Thread: Is it really any surprise that terrorism exists?

Originally Posted by Oneironaught

[URL]They want people killed for INSULTING ISLAM?

If we enforced that rule for people who have insulted the United States, we'd quickly go extinct as a species.

Originally Posted by ethen

If we enforced that rule for people who have insulted the United States, we'd quickly go extinct as a species.

Exactly. How sensitive can those people really be? They were raised to take offence to everything and everyone that doesn't bow to the idiocy they preach. They are raised to take a militant approach to impose their views and traditions on the world. A lot of people think I'm paranoid, making leaps in logic or blaming innocents. But the problem is right there in our face - the world's face - and until we wake up and have the courage to identify the problem in a straightforward, no BS manner and get our collective head out of the sand, we stand no chance of any kind of long-term success.

It's modern day Nazi hatred. The Jews are once again still the main focus of radial, extermination mentality. But, they are only the beginning. The world is the ultimate target for these insane oppressors. The so-called leaders must be extinguished and the course of mentality must be nipped in the bud.

By the way, when I said that their children's songs, stories, textbooks and television is nothing more than hatred and propaganda I was being dead serious. No exaggeration - no embellishment. The lyrics those children are singing in school and the prayers they are required to say are so vial you'd shit your pants. I need to type up some of the transcripts so you folks can see exactly what kind of stuff I'm talking about. You'll be shocked and appalled. You'll think I made it up it's so incredibly deviant from what we know to be right, decent, moral, or even remotely acceptable. You'll also understand just how deep and serious the problem roots.

What must change is the way people are being raised from the ground up. Until the evil interpretation of their ideology is altered (and those who drive it for their personal power grabs are removed/killed), the problem will never go away or lessen at all. The scariest part is that the radical Islam population is growing by leaps and bounds.

Yeah.

Flying to an Arab country is the closest we will ever get to traveling back in time. They're in the middle ages now. It's quite likely that some Arab guy will one day find out that rationality, humanism and tolerance are actually pretty nice. He'll want to spread the word around the world only to find that his and a few neighboring countries finished last in the race for enlightenment. I wonder what Kant would have looked like if he had been Arab...

I forgot about this story. I find it really disturbing that people seem to look for reasons to hate each other. Religion can be an easy excuse. It only makes me want to live even more peacefully though.

People promote their religion in order to promote the actions that they support. The Middle East has suffered through dozens of grave injustices in the last century, and groups have continuously emerged that support violent resistance to each new enemy. Over time, religious rationalizations for violent opposition became accepted practice in some areas of the Middle East, and that opposition has taken the form of what appear to be frivolous and trivial disputes, though what is actually occurring is a knee-jerk cultural reaction to what is perceived as an attack or a prelude to an attack.

I don't think Muslims are especially vulnerable to cultures of violence, nor that they are too weak-willed to stand against such cultures. As many overseas may see it, small groups of people in the Middle East possess such a culture and manifest it by condemning foreigners or, in the worst case, committing acts of terrorism. On the other hand, small groups of people in the west possess such a culture and manifest it by condemning foreigners and launching invasions of foreign countries. If mainstream Muslims have not been fervent enough in their opposition of violence, the same may apply to Christians.

What seems lacking in today's world are leaders respected in both the West and the Middle East who can lead a movement toward peace. There seem to be many warlords and no pacifists to oppose them.

It's more than just the Middle East, which I agree has suffered due to colonialism, etc. There are also millions and millions of moderate Muslims thru out the world who never say a word against the actions of the fundamentalists, and they share some of the responsibility for that reason.

I'm surprised they didn't punish the children in the class too; surely they deserved a few lashes each for suggesting the name.

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

There are also millions and millions of moderate Muslims thru out the world who never say a word against the actions of the fundamentalists, and they share some of the responsibility for that reason.

Thank you. That's precisely my point when I say that the non-radical Muslim base needs to stand up and say "Hey, they don't speak for us." And they need to speak out against the evil acts being perpetrated by the in-your-face extremists. After all, how are we supposed to believe the Muslims who claim to be innocent standers-by when they only fuel the problem by remaining silent.

In fairness, there are some with the courage to speak out. But they are few and far between. And they sure aren't putting themselves out there to be seen and hear. Sure, many are afraid to speak out (and with good reason). But, to remain silent is as much guilty as playing a part in the greater problem.

Good Muslims, I beg of thee: Speak up or lose your voice.

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

I'm surprised they didn't punish the children in the class too; surely they deserved a few lashes each for suggesting the name.

Really What I find funny is that Islam seems to have no problem with the Messiah complex they exhibit when they name their children "Mohamed" (and there are a LOT of Mohameds out there: a LOT) yet, God Allah forbid they use the name for anything else. It's a ridiculous double standard. Quite characteristic of the core problem, I think.

I think a similar demand must be made of Christians in the western world. We hear that a lot of mainstream Christians oppose violence committed in the name of Christianity, but it is not nearly as vocal and emphatic as it should be. Bishops, Sheikhs, priests, imams, and rabbis should all be united in their opposition of murder committed in the name of religion.

Who will unite them?

Did you know that those Danes that drew supposedly offensive islam related cartoons now have bounties on their heads (from Al-Qaeda I believe)? Nothing small either, in the tens of thousands of dollars (and a bonus if they were "slaughtered like a pig"). That must... suck...

What the fuck is terrorism?

Originally Posted by R.D.735

Who will unite them?

We should probably hope that they don't unite. That could only be bad if they joined forces; rational people would have even less of a chance of changing the world. Not that I have much hope as it is.

Luckily they never will overcome their differences, I'm sure. They'd rather kill people than admit they are all wrong.

That whole thing is bollucks. She goes over there voluntarilly to teach kids and the teachers ( on how to teach ). The kids name the stupid thing Mohammed and she gets the blame. Now there are people outside the prison chanting for her to be hung. If my crappy excuse for a country had any balls we'd get her out there ASAP!

God if the situation was reversed nothing would've happened.