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      SPAM?

      I got some spam a few weeks ago. I never look at spam I just delete it. But I once got some spam that was not a fake email. I had some kinda special feeling I should reply (don't ask). So I did and I got real emails, not fake. He answerd quistions and stuff. So I'm posting this for help and for opions. Here are the emails in the order in wich I got them:

      I AM THE DIRECTOR OF NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY IN THE DEPARTMENT
      OF MINERALS AND ENERGY, PRETORIA, REPULIC OF SOUTH AFRICA.

      I AND MY OTHER COLLEAGUES WHO ARE SECTIONAL HEADS
      DELIBERATELY OVER INFLATED SOME CONTRACTS AWARDED IN MY
      SECTOR. IN THE COURSE OF PAYMENT AND DISBURSEMENT, MY
      SECTOR WAS ABLE TO TRACK DOWN THE SUM OF US$24.5M (TWENTY
      FOUR MILLION, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS)
      AS OVER INFLATED SUM. THIS MONEY IS NOW IN MY SECTOR'S
      DOMICILLIARY ACCOUNT WITH BARCKLAYS BANK PLC, PRETORIA,
      SOUTH AFRICA.

      MY COLLEAGUES AND I NOW WANT TO QUICKLY TRANSFER THIS FUND
      TO A SAFE NOMINATED FOREIGN ACCOUNT FOR VIABLE INVESTMENT
      ABROAD. WE ARE NOT ALLOWED AS A MATTER OF GOVERNMENT POLICY
      TO OPERATE FOREIGN ACCOUNT BECAUSE OF OUR STATUS AS
      CIVIL/PUBLIC SERVANTS. HENCE THE NEED TO SOLICIT FOR YOUR
      ASSISTANCE.

      WE HAVE ALSO EVOLVED A SHARING FORMULA WHICH IS AS
      FOLLOWS:
      1) 10% FOR YOU, OUR FOREIGN PARTNER.
      2) 5% IS SET ASIDE FOR ANY EXPENSES THAT MAY BE
      INCURRED BOTH AT LOCAL AND INTERNATIONAL LEVEL.
      3) 85% IS FOR ME AND MY COLLEAGUES. THIS WILL BE
      INVESTED INTO PROPERTIES AND VIABLE BUSINESSES IN
      YOUR COUNTRY.

      KINDLY GET BACK TO US SO THAT I WILL GIVE YOU DETAILS
      OF HOW THIS TRANSACTION WILL BE EXECUTED, AND TREAT
      THIS MATTER WITH ABSOLUTE CONFIDENTIAL. ALSO PROVIDE YOUR
      TELEPHONE AND FAX NUMBERS WHERE YOU WILL BE CONTACTED.

      YOURS SINCERELY,

      MR. HARICHARUN HARESH

      Reply: Give me directions on how to do it and I will.

      Email #2:Thanks for your email and interest in my proposed business. Be fully
      assured
      that with your cooperation, the said fund will be smoothly transfered
      into
      any account you will provide. I got your email address from yahoo
      website
      and I decided to contact in case you will be able to handle a business
      of
      this magnitude.

      The said fund (US$24.5 million) originated from an executed contract
      (DME/PED/WER-2002) in the Department of Minerals and Energy, Pretoria
      South
      Africa. I and my colleagues who are members of Contract Award
      Commission
      deliberately over-inflated the value for our personal use. The fund is
      presently lodge with the Department's Domicilliary account with
      Barclays
      Bank Plc.

      For this fund to be smoothly and successfully transfered to any account
      you
      will provide, I will create you as a foreign contractor who executed a
      sub-letted contract (DME/PED/WER-2002) for my section of the
      Department. In
      this arrangement, application for claims will be forwarded in your name
      as
      the foreign contractor and beneficiary of the fund to the appropriate
      government agencies for approvals. The approvals that will be obtained
      in
      your name will facilitate the transfer of the fund to any account you
      will
      provide.

      Because of the large amount involved, it will not be good to transfer
      it to
      your existing account. You should open a new account and send the
      details to
      me to process the documents that will enhance the tsransfer.

      I will like to know more about you. What you do for a living. I will
      also
      like to speak to you on phone. You should send your telephone number so
      that
      I will call you for discussion and for us to get better acquainted.

      Waiting to hear from you, and treat this business with commitment and
      absolute secrecy.

      Regards.

      Mr. Haricharun Haresh

      Reply: 1. Why must I keep this confidential?
      2. Would this kind of account work?
      3. Is this legal?

      Email #3: Thanks for your emails. In response to your questions, I will like to
      state
      as follow:

      1. You have to keep it confidential because large amount of money is
      usually
      considered as drug or terrorist related money. Hence, the transaction
      must
      be handled under absolute confidentiality.

      2. The account you will provide will be such that can receive and
      accommodate this fund.

      3. This business is absolutely legal because the fund originated from
      and
      executed contract (DME/PED/WER-2002) and the Government of South Africa
      has
      originally approved the payment. After the approval documents have been
      processed in your name as the beneficiary, the fund will also be
      transfered
      to your account as a contract payment which makes it legal.


      I will like to speak with you so that we can better acquainted. You
      should
      provide your telephone number for me to call you.

      Regards.

      Mr. Haresh

      Reply:I would rather talk over a program called AIM. It is a program in wich we can talk through the internet. My AIM screen name is EddTheRetard. Please go to www.aim.com to download this program. It does not cost anything. Please email me if this is a problem for you, if not please sign up for it and give me your screen name.Then we will discus details on this program. Thank You.


      Email#4: The website (www.aim.com) is not compartible with my DSN and Server. It
      is
      not opening it. You should provide a telephone number where I should
      call
      you.

      Regards.

      Mr. Haresh

      Email: I have eventually succeeded in down-loading the aim programme. We can
      now
      talk through the internet. My AIM screen name is Harhre. Do you know
      the
      time difference between your country and South Africa? I am on the line
      now.

      Regards.

      Mr. Haresh

      Reply:
      Good. Before we do this deal, I would like you to TRY to prove this is not SPAM, or a fake email. Also, I'm looking for an American account to put the money in so we both can acess it. I will be on AIM on Friday, Saterday or Sunday. Also please be honest. If I do this deal, I'm hoping its totally legal. Sometimes my internet is down for a while, so if I hav'nt emailed you, its because my internets down. Thank you. I'm planning to hear from you soon

      Email #6:I want to tell you in all honesty and sincerity that this business is
      not a
      spam and it is not a fake email. Be fully assured that this fund will
      be
      smoothly transfered into any account you will provide and you will see
      it
      live and realise that this is no child's play.

      I also want to assure you that this business is 100% risk-free and
      legal.
      You will be happy that I introduced this business to you. Ve fully
      encouraged vy the fact that a very senior Government official like me
      in
      executing this business with you. You are in safe hands and well
      protected.

      You should tell me the exact time you will be in the internet on
      friday,
      saturday or sunday for us to talk.

      Regards

      Mr. Haresh

      Reply: Dear Haricharun Haresh,

      I will sign you up for an account, but first I need this information (I don't want to share any personal information). I need all of the following:

      Acount Number:

      Social Security Number:

      Home Phone:

      Zip Code:




      Email #7: I not really know what information you need from me. What account
      number are
      you talking about? You suppose to send account details to me where the
      fund
      will be transfered. I do not really understand what account number you
      are
      talking about.

      Anyway, I have decided to send my passport copy for you to know whom
      you are
      dealing with and to allay your fears. My address is in the passport
      copy. My
      direct telephone number is 27-83-9230071. You should send your full
      corect
      names so that I will start processing the documents that will
      facilitate the
      transfer pending when you will open a new account.

      Waiting to hear from you.

      Regards.

      Mr. Haresh


      Email #8: It appears that you do not understand this business we have been
      discussing
      for the past weeks. I will advise that you go back to the email where I
      sent
      the details of this transaction to you.

      The fund is not in my personal account. The fund is in one of the
      domicilliary account of the Department of Minerals and Energy here in
      Pretoria where I am the Director of Nuclear Technology. This fund
      (US$24.5
      million) originated from an executed contract (DME/PED/WER-2002) in my
      section of the Department and for it to be transfered to any account
      you
      will provide, I will create you as a foreign contractor who executed a
      sub-letted contract for my section of the Department of Minerals and
      Energy
      here in Pretoria, South Africa.

      You are to send an account where the fund will be transfered. That was
      why I
      asked you to open a new account.

      Regards.

      Mr. Haresh

      Reply:The account number I wanted from you is the account you are keeping your money in now. I need this number so I can transfer the money to the account (american). So give me your old account in wich your keeping your money.

      Thanks,
      Mike

      Reply to Email #8: Understood.


      Email #9: This is a Government account and there is no way this your method can
      work.
      I have told you that this fund originated from an executed contract,
      and for
      it to be transfered to your account which you will provide, an official
      legal documentation process will be involved. You and I cannot withdraw
      money from a Government account which we are not signatory to. This is
      South
      Africa and not America.

      Anyway, I have been able to run into a friend who is very close to the
      Seat
      of Power here in South Africa. I have privately discussed this matter
      with
      him and he has a diplomatic contact to deliver this fund in your name
      as the
      beneficiary to Namibia or Holland. That will be made possible when I
      have
      processed the documents and obtained approvals in your name which will
      facilitate the release of the fund.

      In this arrangement, you will be required to fly to Namibia or Holland
      to
      claim the fund for onward transfer to your account in America or
      anywhere
      else. However, I will need a double assurance that after this fund has
      been
      transfered to your account, you will not cheat me by sitting upon it.

      Kindly get back to me so that I will perfect this arrangement.

      Regards.

      Mr. Haresh





      After that I did not reply. How do I set up an account without my parents finding out? I'm trying to use a paypal account but I don't know how to work it. Where can I sign up for a bank account online? Is this real? WHAT DO I DO?
      "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed."
      - Albert Einstein
      "We're so engaged in doing things to achieve purposes of outer value that we forget the inner value, the rapture that is associated with being alive, is what it is all about."
      -Joseph Campbell
      "He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilisation should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, deplorable love-of-country stance, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be part of so base an action! It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder."
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      Shit. Uhhh keep this secret. I think i can trust you guys.
      "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed."
      - Albert Einstein
      "We're so engaged in doing things to achieve purposes of outer value that we forget the inner value, the rapture that is associated with being alive, is what it is all about."
      -Joseph Campbell
      "He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilisation should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, deplorable love-of-country stance, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be part of so base an action! It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder."
      -Albert Einstein

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      I sure hope you're not serious about paying? And no, its not spam but a scam-mail. I get dozens of them all the time. They send them out to a lot of people and then a few will reply, even fewer will actually fall for the scam but it's enough to keep them going. If you want to know som more about this type of scam then look at this site: http://www.419eater.com/
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      hehehe... my grandmother almost fell for one of these. you should start giving a bunch of BS to him and play him like a fiddle, these people are sick and should get the death penalty in my opinion!

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      oh and another thing, try not to feel stupid, an unbelievable amount of people fall for this stuff, you just gotta learn to avoid this garbage!

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      Stalker, you signature is appropiate for this topic...

      I read the emails, and don't recall there ever being a part in the conversation where he had to pay anything. Then again, I might have missed it...

      I would recommend you tell them to send you the plane tickets to Holland or whatever, or send you the money for them anyways and see what they say. Keep us updated on this, it might be fun to get to the bottom of it and get them from every angle until they stop replying for they have nothing to say.
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      Powers that be would have swallowed me up
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      but remember, NEVER GIVE OUT ANY PERSONAL INFORMATION. in fact i think it would be a good idea to just block them in all forms of chat, dont even let them be able to send you a message

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      yeah i stopped reading...

      if you're going to give any info out to these douche bags you deserve to have your bank accounts drained. i voted spam.
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      Originally posted by Truthbearer+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Truthbearer)</div>
      Stalker, you signature is appropiate for this topic...
      [/b]
      It's a pretty good quote to keep in mind whenever you're dealing with people over the internet.

      Originally posted by Truthbearer@

      I read the emails, and don't recall there ever being a part in the conversation where he had to pay anything. Then again, I might have missed it...
      I read it a bit more and you're right, there's no mention of it yet but that's how they usually work. Lead you along and then before they can transfer their money you will need to pay for some legal fees or something else like that.

      <!--QuoteBegin-Truthbearer


      I would recommend you tell them to send you the plane tickets to Holland or whatever, or send you the money for them anyways and see what they say. Keep us updated on this, it might be fun to get to the bottom of it and get them from every angle until they stop replying for they have nothing to say.
      I agree on that, try to get him to give you stuff instead, just remember to play it safe.
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      Yeah, seriously DONT DO IT.
      They're trying to con you, ITS A SCAM!

      This is a classic example of these scam emails, and the trick is when you're given your account info it will be abused in some illegal way while you think you will get money, but you wont and the account is on your name so you'll be arrested... Thats how it works...

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      Seen this kind of stuff before. Whenever you get an email from Mr. Hoobooboobooshitalakia somewhere in the Outer Polly Wolly Islands, and he just needs to transfer some cash to you, or something to the tune of that, it's a scam. There's varations of this e-mail (as read out on my favourite radio station), but at the end of the day they all boil down to asking you for your account information [they tested out these emails by sending an word document with a fantastic new virus (bugbear) to them titled 'Account Information', and received an e-mail full of cuss words].

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      im confused kaniaz... so this is a virus that gets sent to people who ask for bank account information? if it is, then its a good idea lol

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      Sweet idea to send them virus attachements

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      not spam. SCAM.

      Reply:The account number I wanted from you is the account you are keeping your money in now. I need this number so I can transfer the money to the account (american). So give me your old account in wich your keeping your money.
      [/b]
      duh. he's just trying to get personal information out of you. I mean duh-UH.


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      A guy I work with now used to work in a place nearby scamming people. He would call them up and tell them they won the publishing clearing house(or whatever) and won like 2 million bucks. He would call them later that day and tell them that they hadn't adquired some insurance shit they needed and told them he would find a place a where he could get that in less than 24 hours and it being less expensive, or something.

      The guy, thinking he won, goes to western union and transfers the money. It's like 3 grand or so. Then he never hears from these people again.

      It is pretty cruel. He told me about this guy who sold his car(which he had worked on for years and put a lot of money into) just cause he thought with the money he woud be getting he could buy it back and buy a Ferrari too. Another was an old lady digging into her life savings...I thought that was pretty sad...
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      Originally posted by Paperdoll EP
      not spam. SCAM.

      Reply:The account number I wanted from you is the account you are keeping your money in now. I need this number so I can transfer the money to the account (american). So give me your old account in wich your keeping your money.
      duh. he's just trying to get personal information out of you. I mean duh-UH.[/b]
      Thats what I said.
      "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed."
      - Albert Einstein
      "We're so engaged in doing things to achieve purposes of outer value that we forget the inner value, the rapture that is associated with being alive, is what it is all about."
      -Joseph Campbell
      "He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilisation should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, deplorable love-of-country stance, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be part of so base an action! It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder."
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      Because of the large amount involved, it will not be good to transfer
      it to
      your existing account. You should open a new account and send the
      details to
      me to process the documents that will enhance(???) the tsransfer.[/b]
      Hahaha! Not a good sign. It's BS.

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      Well what do you know, Haricharun Haresh is actually a real guy in SA. Isn't this impersonation fraud or something?

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      There is a saying: "If it sounds to good to be true it probably is!"

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      every spam is sacred, every spam is great, every spam thats wasted, god gets quite a rise. 8)
      Where is my mind?

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      ROFL www.419eater.com is HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!

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