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      A'hoy,

      During my psychology studies today, I began to think of the reasoning behind the large interest males have for female homosexuals... Or, at least, what the psychoanalysis is for the fixation of two females posing in provocative poses, etc.

      Attempting my own psychoanalysis at it (considering I am attracted to the lesbian scene myself), I figured it would be best to come to the foundation of all character, where personality is essentially created; childhood.

      I attempted free association while thinking of two females and nothing really comes to mind except distorted thoughts of attempts at explaining my fixation instead of childhood memories... (A recurring problem which is very agrivating) So, I simply started to theorise:

      Perhaps the fixation of two females playfully posing together is derived from the Oedipus complex. Perhaps it is derived from the childhood fixation on the mother and the sexual attachment along with other female figures as a child. When combing, let's say, a mother and her sister (your aunt), in a room and the child walks in on the two changing, fantasies entail of the two together. Or perhaps not.

      Perhaps the fixation is motivated from fantasies of intruding the girls bathroom as a child and finding the girls all together in some suggestive scene (or what can be interpreted to the horny childs mind as suggestive). Or pherhaps not..

      I am really having trouble analyzing this fixation and am really interested in what others have to say (namely females... besides; "Cause men are horny, gross, oink oinkers!").

      Look forward to any feedback.

      Edit: I created this thread in assumption that people who read believe in the psychoanalysis of dreams and sexuality. Not to debate, but to try and find the analysis of lesbian fixation. If I offend anyone by creaing this topic, please PM me, although it is truly not my intention to do so whatsoever. I am also overlooking the concept of, "God just made us that way" or "Because, you're just born like that", I am attempting psychoanalysis. Okies! Thank yew!

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      ...after thinking about it for awhile...the only thing of real interest that comes to my mind, is that i find it generally true that females can attract other females almost as easily as they can males in many cases...this may, perhaps simply be human sexuality, but the reason you see the difference between homosexual males and females is there is a very large stigma against homosexual males and a much smaller stigma against homosexual females...though this is caused by the male fascination in female homosexuals...hrmm circular logic, gotta love it...

      ...perhaps it is simply from the generally larger sexual appetite of males...y'know, ask a man whats the best thing in the world, they reply 'woman!' ask whats better, 'two women!'

      ...perhaps due to the fact that many men (women too i suppose, to some extent) are very ego-centric, and see other men as competitors as far as love life is concerned, so thus, if say in a porn there is a guy having sex with a woman, then, that guy is getting what watcher wants, and while he can imagine himself doing whatever the guy is, the competition is still there, and its still winning...on the other hand, a woman is what he wants to achieve, as a goal, and without a man, but simply another woman, which the man deos not see as competition, well then, theres no competition, but twice the bounty...

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      Attracted to one female? Double your pleasure with double-mint twins. (My lame joke with serious meaning behind it)

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      Originally posted by Death-Wuad
      Attracted to one female? Double your pleasure with double-mint twins. (My lame joke with serious meaning behind it)
      Haha! I remember the double-mint twins!!!!!

      Hmmmm, O'nus, I'm not completely sure about the "Oedipus complex" explaination, unless it works for fathers and daughters too. Because I admit that I get off on seeing 2 guys, or the thought of having 2 at once. Something about all that extra testosterone just really gets my blood boiling. Don't really know where that fixation comes from though.

      Let us know when you figure it all out man. Will save me a few trips to my shrink .

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      Some of what Werburn said seems to go in the same direction that I am.

      I believe it's probably to do with the fact that men are far more visually and physically sexual than women. Not that women aren't, but I find that most women place more importance on the relationship itself than men do.
      Once again, not implying that all men just want the sex

      Generalisations I guess.
      But deep inside we still harbour the feelings of our gender based instincts, whether we practice them that way or not.

      So basically, what I'm getting down to I think, is that men aren't turned off of the idea of two women doing what the man would like to do to them anyway. Like someone said, two for the price of one
      However, a man on a man is disturbing because some/many guys (eg me) would not help but think occasionally of the physical attributes of the sexual relationship.

      A woman would find a lesbian situation disturbing because the relationship would be unusual. And would likely find the gay male situation a little *less* disturbing. (but not necessarily exciting)

      Hopefully someone understands all that drivel

      In Ophelia's case, I believe she's just way too horny
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      I think half it is because a man doesn't want to see another naked man so its a lot better to just replace the man with a woman, then you have two. Then the other half is two people do twice as much so you get to see a lot more.

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      it's hawt
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      When I first saw this topic, I thought OMG! What has someone done. Then I saw the author and knew it would be an interesting discussion.

      I was tempted for a minute to say that Alric hit it on the head (or bottom hehe), but I think it goes deeper than that.

      Think of the lucid experience a member here recently posted about being female and having sex with another female. There was nothing visual there. Think again of the people that undergo sex changes. Male to female changes are the most prevelant.

      Perhaps it does indeed have something to do with everyones upbringing that females, especially mothers are the main source of love and compassion in the world.

      I've been pondering this for a number of years now and have no answer.

      I believe, though, that it is more acceptable than male homosexuality because we are still a very male oriented world.
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      Men don't like all the gay stuff and they don't want to even think about it, so if at all possible they don't want to see a naked man. Woman don't seem to mind as much if they happen to see another girl though.

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      Originally posted by Alric
      Men don't like all the gay stuff and they don't want to even think about it, so if at all possible they don't want to see a naked man. Woman don't seem to mind as much if they happen to see another girl though.
      Because women place more importance in emotion and relationship than visuals and physical acts.
      And also because naked women... lets face it... are a lot easier on the eye than a naked guy
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      WARNING: What you are about to read may be potentially enlightening and make you learn something.

      However, I can't think of anything to say except "uh, yeah".

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      Originally posted by OpheliaBlue
      Hmmmm, O'nus, I'm not completely sure about the \"Oedipus complex\" explaination, unless it works for fathers and daughters too. Because I admit that I get off on seeing 2 guys, or the thought of having 2 at once. Something about all that extra testosterone just really gets my blood boiling. Don't really know where that fixation comes from though. *
      I agree with you Ophelia, the thought of two guys can be exciting!!!

      Originally posted by Placebo
      A woman would find a lesbian situation disturbing because the relationship would be unusual. And would likely find the gay male situation a little *less* disturbing. (but not necessarily exciting)

      Hopefully someone understands all that drivel

      In Ophelia's case, I believe she's just way too horny
      I don't find two women disturbing. I don't find two men together disturbing. two men or two women... whatever the situation may be if it is love then it is simply that love.

      But back on subject, I think that two women together (for men) is simply that.... two is better than one.
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      And also because naked women... lets face it... are a lot easier on the eye than a naked guy[/b]
      You know, I'd have to agree with that.. even though I love men and I love naked men. I've heard this debate before, and that was one of the most common points brought up.

      I agree with you Ophelia, the thought of two guys can be exciting!!! [/b]
      Yup, agree too! Why is it that so many guys are repulsed by that idea, though?


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      I guess guys are so interested in lesbians cause . . . I don't know, it's just . . . well for some it's . . . a sexual turn-on I guess. Females look sexy together.
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      I was wandering about it myself.

      Well, my reasoning was:

      1) there are more to the picture/video/whatever (more then just 1 girl)

      2) there's no competition from males.

      3) there's real lust/desire and it's not fully satisfied (have trouble wording this one)

      4) when you watch porn (like many males watch live real lesbians ) you fantasize and imagining yourself with 2 girls is much better

      5) you know you arent likely to have sex with 2 lesbians (exept in a LD. Wow . great idea :0 ), so it makes it more desireable..

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      Originally posted by Ev
      I was wandering about it myself.

      Well, my reasoning was:

      1) there are more to the picture/video/whatever (more then just 1 girl)

      2) there's no competition from males.

      3) there's real lust/desire and it's not fully satisfied (have trouble wording this one)

      4) when you watch porn (like many males watch live real lesbians ) you fantasize and imagining yourself with 2 girls is much better

      5) you know you arent likely to have sex with 2 lesbians (exept in a LD. Wow . great idea :0 ), so it makes it more desireable..
      Exactly what I was tryin to say!
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      Very simple, it's the American Consumer culture blending into other aspects of life. What's better than one car, TWO! Or a really good looking car! Or TWO OMG.

      I mean, you can't really have sex with two women at the same time obviously, so it's kind of a ownership male domination thing. Concubines anyone?

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      hmm... how do yall feel about 3 lesbians then (or in the girls's case 3 men)? would that be better than 2? what about a group of the same gender?... damn that would be some fun

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      Originally posted by smoovD
      hmm... how do yall feel about 3 lesbians then (or in the girls's case 3 men)? would that be better than 2? what about a group of the same gender?... damn that would be some fun
      Mmmm, orgies..

      For me though, it'd have to be a group of guys that I already really liked.. otherwise it'd kind of get confusing? I'd much rather focus on two people.


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      with sexual conquests you want to take it to the "next level" in order to make the experience more powerful. maybe guys just see lesbians as an attainable level of dirtiness.

      have you ever heard that old joke? ...

      Q: what's better than a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?
      A: two peanut butter and jelly sandwiches!

      it's kind of like that, only with boobs. what's better than one pair of boobs? TWO PAIRS OF BOOBS!

      i think i went off topic there hold on.

      ok, i assume you're looking for a a more freudian outlook on this... something like sex rules our every desire? i really choose not to buy into that because i just disagree on so many levels, but it does seem that in this case the men are being ruled by lust, not love. so it's entirely possible that 'most' men have a deep attachment to the female figure... it's just a matter of man's greed... wanting more female figure than he can love.

      i don't know... i'm tired.
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      I grew annoyed at freud somewhere near the part about feeling sexual about his mother.

      The reason guys are repulsed by two guys, is once again, because guys are more visual and physical about their thoughts on sex. Thus 2 naked guys conjures up the visions of what they might do in a separate room somewhere. At least for me... Call me screwed up... whatever

      And 2 lesbians might be impossible to have sex with, but once again, guys aren't thinking of the technicalities. They think of the visuals, and physical confrontations.

      However 2 bisexuals would work... hmm...
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      Originally posted by Ev

      4) when you watch porn (like many males watch live real lesbians ) you fantasize and imagining yourself with 2 girls is much better
      Speak for yourself hehe

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      Originally posted by dougdrums+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dougdrums)</div>
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      4) when you watch porn (like many males watch live real lesbians ) you fantasize and imagining yourself with 2 girls is much better
      Speak for yourself hehe[/b]
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      so, O'nus, you never posted a follow-up...in fact, you often do that, and it pisses me off

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