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      Okay so I got the job I went for..... But....

      ....I am not sure what to do now. This is my situation:

      Okay I didn't tell anyone this as I didn't want to curse it, but I went for a new, higher paying job, and have been going through the interview process for the past month. I never had any expectations of actually getting the job since a lot of higher placed people had gone for it both internally and externally. But I got a call today offering me the role, now...

      I work for a very large international financial institution, the company makes billions, and I am in a very good position, my exposure to senior management is great and I like to think I am very good at my job. And what is good I love my job too. But, I have been asking for more money, and my pay rises have been below what I would have expected for the job I do. I have spoken to my bosses, but doesn't look like I will be getting the rises I want.

      So after getting this offer today and given it was out of the blue as didn't expect the job, I don't know what to do so looking for some advice.

      Has anyone ever been in the situation where they can leave a job they love for a lot more money? I have a meeting with the guy who offered me the job tomorrow to discuss contracts and pay, but I felt gutted to have to leave a job I love just for more money, but if I want to get anywhere and make some real money to be financially secure for the future this is something I feel I have to do. I think I could be happy in this new job, but would be starting at the bottom again.... Have you sacrificed a good happy job for more money? Did you regret it? Did it work out for the best?

      I think deep down I am going to accept, but just looking for some advice or reassurance that I am not making a big mistake. Oh and some congratulations lol

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      Do you need a job which pays more money or are you living comfortably at the moment?
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      Its always nice to have more money. I need more money, thats why I have been asking my bosses for more... So yes, money at the moment is my priority over job satisfaction.

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      Omg!!! Congratulations!!!

      Now:

      1) Is this a job that you will enjoy doing? Because if you won't like the job, the higher salary will not make getting up in the morning any easier.

      2) Does this job take up less, more, or the same amount of time?

      3) Is it any closer to where you live than your current job?

      4) Do you foresee promotions in this job within a reasonable amount of time?

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      Well congratulations!

      Priorities are everything.

      I've turned down many much better paying positions over the years, in favor of the rather odd collection of business ownership and involvement I'm in right now. I have what I need, and no amount of money is worth abandoning my health, freedom and peace of mind over.

      That's me though. The end of our "family years" is in sight. We have successful business ventures and more ideas behind them, and the "day job" I hold offers me more comfort and security than I would have ever dreamed possible. I could quite literally triple my current income were I to go back into the corporate world as a plant manager or engineer/project leader, and have had opportunities to do so.

      Where are you in your life? Are you earning enough? Is there reasonable expectation that your job will keep you secure and satisfied with your accomplishments for the foreseeable future? Is there a "peace of mind" cost that is going to be paid here? Does the new position have the long-term potentials you desire? Will you be more or less free to live your life away from work? What is that worth to you?

      Tough call. It is awesome that you went for it and "won." It is even more impressive that you are taking the time and effort to evaluate the REAL value of this opportunity.

      Best of luck to you in whatever you choose to do!
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      First off congratulations on the job offer, its obvious that you are capable of the job if you got offered it. Now you know what i mean when i was talking to you about not moving to another job because of the pay, its similar, however i've never had a job so i can't relate to you, but i can offer as much advice as i can.

      I think you have a few options, i mean you could stay with your current job, be happy, after all its good if were happy in life eh? But then again money is also needed to guarantee us a future we want, say a better house or a good holiday or what not, its different for all of us. I think that even though you love the job your in at the moment it may be a good idea to take the job offer. But you have to base your decisions on whether it will benefit you or not and whether it will hold you down, i mean i'm sure you wouldn't of opted for the job if you didn't want to do it.

      I think you should base each decision on what it can offer and which you value most, if you can live off the pay you get at the moment and you are happy then by all means continue, but if you feel you need a little bit more money to continue with your life then by all means go for it. But at the end of the day you make the job what it is, its up to you whether or not you enjoy it, you may end up enjoying it.

      Its more money or standard pay, but if getting more money costs your happiness then i say don't go for it, whats the point in making lots of money over years and not being happy, you could end up in a bad position.

      Once again, you wouldn't have opted for the job if you didn't want to do it.

      I would like to offer more help but i feel that due to my age i cannot, i've never been in a situation of such, maybe in tonights conversation we can talk about it.


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      Adam, I think I've been on both sides of this coin - and unfortunately there's just too many things that play a role in such a decision: you have family to support, new job secure or not, your age, etc.

      About a year ago I passed up a job that I thought was ideal for me. Very creative people working there, doing the type of work I had done in the past, enjoyed and was comfortable with - small to medium size company that was expanding, and most of all they were very enthusiastic about having me on their team. But, they couldn't necessarily offer what I was already making at my current job - and I would have to sell my house and move. Moving would consider if this job was out of state or far away. But it was just far enough to where I couldn't drive to work, but not far enough that warranted the process of looking for new house, etc.

      To this day, I still wonder what would have happened had I taken the chance.

      ON THE OTHER HAND

      I'm doing ok where I am now - comfortable. Am I happy? Well, not sure. I've been "looking around" up till just recently when I decided that maybe I just need time to figure out exactly my problem is before making a jump. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

      So, you should look at your situation. Are you having financial issues right now? Then maybe you NEED to take this new job. If not, and you're young (20's), you got plenty of time to build up some experience and take a better position when the time comes. If you have a family to support, making a move is risky. If not, you could always take the shot - if it doesn't work out, you won't be out on the street.

      I don't know if any of that helped - but best of luck with whichever you decide.

      Oh... and CONGRATS!!

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      Adam, first off congratulations on getting offered a job you went for but never really thought you'd get!

      You've been given great advice and I, myself, have never been in that position.. but my husband has.

      My husband loved his job but raises/promotions weren't coming his way. When he was approached by another company offering higher pay/better chance for advancement.. he hesitated.. but only for a moment. He felt a sense of loyalty to the company that he worked for but he also realized that those in upper management KNEW what he wanted (higher salary/promotion) and they were not promising when those things would be given to him (if ever).

      My husband knew where he wanted to be financially in the future so money was an issue (plus he's not in his 20s and he had a family to consider).

      He made the move and has not regretted it.

      As you've already stated, you think deep down that you're going to accept, but you're just looking for some advice or reassurance that you're not making a big mistake.

      Hindsight is always 20/20 but, if you go for it.. leave any regrets/doubts behind you and embrace the new opportunity!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Clairity View Post
      Hindsight is always 20/20 but, if you go for it.. leave any regrets/doubts behind you and embrace the new opportunity!
      AMEN TO THAT!!!!

      Pick your reality and go with it... whether you go for the new or stay with the old. Second-guessing is not very often constructive.
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      Yes this is a tough call to make. I'm sort of in a similar position. I am an assistant manager at my current job but I could get another job elsewhere that would also work around my school schedule as well as pay me more but I would be adding more pressure to the crew I'm with by leaving. I'm still thinking it over since I could REALLY use a pay increase. I think you should go for it. You don't know how much you will enjoy/hate your new job until you get to do it.

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      I would hate working for a 'giant economical business', or whatever it was, in either position.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant View Post
      Omg!!! Congratulations!!!

      Now:

      1) Is this a job that you will enjoy doing? Because if you won't like the job, the higher salary will not make getting up in the morning any easier.

      2) Does this job take up less, more, or the same amount of time?

      3) Is it any closer to where you live than your current job?

      4) Do you foresee promotions in this job within a reasonable amount of time?
      Thanks I think I will enjoy it, but I am unsure as have not done it for this team so dont know. So I am second guessing I will. But I hope so. The job is in the same office for the same company so takes the same time. Answer 3 the same, In the same company, same office. I think promotions wise well, I get to turn my salary into a daily rate when I eventually contract work in the future, which would triple my income.

      Quote Originally Posted by pj View Post
      Well congratulations!

      Priorities are everything.

      I've turned down many much better paying positions over the years, in favor of the rather odd collection of business ownership and involvement I'm in right now. I have what I need, and no amount of money is worth abandoning my health, freedom and peace of mind over.

      That's me though. The end of our "family years" is in sight. We have successful business ventures and more ideas behind them, and the "day job" I hold offers me more comfort and security than I would have ever dreamed possible. I could quite literally triple my current income were I to go back into the corporate world as a plant manager or engineer/project leader, and have had opportunities to do so.

      Where are you in your life? Are you earning enough? Is there reasonable expectation that your job will keep you secure and satisfied with your accomplishments for the foreseeable future? Is there a "peace of mind" cost that is going to be paid here? Does the new position have the long-term potentials you desire? Will you be more or less free to live your life away from work? What is that worth to you?

      Tough call. It is awesome that you went for it and "won." It is even more impressive that you are taking the time and effort to evaluate the REAL value of this opportunity.

      Best of luck to you in whatever you choose to do!
      In life I am 25 recently single, so living on my own, but already thinking about the future. I would like to be able to offer my future kids and wife the life I never had, so willing to take the sacrifice now. The potential to advance is amazing and I will be able to become self employed in a few years commanding a daily rate of upwards of $400/$800 a day. But I need to work at it now for a few years, but the sacrifice is give up happiness now for money in the future later.

      Quote Originally Posted by Lucid Seeker View Post
      First off congratulations on the job offer, its obvious that you are capable of the job if you got offered it. Now you know what i mean when i was talking to you about not moving to another job because of the pay, its similar, however i've never had a job so i can't relate to you, but i can offer as much advice as i can.

      I think you have a few options, i mean you could stay with your current job, be happy, after all its good if were happy in life eh? But then again money is also needed to guarantee us a future we want, say a better house or a good holiday or what not, its different for all of us. I think that even though you love the job your in at the moment it may be a good idea to take the job offer. But you have to base your decisions on whether it will benefit you or not and whether it will hold you down, i mean i'm sure you wouldn't of opted for the job if you didn't want to do it.

      I think you should base each decision on what it can offer and which you value most, if you can live off the pay you get at the moment and you are happy then by all means continue, but if you feel you need a little bit more money to continue with your life then by all means go for it. But at the end of the day you make the job what it is, its up to you whether or not you enjoy it, you may end up enjoying it.

      Its more money or standard pay, but if getting more money costs your happiness then i say don't go for it, whats the point in making lots of money over years and not being happy, you could end up in a bad position.

      Once again, you wouldn't have opted for the job if you didn't want to do it.

      I would like to offer more help but i feel that due to my age i cannot, i've never been in a situation of such, maybe in tonights conversation we can talk about it.
      I went for the job because I thought my boss would pay me to stay, but I dont think he has the resources to pay me what I want, so I am going to leave by the looks of it. I think I will enjoy the job, I have worked for the team already in another capacity, I have helped them out when short, so I know what they are about etc so wont be anything new. I just think although the money is like much more the job might not be the best step.

      Quote Originally Posted by Tornado Joe View Post
      Adam, I think I've been on both sides of this coin - and unfortunately there's just too many things that play a role in such a decision: you have family to support, new job secure or not, your age, etc.

      About a year ago I passed up a job that I thought was ideal for me. Very creative people working there, doing the type of work I had done in the past, enjoyed and was comfortable with - small to medium size company that was expanding, and most of all they were very enthusiastic about having me on their team. But, they couldn't necessarily offer what I was already making at my current job - and I would have to sell my house and move. Moving would consider if this job was out of state or far away. But it was just far enough to where I couldn't drive to work, but not far enough that warranted the process of looking for new house, etc.

      To this day, I still wonder what would have happened had I taken the chance.

      ON THE OTHER HAND

      I'm doing ok where I am now - comfortable. Am I happy? Well, not sure. I've been "looking around" up till just recently when I decided that maybe I just need time to figure out exactly my problem is before making a jump. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

      So, you should look at your situation. Are you having financial issues right now? Then maybe you NEED to take this new job. If not, and you're young (20's), you got plenty of time to build up some experience and take a better position when the time comes. If you have a family to support, making a move is risky. If not, you could always take the shot - if it doesn't work out, you won't be out on the street.

      I don't know if any of that helped - but best of luck with whichever you decide.

      Oh... and CONGRATS!!
      I am 25 so mid 20's. I am comfortable and live a very good life compared to my friends, but I am the worst critique on my life, I always think I should be doing better, and I want to make people proud of me and I like to think people are proud of what I have achieve, so family aspect, when I have a family, they should be proud should I take this, but I don't have one right now, so this is really me just setting up my future for my wife/kids whatever the future holds to have a very nice and comfortable life that I never had.

      Quote Originally Posted by Clairity View Post
      Adam, first off congratulations on getting offered a job you went for but never really thought you'd get!

      You've been given great advice and I, myself, have never been in that position.. but my husband has.

      My husband loved his job but raises/promotions weren't coming his way. When he was approached by another company offering higher pay/better chance for advancement.. he hesitated.. but only for a moment. He felt a sense of loyalty to the company that he worked for but he also realized that those in upper management KNEW what he wanted (higher salary/promotion) and they were not promising when those things would be given to him (if ever).

      My husband knew where he wanted to be financially in the future so money was an issue (plus he's not in his 20s and he had a family to consider).

      He made the move and has not regretted it.

      As you've already stated, you think deep down that you're going to accept, but you're just looking for some advice or reassurance that you're not making a big mistake.

      Hindsight is always 20/20 but, if you go for it.. leave any regrets/doubts behind you and embrace the new opportunity!
      Thanks Clairity, I think as I said I will take it. And all I am doing this for is because I know if I ever find someone to be with like as a partner for life and to have children with I know this opportunity will allow me to provide for them in a way I was never fortunate to experience. So this for me is a completely selfless move, okay I might have more money now, but in the future will allow me to sacrifice happiness now for a comfortable future for mu children, should I be lucky enough to have any.

      Quote Originally Posted by Merck View Post
      Yes this is a tough call to make. I'm sort of in a similar position. I am an assistant manager at my current job but I could get another job elsewhere that would also work around my school schedule as well as pay me more but I would be adding more pressure to the crew I'm with by leaving. I'm still thinking it over since I could REALLY use a pay increase. I think you should go for it. You don't know how much you will enjoy/hate your new job until you get to do it.
      Thanks mate, as said I think I will go for it, if all else fails, I know I am liked enough in the company to seek something similar

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      Quote Originally Posted by Neruo View Post
      I would hate working for a 'giant economical business', or whatever it was, in either position.
      Why is that?

      There are so many high powered people that you get to interact with them because of the role you are in it gives you a sense of achievement...

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      Sorry, I didn't read all of the responses. But you said you've been going through the interview process for a month now. Would you have done that if you didn't desire the job? I'd say take it. It obviously meant enough to you to go for it in the first place.

      Of course, if you've come to feel that you may not like the new job then reconsider. But, you did want it for a reason. Now's your chance - seize it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaught View Post
      Sorry, I didn't read all of the responses. But you said you've been going through the interview process for a month now. Would you have done that if you didn't desire the job? I'd say take it. It obviously meant enough to you to go for it in the first place.

      Of course, if you've come to feel that you may not like the new job then reconsider. But, you did want it for a reason. Now's your chance - seize it.
      Thanks, I appreciate your answer. I do desire the job, well I did when I went for it, the money is almost double what I am on now, but the 'fun' I have in my current role has been enough for me to stay for the past year.

      As I said I think I will go for it, but just think money over happiness might be a mistake. Although I may be happy in the job, it's a risk there that I am going to take I think

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      Well like you said earlier, potentially sacrificing happiness for a short period of your life isn't too bad a thing. You can always learn to be on a budget if you decide one day to take a lower paying job.

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      Lower paying job? I was taught NEVER to do that So for me I am always taught for go for the big win. Meaning more money - All I am interested in is providing my family (in the future) with everything then can want/need. I guess I thought I would have longer to do that, but haveing spoken to you guys and others, being 26 I dont really have much chance now for myself and need to plan for the future....

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      Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
      As I said I think I will go for it, but just think money over happiness might be a mistake. Although I may be happy in the job, it's a risk there that I am going to take I think
      Hey, I hear you, man. I downgraded from a relatively high-paying job to one making half as much several years ago. The stress and BS just wasn't worth it to me. So I understand the trade-off involved.

      Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
      I guess I thought I would have longer to do that, but haveing spoken to you guys and others, being 26 I dont really have much chance now for myself and need to plan for the future....
      Imagine when you hit 34 I kind of feel like I've run out of time for myself and it's a bit nerve-wrecking. If I ever figure it out I'll let you know. Until then, enjoy yourself when you can. Take the job you can stand doing for the next X number of years.

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      Okay so I have met with my new boss, and discussed a few things, and awaiting my official acceptance letter - so guess this is it, onwards and upwards

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      Excelsior!
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      I'm glad you made your mind up, i'm sure you'll make the most of it mate Best of luck with the job!


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      Carpe diem!

      (hey, I'm just following pj's lead!)

      Congrats!

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      Well after weeks of negotiations, I have today accepted the job. I am now awaiting the start date.

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      Congrats! Do you have to give 2 weeks notice at your current job?

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      Congratulations!!

      Did they meet all your demands.. (I mean "requests")?

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