new matrix (now with spoilers!)

**jill1978** · 10-22-2003 11:17 PM

New matrix comes out soon....Any predictions.I hope they answer why they wear sunglasses all the time, my husband says it just looks cool, but the #3 is suppose to answer all our questions....Like in the famous fight scene with all the agent smiths neo finally creates that wave and flies away....why did'nt he do that to begin with....sounds like a lucid dream to me, some control but not always complete control

**wasup** · 10-22-2003 11:18 PM

Matrix 3? Don't you mean Matrix reloaded?

**jill1978** · 10-22-2003 11:57 PM

no #3 matrix revealed it comes out november 6th

**Aneas** · 10-23-2003 02:07 AM

Matrix Revolutions

**icedawg** · 10-23-2003 03:19 AM

Originally posted by jill1978
Like in the famous fight scene with all the agent smiths neo finally creates that wave and flies away....why did'nt he do that to begin with....sounds like a lucid dream to me, some control but not always complete control

A couple of my friends have wondered the same thing, but I think I have the answer (at least, they always say, "Oh yeah..." after I suggest it to them). Remember when Neo was going to visit the Oracle and he meets up with her guardian (or whatever)? He hints to Neo that in order to truly know someone, you must fight him/her. Thus, I'm guessing he stayed to fight that agent for so long simply to understand him better and gain an idea of exactly what he was up against. At least, that's my guess...

**nerve** · 10-23-2003 05:14 AM

hey, makes sense to me

**Serinanth** · 10-23-2003 06:13 AM

*griz at IceDawg*

So far these movies have freaked me out, I am always traveling to worlds that I must learn the rules, so that I can bend and break them if possible, Alot of people did not like the second movie...
I liked it more than the first, it delves deeper into reality itself and people dont like it being shown to them because its frightening.

I dont mean a reality in which we are slaves to machines, I mean in a reality in which we are aware.... on all levels...I know many people that can see the extraordinary in life but choose not to do a thing about it because they want a normal simple life...

/rant off/

**DreamCoil** · 10-23-2003 06:38 AM

People want a simple life, they don't want to face reality, that's why we have entertainment to fill time and take us away from all the bad stuff.
Maybe a person would be ready for the kind of extraordinary awarness your talking about Serinanth, but not people... to big a shock...
A person is smart, people are dumb panicy idiots.

**O'nus** · 11-01-2003 11:26 PM

Originally posted by icedawg+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(icedawg)</div>

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Like in the famous fight scene with all the agent smiths neo finally creates that wave and flies away....why did'nt he do that to begin with....sounds like a lucid dream to me, some control but not always complete control

A couple of my friends have wondered the same thing, but I think I have the answer (at least, they always say, \"Oh yeah...\" after I suggest it to them). Remember when Neo was going to visit the Oracle and he meets up with her guardian (or whatever)? He hints to Neo that in order to truly know someone, you must fight him/her. Thus, I'm guessing he stayed to fight that agent for so long simply to understand him better and gain an idea of exactly what he was up against. At least, that's my guess...[/b]

In reality, he probably would have flown away as soon as possible, but, this is a movie.. you gotta have action. That's the real reason,

**liquid** · 11-02-2003 12:09 AM

He knows hes not going to die right away. The guy can dodge/stop bullets and not even the hand-to-the-heart cloning method agent smith tried on him worked. So why the heck would he run away. It makes perfect since that he would stay to fight maybe even for a soul purpose of having a little fun...

**O'nus** · 11-02-2003 12:12 AM

Originally posted by liquid
He knows hes not going to die right away. The guy can dodge/stop bullets and not even the hand-to-the-heart cloning method agent smith tried on him worked. So why the heck would he run away. It makes perfect since that he would stay to fight maybe even for a soul purpose of having a little fun...

Because they weren't playing fair!!

Regardless, the most important question still remains un-answered:

Is there a spoon?!

Also, did anyone else noticed that "Neo" is another word jumbled up from "One"?

~ NeoNeoNeo : O'nus

**liquid** · 11-02-2003 12:17 AM

No I didnt actually...

But did YOU ever notice that his house number in the first Matrix was 101

Theres so many interesting facts in that movie, especially concerning the names for everything...

Trinity, Nebuchanezer, those two have something to do with religion, forgot what though, someone let me know if you know

**O'nus** · 11-02-2003 12:22 AM

This will answer all of you questions!! Click here now![/url]

**liquid** · 11-02-2003 12:27 AM

sorry it doesnt work...

The site opens up with that little blue t.v. thing, and then i press play, but nothing plays. If I right click anywhere on the site it says, welcome to *square* *square* *square*...(it shows little squares, it doesnt actually say "square."

???

**O'nus** · 11-02-2003 12:29 AM

This link should work!!!

**jill1978** · 11-02-2003 12:33 AM

their ship had a number on it that is a bible verse...their are alot of christian referenses like a modern story of jesus

**dougdrums** · 11-02-2003 03:51 PM

There is an essay on here somewhere that talks about religion: http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_c...l_category.html

Trinity = Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Trinity in the movie plays a close God role because of the "Reserection" of Neo, or "The One".

Cypher = Judas

Morpheous would be close to John.

**Serinanth** · 11-02-2003 04:44 PM

There is no spoon...

Its a SPORK!

**O'nus** · 11-02-2003 08:37 PM

Originally posted by Serinanth
There is no spoon...

Its a SPORK!

*Commits ritual suicide*

**dougdrums** · 11-03-2003 04:16 AM

Hah, that'd be funny. No it wouldn't...

**Seeker** · 11-03-2003 01:38 PM

Watched Matrix Reloaded last night for the first time. The plot was more involved and complex than the first.
I give it two thumbs up on the plot.
However, at 2 hours 18 minutes, it was just too long.
If they would have shaved 20 minutes off of some of the fight scenes and the scenes where they were showing the machines, it would have been better.

Being a programmer myself, I really liked the parts where they were using back doors to get into area's.

**Second Attention** · 11-03-2003 05:30 PM

Hell, if they had laid of the action for a few seconds and explained shit a little better, the movie would've r0x0red much more... but it was still good.

**Silver Sphere** · 11-03-2003 09:22 PM

It seemed to me that they just didn't know what kind of movie they were trying to make. I like philosophical movies but I don't think they were really pulling it off all that well. The fight sequences seemed to happen almost randomly and I didn't really like any of them.