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      Election Time! Who Would You Vote For?

      Hello all, I just thought it would be interesting to see how the fall election is shaping up.
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      if you put underage it would of made the youngins feel better

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      Everyone is welcome to take part in the poll.
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      I would vote, but im underaged. But I would've voted for Kerry.

      I choose him because IMO Kerry is the lesser of the two evils. I dont know why, but I just hate bush so much. hated him ever since he came into office. I dont have a real reason. It's just the vibe I get off from him, and i dont like it

      Curiosity killed the cat but at least it didnt die an ignorant bastard

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      Originally posted by nightowl
      It's just the vibe I get off from him, and i dont like it
      It's called stupid.

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      yeah bush isn't fit for office. and a vote for nader is essentially a vote for bush... therefore by the process of elimination i'm voting for al pacino.
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      therefore by the process of elimination i'm voting for al pacino.[/b]
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      wasup-you may be right...

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      Wayne Coyne would probably be my second choice.

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      go BOB DOLE!


      erm....oh yeah, that was a few years ago...he still has my vote though.
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      i'm not american so I dont really know what the fuck is going on, all I know is 99% of the rest of the world would like to see bush get speared by an angry mob of osama-bin laden fans. And then they would rape his speared ass, because all them osamas secretly like assholes.

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      So... what I gathered from this is:

      If I vote for Bush, then that's bad.
      If I vote for Kerry, that's still bad.
      If I vote for Nader, that's essentially voting for bush, so that's bad too.


      Tsk, tsk, tsk...this is why communism worked out SOOO much better.

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      they should all just nuke the fuckign moon. The moon is the problem of everything. Tidal waves, pigeons and people who think that the colour olive is a nice colour

      they should all be slain. WIth rusty spoons.

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      i'm voting for frank stallone.[/img]
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      Originally posted by Joseph_Stalin
      Tsk, tsk, tsk...this is why communism worked out SOOO much better.
      right...
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      Isn't that nice? None beats them all put togather. That is saying something.

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      Voting is just giving in to thier way of life. So I dare eveyone to stay home this election season and show these politicians that you're not playing thier games. Puppet A or puppet B? Kerry and Bush are good buddy's(Skull and Bones. woo woo!) Who gives a shit, I'm going to sleep.
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      uhhh then you have no right to bitch about which puppet gets elected. *gets on soap box* no one listen to this man. you're not "giving into their way of life" by going to the polls... you're doing what you can to influence the politics that run your life... if you don't like the idea of politicians running your life... telling you how much you're going to be taxed and telling you where your tax dollars are going i suggest you move because that's how it works here. i'm fucking sick of political apathy... i did a 30 page report on political apathy in teens and i have to say... after all my surveying... after all my researching i'm thoroughly disgusted by america’s youth... you're a bunch of whining bitches who get pissed when bush is elected but you're too fucking lazy to do something about it. get off your ass and get involved... if you don't make the small gesture of going to the polls i don't want to hear you bitching about the people in office... i'd rather have a liar than someone who doesn't give a shit. you damn quitters.



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      In Soviet Russia, president choose people!


      See, all is much simpler, yes? Mother Russia is very cold, but very simple, no?

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      See you've obviosuly missed my point. I'm not wasting my time whining about it. I AM doing something about. I'm living my life the way I see fit. I'm not voting because I don't believe that our votes have anything to do with the outcome. You'll never see me complaining about my life because these politicians like to play messed up power games.

      uhhh then you have no right to bitch about which puppet gets elected[/b]
      everyone has the right to bitch. And anyways who's btching? I choose to ignore them. Big difference.

      if you don't like the idea of politicians running your life... telling you how much you're going to be taxed and telling you where your tax dollars are going i suggest you move because that's how it works here[/b]
      The whole money system is thiers, not mine, so I can live my life without worrying about it. Just because they tell me that this is how it is, doesn't mean it's how it is in my life. Why should I move? Because I don't want to live the way some rich old white guys live, across the country, that have nothing to do with my life? No thanks I'll stay(until I can get to Brazil that is)

      i'm fucking sick of political apathy... i did a 30 page report on political apathy in teens and i have to say... after all my surveying... after all my researching i'm thoroughly disgusted by america’s youth... you're a bunch of whining bitches who get pissed when bush is elected but you're too fucking lazy to do something about it.[/b]
      Who's whining now?
      And like I said, I am doing something about it. I'm ignoring it. VOting would be like telling them that I agree with thier system.
      get off your ass and get involved... if you don't make the small gesture of going to the polls i don't want to hear you bitching about the people in office... i'd rather have a liar than someone who doesn't give a shit.[/b]
      YOu'd rather have a liar? I'd rather have neither. And again, I didn't bitch about anything. The only bitching seems to be coming from your direction. And as for the polls, and voting. It's like telling an athiest "If you don't like the way it is, you should be praying!" Well, I don't live that way, thanks.
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      You can ignore them but if you basicly sit around doing nothing you really can't complain. Yea you can complain but people are going to ignore you right back so theres no real point in it. Voting isn't agreeing with them. You could always vote for a third party, might not win, might not stand a chance, but atleast your voting.

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      I'm not sure whether I'll vote for Nader or Kerry. Every position I've heard Kerry state has been "I'm just like Bush, but less so." It seems pointless to swap one plutocrat for another.

      At the same time, Bush poses an unprecedented threat to our Constitutional checks and balances, our environment, our reputation and place in the world economy, and generally the quality of life of every human being on earth who isn't chasing dollar signs. Kerry would do little to improve the situation, but he would do less to make it worse.

      Voting for Nader would not effect the outcome of this election, I know. It would, however, continue building a party with values that bear some resemblance to my own, a party which has more people in office every year and has some interest in deposing our corporate overseers rather than appeasing them.

      This whole conservative/liberal dichotomy is a smoke screen. The Democrats are now the conservative party: they want to maintain the status quo of the last fifty years, giving handouts to the underpriveleged to keep them quiet while getting fat off the system themselves. Republicans, on the other hand, are attempting some plutocratic revolution with a religious facade, where might (measured in dollars) makes right and outgroups are openly persecuted. These are both lousy choices.

      So the question for November: is it more important to stop Bush, or to start building something better? I don't know yet.
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      You can ignore them but if you basicly sit around doing nothing you really can't complain. Yea you can complain but people are going to ignore you right back so theres no real point in it. Voting isn't agreeing with them. You could always vote for a third party, might not win, might not stand a chance, but atleast your voting.[/b]
      Voting is agreeing with the system we have. Voting is telling them that I agree with the system ,of voting in poloticians in, to run things for us. Voting far Nader is still agreeing with the system we have in place. Voting for Harry Brown is still giving in. Like saying "I don't like your game, but I'll play it anyways in an attempt to destroy it!" . I don't agree with mob rule so I'm not gonna vote. And like I said before, I'm not complaining. The world is the way it is, and I'm not wasting my time complaining. I just choose to ignore it because it has nothing to do with my daily life. "Polotics is for people who don't believe in the inevitability of change" People have globablly been doing the same stupid shit for thousands of years. It's an endless cycle or ridiculosuness. So why get upset, and get involved in these sick polotics? A waste of my time.
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      Originally posted by gameover+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gameover)</div>
      The whole money system is thiers, not mine, so I can live my life without worrying about it. Just because they tell me that this is how it is, doesn't mean it's how it is in my life. Why should I move? Because I don't want to live the way some rich old white guys live, across the country, that have nothing to do with my life? No thanks I'll stay(until I can get to Brazil that is)[/b]
      uhhh and how will you do this? did you steel the computer that you're using right now? are you pirating the internet connection? because if you're not i fail to see any force behind your words.

      Originally posted by gameover@
      Who's whining now?
      And like I said, I am doing something about it. I'm ignoring it. VOting would be like telling them that I agree with thier system.
      you obviously don't get the measure in which i used the word whining. it's ok to complain... that's how things get fixed... but when you complain about something that you're indifferent to people tend to call you a dumbass. you don't agree with the system? i'll say it again, leave... because that's the system... that's how it works... whether you're a cynic or not. you can claim that your vote has no merit... that it's a waste of time... but that doesn't make it true. if you knew anything about democracy you'd know that your vote counts on so many levels. local, state, national.

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      YOu'd rather have a liar? I'd rather have neither. And again, I didn't bitch about anything. The only bitching seems to be coming from your direction. And as for the polls, and voting. It's like telling an athiest \"If you don't like the way it is, you should be praying!\" Well, I don't live that way, thanks.
      your rational is mind numbing. here's a better situation.... one that better depicts what’s going on... say that we know beyond any doubt that there is a god (democratic government)... the religious man prays (voter)... the atheist who's so convinced that there is no god chooses not to pray... then complains about the rules set forth by that god. my point is... just because you think voting counts for nothing doesn’t make it true. this nation was formed around voting and it has been a cornerstone of american life since the beginning... and to think that it's worthless is so incredibly short sighted and irresponsible... it's sickening.

      p.s. brazil sucks! go argentina!
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      uhhh and how will you do this? did you steel the computer that you're using right now? are you pirating the internet connection? because if you're not i fail to see any force behind your words. [/b]
      because I use money doesn't mean it's what I live by. If you go to Maui you'll see a whole culture of people that live thier own way and don't live by the dollar, even though of course they use it to get food and things. I live in the world that is immediately around me, and money is. But this doesn't make it a value of mine, or something I'm going to vote about. I'm jsut gonna do what I have to do to get food in my mouth and a roof over my head, regardless of what random system happens to be forced upon us at the time.

      you obviously don't get the measure in which i used the word whining. it's ok to complain... that's how things get fixed...[/b]
      So when you think I'm complaining it's stupid, but when you do it, you're changing the world for the better? And anyways I tried that before, and no, it doesn't fix anything. People have been complaining about things for thousands of years and nothing changes. The same cycle of things. Over and over and over.

      but when you complain about something that you're indifferent to people tend to call you a dumbass.[/b]
      I can't even understand where this sentence came from but I thought it'd be funny to quote anyways. Who's complaining about something they're indifferent to? And is this true? People tend to call them dumbass? I bet they're really upset about that.

      you don't agree with the system? i'll say it again, leave... because that's the system... that's how it works... whether you're a cynic or not. [/b]
      So if I don't agree with the people with the guns and power, I should leave? EVerywhere I go inthe world I'm gonna find the same BS. What am I running from? Nothing. I have no complaints about the world. The world is the way it is, so I'll live my life the way I see fit, wherever I am.


      if you knew anything about democracy you'd know that your vote counts on so many levels. local, state, national. [/b]
      Look no further than the last presidential election to see how you're wrong. And lets pretend the elections are all fair. Still the only option is vote for the people who will rule. If someone tells me \"Ok slave, it's time to vote for your master\" I'll say \"Fuck you\" and walk away. You're blind if you can't see that everywhere politics is a big, sick web of corruption. Democracy's a joke.

      your rational is mind numbing. [/b]
      I apologize for all numbing caused by my rationale

      just because you think voting counts for nothing doesn’t make it true[/b]
      I'm saying it has no place in my values. You can vote all you want if it makes you happy. I don't really care. But I see it as a contradiction of my way of life, so I choose not to. Is that ok with you or do I have to leave?
      you don't agree with the system? i'll say it again, leave...[/b]
      After all thats the way of America right! Agree or get the hell out!

      p.s. brazil sucks! go argentina! [/b]
      ummmm...yeah. Now we're getting somewhere...
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      Your presidential vote counts for nothing.

      It's the electoral college that matters. Put more into voting for your governors and senators than in your presidents. That's how the system works, this isn't a direct democracy, idiots. That's what everyone assumes.

      Anyways, if we even DID have power, I would go with Bush, the lesser of two Evils politically and more beneficial for the welfare of our country. I'm a nuke the middle east type.

      Kerry is a rich hypocritical bastard that never had a job in his life. He just sucked the milk out of his multiple wives. He's the most liberal commie candidate ever on the democratic ticket.

      (Communism-Socialism doesn't work BTW. A perfect system must take human err into account.)

      Agree or get the hell out? ...Must I remind you of why we're a nation in the first place? Viva la revolution!

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