and why I said it. The underlying emotions and issues that control most women. But I didn't want to confuse you, so I kept it simple. Take my advice. It'll work.
Jelousy is a cruel trick to play, it can work well. But it could hurt her feelings, be careful. But it sure gets em worked up, I can grant you that.
Once I somehow ended up with two girls fighting over me, odd thing is I'd done nothing to provoke it. They just kinda bitched about each other to me whilst trying to outflirt the other. Dont think that I'm particularly good at this, its just a random fluke that has yet to reoccur.
Very well put Forsaken My thoughts exactly. You have to be yourself, no need to try anything out of the norm because you don't want to appear fake to her this will not be good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forsaken
LMFAO!!!
Guys... the world would be so boring without them trying to make sense of the wonderfully complex creatures we women are.
Listen to Forsaken. The guy knows what he's talking about. Be yourself sweetie. Unless you're looking for a meaningless fling with the chick then by all means try some of the other tactics mentioned here by the others.
But if you really want something solid, be yourself. Either she'll like you or she won't. In either case you'll find out what you need to know. And in the long run that's far better than trying to maintain a relationship that was built upon a phoney foundation.
And... just fyi... I would have laughed in the faces of guys who tried a couple of the things mentioned here. Remember, not all chicks are cut from the same cloth. You should approach each one as the individual that they are.
Dude being yourself won't help you. when i am myself i am meek, shy, wimpy whatever.
if that's being yourself forget it. what you can do is adapt other attitudes into yourself so that it becomes being yourself.
that's why i mentioned CONGRUENCY. there's nothing wrong with BS'ing your way thru getting a girl into liking you. that's not the point. the point is she wants to be taken away by you. and so do you. Women also bullshit to get what they want don't forget. in fact they are probably 10 times better at bullshit than we are.
I knew a guy who was a total player. what he did was tell them he'd marry them and blah blah blah. They knew he was full of shit, but they still went for it. because they like DRAMA. if you don't get an emotional reaction out of them (good or bad) they don't notice you.
Like I said. Not all girls are the same. I sure in the hell am not into what you call 'chick crack'. I have laughed and will laugh again in the faces of the bastards who use lame ass pick up lines and come off trying to appear to be oozing self confidence. I am actually attracted to the shyer, meeker type because they usually know how to hold a real conversation.
Some girls are attracted to the egomaniacal type and they get off on being fed spoonful after spoonful of BS. If that's the type of girl you want... all the luck to you my man. If you want to spend the rest of your life pretending to be something your not just to get laid... have fun with that too. It's your life and if you want to spend the rest of it wading through layer of layer of lies...that's your perogative.
Just let it be known, some of us gals to appreicate sweetness and honesty.
Oh my god, that's awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by badassbob
Anyway, this is just what works for me, but some of my most intense crushes have been on guys who know how to REALLY flirt properly. It's not too over the top, it's almost a little shy and kind of subtle, but you know it's happening. It's kind of like a flirty game that they're playing with you, and when you realize it's happening you play back and it's sooooo much fun. If a guy can pull it off right, it pretty much doesn't matter what he looks like, because he's got this confidence that's not too overpowering and he's playful and showing a little wit and I really don't think there's anything sexier than that. Oh, and when you're talking to her, make her feel like she's the only girl in the room. And if you can make her laugh really hard, you're in.
i agree with that trying to appear confident won't help you. in fact FAKING confidence won't help you. BUT even if you try and eventually it starts working. what happens? your confidence goes up! and it becomes more solidified = more congruent..
It is true that women go for a meek guy to spend a relationship or mairrage. BUT it starts with attraction. you don't have to go to these extremes mind you. you can balance both aspects BUT one without the other doesn't lead anywhere.
I HAVE NEVER seen or experienced shyness and meekness attract women. i mean anyguy who's been to highschool knows what i'm talking about. AND everyone has seen guys posting in the HELP section - A. they are still a virgin B. they are the nicest guys you would ever meet.
Now if it's true that some women want a guy who's nice and sweet and buys them roses. how do you explain the phenomena of Millions of dateless guys who do their best to live up to this standard?
in fact GUYS if you want proof: do this sign up for www.plentyoffish.com (free dating site) star one as a women. get a good or mediocre pic of google images of a woman and post it.
you won't believe how many unoriginal and just plain "be yourself" kind of guys will message you
egs from mine:
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wow!!! way hot we should definatly chat sum time[/b]
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its nice that your body is good but i want your mind , and your heart, Im Tony look at my profile and if your interested get back[/b]
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Hey there hun I just wanted to let you know that I think your a very cute and sexy girl. Take a look at my profile if interested let me know, I figure what's the worst that can happen make a friend that's easy on the eyes.......Ciao bella![/b]
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Hey How are you doing . My name is ****** Im a white 37/m cutie and true sweetheart.Very muscular and workout and train hard. 6 foot 1 dark brown hair hazel eyes 215lbs and athletic. Im from east texas 2 hours east of Dallas. Ive never been married and no kids but love kids. Im romantic too cuddling snuggling and holding each other and more. Dont believe in abusing or hitting any female. Your soo hottt, Heres some roses for you. @---)--- @---)--- @---)--- @---)--- @---)--- @---)--- @--)---- Wanna get to know me? Do you got msn messenger or aol messenger? Wanna add me on your buddy list? let me know Love for you to instant message all the time . My screen name on america online ***** and on msn *************. Email me all you like. My email on america online*****@aol.com and on msn ************@hotmail.com . I really hope ill hear from you alots sexy. Take care, -*******[/b]
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whats up babe
i love you pictures
your sexy
holla at me
~***~[/b]
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hey i know you don't know me but..... you my new frieand will i hope you add me 2 be your freand i hope to talk to you some day k will bye
***......LUV U.......***[/b]
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wwwwoooowwwww!!! YOU ARE SO BEAUTIFUL... WOW!!! BEAUTIFUL SMYLE BABY.
WWWWOWWWW!!! YOU ARE SO PRETTY.
PRETTY..
BEAUTIFUL SMYLE, BEAUTIFUL, BODY, BEAUTIFUL FACE, BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL EVERYTHING.
NICE, SEXY, CUTE, GOOD, BEAUTIFUL, PRETTY[/b]
This and 20 others like this in the first day. Now if that's the way to attract a girl, for fling or lover. how is it possible that 90% of these guys close down thier dating avvounts after 3 months because they don't find anyone interested in them?
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Originally Posted by kichu
VERY GOOD. that's honest and true. notice how she says "It's kind of like a flirty game that they're playing with you," it is a game. built on 30% bs 50% fun and 20% rapport.
ok. the very biggest mistake of all is to "be yourself". be realistic, are you really all that impressive? intellegent? interesting?. no of course not...that's why you have to ask for advice and why she's not into you already. dont ever be yourself...ever...never ever. (you can do that when you are completely alone or something.)
so you have to do something much better than being yourself. you've gotta fake it. lie. be as deceitful as possible. find out what she wants to hear and see and do it. And if she figures out the lies there is any easy solution for that too...jsut lie more...lies are meant to cover other lies...thats why they were invented man...
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Originally Posted by ;305207
I'm seriously hoping that you're being sarcastic.
I think he has a really good point. I haven't been myself in public since I was four years old when I first started school. If you are truely being yourself then you're not being the best person you can be. You can always make yourself more interesting and popular by making "being yourself" the last thing on your list of priorities. It's true and most of you know it but won't accept it. People who "are themselves" are uaually weird and lonely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forsaken
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Originally Posted by nameless;
You're so right badassbob, people don't accept that because they think there's something wrong with not 'being yourself'. There's nothing wrong with it! It's not shallow! It's normal. People, don't limit yourselves by thinking, 'this is me, so I'm going to 'be myself''. That's bull, there's more than one aspect to yourself, and the truth is you have to change the way you act in different situations to be accepted/get on in life/get what you want, again nothing wrong with that. You can still be yourself even when in a different role you wouldn't consider to be 'yourself', you do it with your own style and your unique personality will come out even though it may seem like, 'this isn't me, I'm only acting this way because I have to.'.
Being yourself, in the commonly understood sense, is for weak, scared people imho.
EDIT: What I mean is we have to change the way we act to suit the specific situation whatever that may be. Drawing an analogy with poker (I think it's such a profound game!) if you always play the same way, no matter the situation, you will only win against the weakest of opponents. To advance your game, you have to know when to be aggressive, when to be passive. One style of play will never be the best play in all situations. There is no 'self' to be, only the best one at any given time. Major Motoko Kusanagi from Ghost in the Shell knows what I mean:
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Originally posted by Major Motoko Kusanagi
If we all reacted the same way we'd be predictable, and there's always more than one way to view a situation. What's true for the group is also true for the individual. It's simple: over specialise and you breed in weakness - it's slow death.
I have trouble with girls
I wind up making friendships instead of relationships most of the time
I think I'm too nice
Yeah you are. If you think she's hot, tell her, otherwise she won't know what you want and you'll become friends. By then it's too late.
Just be yourself. And be funny - but don't try too hard. Oh and.. confidence.
Well, no. It's not 30% bs. The only really bs part of "the game" is that you're probably trying to convey a little more confidence than you actually have. But you don't want to be feeding her stupid lines and crap. I mean he actually does like the girl, it's a natural thing to want to flirt with someone you like. He just needs to learn to make it witty and fun for her. It really is just all about confidence and being funny and not saying idiotic things. You're basically trying to show the best version of you in a short amount of time to get her attention. I think it's only bs if you don't particularly like the girl and you just want to get into her pants or something. But that's not the case, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by ranma187
I'm not a guy, buy I know when I myself participate in "the game", although I know we're playing around, I still am saying stuff that I would say, and doing stuff that I would do. I don't just turn into a different person all of a sudden.
My point - don't bs her and don't be fake. If she has any sort of intelligence, she'll see right through it. Just be yourself, but be sharp.
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Originally Posted by kichu
^^^^^^Eeeeeexactly.
Has this guy like even replied once to this topic? lol
I'd need more information about the situation to make a more accurate assessment.
hehe...
Yeah, it would probably help to know where he's likely to see her, do they go to the same parties, clubs, etc? Same friends?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquanina
Edit: Ha ha! Just looked over this thread and he hasn't replied once. Maybe he read a couple posts and got right to work. He could be getting luck right now for all we know. What a supportive little family we are.
You're not factoring in how females lie lol. even in "The Game" they'll blatantly lie to catch a guy off guard, eg. "i have a boyfriend, I'm a lesbian, I'm not looking for anyone right now" And then, go dance and exchange phone numbers with another guy. a lot of the game is based on bullshit. not serious BS but funny irrelivant BS.
It doesn't matter wether it's a prescripted line or routine. it all comes down to GAME. i can watch a guy with no game use some line and get blown off. 5 minutes later a guy with GAME can say the EXACT same line and get attraction from the same girl. What you fail to realise is that in a club type setting, females are getting approached CONSTANTLY, They've developed ways to deal with this until it's a conditioned reaction to the same stimuli. they aren't even paying attention to what you are saying half the time. they pay attention to how the guy holds himself, how he projects his voice etc. and since all this is on an unconcious level, there's no way to conciously be aware of the whole interaction. you can only see it if you observe it directly.
They say that stuff to guys they're not interested in. The don't say those things to a guy that they're interested in playing the game with. If a girls has ever told you that, it means she's not interested. She's not playing the game with you and trying to catch you off guard, she wants you to go away.Quote:
Originally Posted by ranma187
Ouch, you may have hurt his feelings. :bigteeth:Quote:
Originally Posted by kichu
Meh. Everybody's been rejected at some point.Quote:
Originally Posted by badassbob
Kichu is right.
If you get blown off by a girl, and then see her with another guy later on...it just means you are a sadly inferior male specimen.
Hahaha...
Ouch, if my comment didn't hurt his feelings, I'm thinking that one will. There's nothing quite like tough love.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquanina
OK i'm gonna cry now NOT.
It doesn't mean your an inferior specimen LOL. I've plowed through a few comments.
In fact i don't take those comments even seriously anymore. i just say shit like "oh you have a boyfriend! congratulations!" and then move on to something else. if they blow me off i LAUGH, because it's funny. besides, there's plenty of other women in the club or bar. some that know what fun is. I'd rather be hanging around Fun people than with someone with no sense of humor.
The only time it's a blow off is if they turn their backs and walk away. if i can ignore that BS they throw at me and they are still talking to me. it's still GAME ON!
AND to top it off. one night i got blown off pretty bad. hours later outside the girl ran up to me and is all nice with me and shit? i ask "WTF didn't you just blow me off earlier???" she said "HUH??? i don't remember that!"
Which is further proof of my theory that girls in clubs don't even know what they are saying half the time - that they aren't listening to what a guy says but how well he plays the game.
I bet you girls were the kind of girls in kindergarten - would hit every boy they liked. well be carefull 'cause i hit back! :madtongue:
^ You sound really young.
^ yep no matter how old i get. I'm still percieved as young. nothing wrong with that! Hell, when i'm 75 i'll still be gettin ass!
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Originally Posted by ranma187
I just wanted to make a quick comment on being yourself. I think that that is one thing that is necessarily if you want to have an honest relationship with someone. Consider this: If you don't act like yourself in the beginning, how is she going to feel when she discovers the real you?
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Originally Posted by Amethyst
If anyone had actually read what i said: A. It's ONLY a game. B: it ivolves BS on both sides. C. it's actually not BS.
What i said was. Picture this: we have an idea of an average male, with no special attributes. He has little if not zero any kind of romantic, sexual, relations with the opposite sex. (raise your hand if you are one of them). He is the embodiment of the Average Frustrated chump. The things he believes that will help him find a relationship, sex, or whatever seems to not work at all. He gets so fed up. he might be 20, 26, or 45. he gets sick and tired of being the honest nice guy. does everything in his power to be happy with someone, but to no avail. and because he is so fed up, he is in danger of dying alone, becoming a rapist, pedo, goes gay (not knocking gays mind you, but there are countless gay individuals who chose to be that way because of frustration.),or drug abuse ad infinitum. he has many downfalls.
unless he makes a choice. and the choice is to go and figure out on himself, what works, and what doesn't.
what he does is APPROACH like crazy. he tries different ideas, being himself, being someone else. and over time pieces the puzzle together. in his research he finds two things: guys that are good with women, they are players, or people in relationships. and B. people like himself. He studies like a scientist, the behaviors of each type. how they walk talk, etc etc. and what he does is throws out everything he was ever told about what attracts women. he then field tests the different behaviors. at first he tries to emulate the player or whoever he admires. he fails why? because he is FAKING. and faking is just plain creepy.
however, after getting rejected and blown off after countless tries. he begins to get used to rejection. it becomes nothing to him. it no longer throws him off. after a while his "Emulations" of specific behavior start to work. WHY? because those emulations BECOME who he is. because he has put the time in.
I once said to myself. "wow, that guitarist looks amazing at his instrument. i don't think i could ever learn that." but i picked up a guitar one day. i tried emulating what my guitar heroes did. i tried for many years and i still couldn't get it. but eventually after hard practice. i became fairly decent, all inspired and incorporated from other guitarists.
It's the exact same thing with social dynamics. - it's a skillset. people who have had good social and sex lives, are happliy married are what we call "naturals" because for some reason they didn't turn out like the Average frustrated chump like what we've been talking about. all people on this earth are here because of natural selection. natural selection based on attraction to the opposite sex. so EVERYONE on this earth has the ability to have a love life, and enjoy the opposite sex, fall in love. because it's part of our biological blueprint. it's in our genes.
BUT for some reason MILLIONS of males are out of touch with this natural instinct. part of it is social conditioning, through parents, and or media, troubled life, sexual abuse, or simply they were never had a good role model. etc etc.
There is absolutely nothing wrong, with a Chump. trying something different, even Emulate behaviors that are unnatural to him. because through practice he can learn to have a good love life. and sometimes that means pre- scripted lines, routines. all these are just drills to help him figure out for himself. so that later on it's no longer faking or a lie.
I completely agree with the statement "Be yourself" the only problem with that advice is: if being themselves was the answer. you wouldn't have guys posting threads like this one and guys in the "Help" section whinign about how they are 22 and still a virgin. because all they can do is be themselves, and it's not working. because the traits that attract the opposite sex - they are out of touch with. yet through time they can learn it by incorporating attractive traits into their personality and behavior patterns.
I just got one thing to say, be positive, becouse thats the source of all confidents, I've noticed I'm more likly to be social when I'm in a positive mood.
You mentioned, ranma, that people emulate others. To be honest, just about every part of our life is made up of what we observe around us. However, no two people in the world have had the same experiences or gone through the same trials or successes. That's what makes every person unique, and I don't think someone should give that up and try to assume the life of another because it just won't work.
What about the possibility that some people are just not designed to have a marriage/long-term relationship? I wonder about that with myself sometimes. If that is the case, then I will accept that as my lot in life and enjoy the times I have with the friends I have. Anyone can get friends if they're willing to work at it.
I hate to lie and I don't like when people lie to me. Also, a person shouldn't have to change to get someone to like them. Then they're not only lying to the other person, but they're lying to himself/herself.
I'm 21 and still a virgin, and proud of it. I've never even been kissed (and dated a guy for three years). :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ranma187
(Just thought I'd throw that out there.)
and the fact that you play guitar like a deamon just seals the deal :PQuote:
Originally Posted by ranma187
She either likes you or she doesn't. I don't think you can force anything.
Not legally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaniaz
Force? No. Influence? Yes. Definitely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaniaz
hey Amythyst Star.
you have to understand that sex drive is a lot different for guys. when a guy see's another attractive woman anywhere. within 3 seconds he's thinking (damn i'd like to have my way with her for a night). he's not thinking about "gee that's the woman i wanna spend the rest of my life with".
about how everyone is different. yes, everyobody is different. yet, there are common traits that you can incorporate into your personality that will be percieved as attractive. eg. if you slouch, you are percieved as low self esteem, however if the person learns to adjust thier posture, they will notice more often that people will tend to like them more.
Or about the googily eyed guy. he steals glances at girls because he is too afraid to approach or even say hi.
very rarely will a woman go "awww he's shy!". they might think he's a wierdo or a creep. when 90% he's just shy and doesn't know how to communicate. I've known some women to not think of this type as a creep.
and i have to dissagree again on the statement. "maybe people aren't made to have love lives" BS. unless they have downsyndrome, or a deformed whatever. because as i said earlier. "everyone on this earth was biologically chosen over other potential but inferior mates determined by their parents attraction". the reason why some guys aren't happy in thier love life isn't because of some mystical Karma. It's because somewhere down the line they volintarily or involuntarily were CONDITIONED to be this way. sometimes it's because of lack of male influence in their lives.
what's every single mother tell her little boys about women. "be a nice guy, take her to dinner, buy her flowers" which of course is VALID in a longterm relationship. But it's NOT valid if the people are meeting for the first time. I'm not saying you should be a jerk. but balance being nice with being confident. i mean don't take shit sometimes. BE A MAN! but also at the right time show your sensitive side.
sitting around wondering if "she" likes "me ". is not being a man. Going for what you want is being a man.
i wouldn't even think of buying a girl flowers. unless i've already gotten along with her really well and it's obvious a good relationship will come out of it.
Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills. You know, like nunchuck skills, bowhunting skills, computer hacking skills...
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Good. A bit of what you said there cleared some stuff up.
If you're talking changing yourself physically to become more attractive, then there's nothing wrong with it (as long as you don't take it overboard). I'm refering more to changes in personaity. With your example about the "shy guy," it's not a personality change if he decides to step up and ask a girl out. That's called taking initiative. It's when guys start wearing t-shirts that say "God's gift to women" that I really start to wonder as to how foolish some men (and some women are guilty of it, too) are to think that the opposite sex would fall for that. Now, if someone did, well... I'd hope that his personality didn't emulate his fashion.
It may be true that some guys think "hot girl = sex," but that's not true for every guy, or at least they don't allow that thought to prevail when developing a relationship. I have a very conservative view of sex, in that while it's not a bad thing by any stretch of the imagination, it should be kept within the parameters of marriage. You may disagree with me on that, and I don't mean to be abrupt, but if that's the deciding factor then there really isn't much else to talk about.
I also just want to say that you misquoted me in your last post, so I want to clarify briefly. I said that I believed that not everyone is necessarily meant to have a marriage or life-long relationship. I don't believe that anyone is meant to be alone, however. That just means that some day I may come to the realization that there isn't someone I would see myself with x-many years in the future. But I have great guy and girl friends and I don't think that that's ever going to change.
Mainly what I'm trying to say is that if you're a shy-guy, don't try to get a girl by actin' the playa'.
Dammit. I should've said that!Quote:
Originally Posted by DuB
First off.
NEVER EVER EVER ask a women out. EVER. it KILLS any chance. Believe me I've taken the initiative and asked girls out. EVERY SINGLE TIME i was rejected. ok. and the times i did have girl friends, it was something that happened SPONTANEOUSLY. it may be cute in junior high, but in adulthood it's a serious mistake.
when i think about it. there's a very good reason: it kills sexual tension or romantic tension! it lets the cat out of the bag, RUINS the mystery and Anticipation. I don't go out on DATES with women i "Get together" with them.
you see going on a date requires me to behave a certain way. which isn't congruent with who i am at all. BUT when i get together and just hang out as friends, anything romantic that happens is natural and not stressed.
remember what i said about Cat-String theory. Asking a woman out is dropping the string and the cat loses interest.
to REALLY take initiative of your love life. go out and APPROACH. you don't have to use lines. for me i just started out saying HI to random people on the street. when i found out most reactions to this were good. i felt good. I even went to a mall one day and approach 10 women that i thought were attractive. all i said was "Hi, i'm trying to overcome shyness and it's my goal today to approach a few women. i want your opinion on something? i got to go to a party and i wanna look half descent can you give me tips on what kind of clothes people will find attractive." And you wouldn't believe how nice they were too me. after that. i could act a little more crazy and get away with it. and my goal is never to get a phone number, or to get laid, or start a relationship. my only goal is to have fun, and to make sure it's fun for them.
now i was the typical shy guy. in fact i was dangerously shy. i had a HUGE crush on a girl in JH and i barely ever talked to her. i SHOOK in her prescence. My biggest regret is that i moved far away from her town and i never once talked to her. in fact my staring probly creeped her out. i never wanted to let an opportunity like that slip by again. So i made a decision to work on my self and on my social skills. so that if she walks by me again at least i'll have the balls to say something.
I Highly reccomend for guys like me. to just go out and approach. it's literally the best thing you can do for yourself. not only will you build confidence. but you'll build a personality that EVERYONE, not just women, will want to be around.
Oh and BTW: I'm not god's gift to women. Women are god's gift to ME! :P
"The only way to bag a classy lady like veronica corningstone is give her two tickets to the gunshow and see if she likes the goods"-Ron Burgandy
dude and if that doesn't work tell her you have a pet monkey back at your house and when she gets there and doesn't see a monkey be all like "im the only animal here"
i know it sounds crazy but i swear it worked when me and this girl were both drunk.. oh yeah get drunk first
I'm a bit more of a traditionalist in that I'll wait for the guy to ask me out. (However, I have been seriously thinking about dropping hints with one guy.... but that's beside the point :P ) Anyway, just thought I'd say that some women will wait for the guy to make the first move, so if some of you guys are waiting for her, you may be waiting for a while....
And ranma, that really is a great story. :) It's good to see that guys will take the time to improve themselves (without necessarily trying to turn into someone else).
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Originally Posted by ranma187
So ranma, how old are you again?
Doesn't this thread just fill you with self esteem?
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Originally Posted by ;305207
Hahahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by ;305207
This is definitely a candidate for the best thread ever.
Some small advice: be confident and be charismatic.
no one really takes notice of the quiet guy sitting in the corner. most girls like that.
Girls just like it when you surprise them. For instance, surprise them with sex.
The girl however, might experience it as rape.
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Basically, I have no idea how girls work : /
Well we do like surprises. But yes, being surprpised with sex is usually considered as being raped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neruo
Dont come off as "all that" and dont come off as "super shy guy"... be talkative, but dont be obnoxious. Be mysterious but be alluring too. Tell her you like her ... drawing of that thing she did in art class, or ask her for the homework assignment you missed. Make her notice you by the small things first, then mabey she'll bring you up to her friends and say "that --- guy is really cool." and she'll think of you once in awhile, thensoon you can have conversations!! idk you posted this thread awhile ago, so mabey you already have you.. luck to you
~R~
If all else fails.
SUPRISE BUTTSEX!
OK...so we all realize that surprise anal sex and things like GHB work and can make for a beautiful relationship...but Only in the Short Term!
You need to be a little more tactful if you want to make it last…(regular sex)
First...use Facebook, this is key.
Now assuming you are using Facebook like it was meant to be used (aka you are in college or university...and so is the "Target Girl"...) Look up her class scheduling...infact create a chart+map that represents where she is and at what times (you may also wish to represent this "Intel" with a graph)
Since you already know everything that is important about her (she's hot!) You just have to figure out all the boring shit..consult Facebook...Study her profile...learn it all...memorize her favourite things...movies...books...all that shit. Once you have figured this out you have to sort of hangout around the areas she will be...and at the right times (check said chart+map) Make sure you have bought the clothing you think she will like (fuck what you actually wear)...make sure you are carrying some sort of Starbucks coffee,. or a book like Atonement...cause you should already know its her favourite...
somehow catch her attention...and start a conversation...talk about things she likes..and lie about having the same interests! For example: "hey have you ever heard the CD Here Comes The Indian?" Yah I love it too!" or "hey is that book your holding written by Atwood? don't you just love the ironic subtleties??" (you already know she does...)
the last thing you need to do. and this takes time. is slowly update your Facebook profile to make sure that it fits with hers...just change 1 thing every few days to eventually have all the same interests as hers. You are now well on your way to success...the “cat” is in the bag!
Now I know what you’re all thinking…”yah but.. ~~0///?\~d~~shark!, how come I can't just use Ketamine to put her in a temporary coma? Its soo much easier!”
And I agree...it is so much easier...but there really wouldn't be any class in it, would there? Thats what makes this scheme so much better! :bigteeth: :wink: :content:
And if that doesn't work...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gez
GO GO GADGET CHLOROFORM!
Why don't you just not be ugly and workout loads. If you are ugly then you should workout harder to make up for it. Then just talk to her. That should do it.
If you want a girl to like you, slap her on the butt. Girls like that.
Haha, that's also a good wayQuote:
Originally Posted by Neruo
LOL @ Neuro.
Yes. Rape is the way to a girl's heart.
Great advice guys.
:roll:
oh yah and a good place to pick up girls is in a laundrymat...chics love cleaning.
Ask her "does this cloth smell like choroform to you?"
the rest is up to you.
funny and cocky
google double your dating
I don't agree that people being honest and nice are the ones who will always end up failing. Shyness isn't that bad, it just lowers your chances of getting someone to notice you. (I'm shy myself, but I'm working on it.) Of course being confident is a good thing. Why expect someone else to like you, if you don't even like yourself?
Yeah, working out is always good. It's healthy. And people tend to like healthy people.Quote:
Why don't you just not be ugly and workout loads. If you are ugly then you should workout harder to make up for it. Then just talk to her. That should do it.[/b]
It's good to show your good sides more often than your bad sides. Also, imitating the girl more or less is something good too. It creates a bond. With imitating I don't mean picking the same interests (however, it certainly won't hurt to have the same interests :P). However, when she tends to laugh a lot, laugh along with her. When she smiles, smile with her. When you're drinking something with a girl, try to imitate the things she does a little, just like her. I don't really know why this works. I guess it feels more natural when you're overlapping each other on things. You shouldn't put too much effort in this, though. If you overdo this, it will feel more unnatural than natural. That's what I think...
But lying and all, that's just not neat. There are too many liars in this world already. We don't need more. It's just like somebody else already said: "When you pretend to be someone else, and you get a girl to like you, then she isn't really liking ~you~."
Its a psychological tactic. When you copy stuff like that you kind of sync up with each other and they will be more comfortable. Once you are in sync with them you can start doing subtle things and they will unconsciously copy you back and you will be in control of the conversation. Atleast that is what I have heard. I didn't read that inrelation to dating but it was on some site about how to get promotions or how to do very well in job interviews and like how to be a good boss and other work related stuff. Apparently it works for other things as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dice
I dont think the kids even reading the therad by now, im reckoning hes taken all your advice
put it together, tried to hit on her, and received a painful slap 2 the face
first of all, if u wanna get laid, it dusnt matter if she ses no, go in guns blazing, go 4 it, u get rejected, hu carees
thers plenty more fish i nthe sea
if you see her as more than that and your looking for a relationship, ignore most of this shit lol,
dont think of it as a 2 month conquest,
take as long as you need, first you gotta get on tht frend level but dont go 2 far into it, cus ur gonna edn up in the "zone", the zone is the last place a man wants 2 b, once ur i tnhe frend zone, man u cnt get out, i had tht problem a cuple of eyrs back with a girl i really liked, in the end she told me if I'd told ehr how i felt 6 motnhs back, she wudnt have hesitated, but i was 2 much of a freiend now.
once ur in tht frend zone, you want to show your interest, girls love compliments
your sitting with her, dont fire in a cliche, about her eyes
but compliment something about her
just tell her you love her company, and shes such a n interesting character
nothing physical, something that shows her your a genuine guy, byut make sure your not lying, youve got 2 fell what your saying, and she'll feel your genuineness too
the thing is you dont need 2 b good looking, to get a girl, im nto saying u arent, but tis not even considered, if you know how to talk to a girl
also, interaction is 90% body language, alwyas look at her eyes, when shes tlking 2 u, smile i nthe ryt places, show her tht ur lsitening, that ur actually interested in her,
after the frend stage, jus ask if if she wants to go out sumtym, and ophrase it so if she ses no its not a rejection
do you get what i msaying?
and seriously, take your time, every transitional phase is worth the time it took you
and basically always leave her wanting more
always be the one says, im gonna ahve tol eave you there i have somewhere to be
you know what I mean?
and if shes not responsing, show a period of disinterest and she'll begin 2 miss your company and realise you eman more 2 her thn she first perceived
and dont be yourslef if yoruslef isnt the kind of girl she'd b into
thers plent of yourslef
every1 ses always be yourslef
i no for a fact thers lyk 7 versions of myslef
my fmaily self
my with the lads self
my with a girl i lyk slef
etc
Imran
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