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      Yucca Mountain

      I was just wondering what people who live in other parts of the country think about Yucca mountain. I was wondering if there are any people who like the idea because I know everyone here hates it. A lot of people complain about how stupid the government is some times and I can tell why, the person who came up with the idea had to be a moron.

      First off they want to place it right next to one of the fastest growing cities in the US. Thats a good start, then when there is a problem it can kill millions of people. And there will be a problem. It has to last like 10,000 years, but there are so many problems with the location. They found that the water dripping into it will erode the containers, and there are historys of big(huge?) earth quakes in the area. Yea there might be 200 years between them so its not an everyday problem but it has to last 10,000 years and it only takes one. Of course its on a bunch of smaller fault lines so maybe the smaller earth quakes can damage it first. There are a lot of other problems with the containers too, a lot of people are saying they wont take the heat from the waste and they will leak.

      Of course thats our problem, only people living in the area. No one else needs to worry, oh wait we don't have magic teleporters so they are going to have to ship the 70,000 tons of nuclear waste across the ENTIRE US. That was a real smart move, lets pick the farthest place in the country to ship it to. They have like 20,000 trains loads to send and every nuclear power plant is on the east coast, way over on the opposite end of the country. Thats just an accident waiting to happen. How trains are set up now, there is a very good chance there could be an accident. There was over 2000 train derailments in 2003. Of course its only nuclear waste so if one or two crash and leak stuff all over the place it shouldn't kill to many people.

      I am sure we will win the war against the terrorest before they start using it though. Atleast they better hope so because they have no plans to protect the 20,000 train loads that are going across the entire country. Of course even if that did make plans to protect it from terrorest I am not sure how you can guard a set of tracks which goes across the entire US through 45 states.

      Sorry for the rant but they are basicly looking for a shortcut and ramming it down our throats. What really bugs me is they had a list of places they where going to look at to find the best place to place it. They picked Nevada then ignored all the rest on the list without even checking them, and if they had there are far better places than where they want to put it.

      So what do you think?

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      i have no idea what you're talking about. do you have an article or something?
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      They going to turn Yucca Mountain in Nevada into a nuclear repository for all the US nuclear waste. Its nothing new, they been planning it for years. They been building it while everyone argues over how safe it is. If you do a search for it I am sure you can find out a lot about it.

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      I guess people really don't care what we do with high level nuclear waste. As long as you don't see it, who cares where it goes.

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      nuclear power is our friend.
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      Talking about the left over radioactive waste though. Its not just from power plants either but nuclear weapons too.

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      I guess that answers my question.

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      well dude, give us an article to read. if you don't you turn it into a homework assignment and the attitude around an internet forum is general that of laziness. i know nothing on the topic... if i were to see a link explaining the situation and giving some facts i might be able to formulate an opinion and discuss it.
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      here, i'll give you an example...

      *insert article here*

      Private Property May Become Preserved *
      Thursday, July 01, 2004 *

      KING COUNTY, Wash. Residents of King County, Wash., will only be able to build on 10 percent of their land, according to a new law being considered by the county government, which, if enacted, will be the most restrictive land use law in the nation. *

      Known as the 65-10 Rule (search), it calls for landowners to set aside 65 percent of their property and keep it in its natural, vegetative state. According to the rule, nothing can be built on this land, and if a tree is cut down, for example, it must be replanted. Building anything is out of the question.

      Most of the residents who will be directly affected by the regulations those who own property in the rural areas of the country are fuming. They see the new regulations as a land grab and a violation of their property rights.

      \"My take is it's stealing out and out stealing,\" said county resident Marshall Brenden. \"They're taking 65 percent of your land that you fought for years to pay for, paid mortgages on and now you can't use it.\"

      But supporters and environmentalists say personal property rights do not trump the rights of a larger community to save the eco-system (search).

      \"We're trying to keep the rural area a place that isn't just McMansions and ball courts, but instead has those natural processes,\" said Tim Trohimovich of the group 1000 Friends of Washington (search), which aims to promote healthy communities and cities while protecting farmland and forests.[/b]
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      government should not be in the business of taking private property from citizens. it is lunacy for the government to prevent you from using your own property and then tax you for the same property. plus more and more public land is being cut off from public use under the guise of environmentalism. people really need to start getting mad about this kind of stuff.

      *end*
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      I kind of assumed people would of atleast heard of it, even if they never heard of the problems with it. I guess not though.

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      k, it seems that the people against the yucca mountain thing are against nuclear power in general. something i'm not against. it's a good source of power. also, nevada seems like a good location to store it... they already have nuclear test facilities out there... and it's not like all the waste is coming from back east... i know that within 50 miles of my house there's a raytheon facility that deals in missiles... there's a lockheed martin facility in colorodo and i'm sure there are many more scattered across the west.

      so if you're against nuclear power, sure you'll be pissed... but if you see it as a viable means of powering the nation you probably won't have a problems with it... and i don't.
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      I am not sure what earthquakes, floods and bad transportation has to do with being anti nuclear power. I don't have a problem with nuclear power. All the power planets are on the east coast though. They recently decided to put stuff from weapons there too though so I am not sure where that is comming from but most is still comming from the east.

      My real problem is that there are a lot of earth quakes in nevada, and other safety things. I really don't care what goes in there, I just don't want it comming out.

      Stuff like this one
      http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/.../513582135.html

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