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      Aliens...

      If you had a choice between aliens coming to Earth or aliens not coming to Earth, which one would you choose???

      I would choose not coming to Earth because the aliens would probably be more advanced and they could enslave us...

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      ...wait, what?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Siиdяed View Post
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      ...wait, what?
      For some odd reason I had a feeling that you would be the first to post in here... I like coincidence...

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      I would prefer them to come to earth to teach us their ways...

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      You mean one of these?

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      Quote Originally Posted by NightLife View Post
      For some odd reason I had a feeling that you would be the first to post in here... I like coincidence...
      That isn't coincidence. You used reason (ie, that I am a frequent contributor to the Off-Topic, that I was online, and so on) to hypothesise that I would post first and I did.
      If you didn't use reason, you guessed, and the reason you chose me was because my name appears throughout the Off-Topic and is startlingly memorable due to my rugged good looks and sartorial elegance, as well as the two Cyrillic letters that a Westerner from the US might not see so regularly.

      There might be other reasons. Essentially, not a coincidence.

      ...I don't even know why I objected to that. Oh noes, internets have me.

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      The thing is. We shouldn't want anyone from another planet to come here for they would be superior for they found us before we found them.

      We are sending out signals into space just in case someone will pick it up. It would suck to be killed because we were found. Hiding is always a good idea.

      It would be totally awesome if we one day would find a planet with life on as long as we don't kill em all.

      We should make then praise us!
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      Any cultural clash ends in disaster... Look at human history.

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      We have a choice whether or not aliens come to Earth? I always thought it would be their choice.

      Either way, it'd depend on the aliens. I'd probably have to meet them for lunch on the moon and see what they're like before I decide.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kushna Mufeed View Post
      We have a choice whether or not aliens come to Earth? I always thought it would be their choice.

      Either way, it'd depend on the aliens. I'd probably have to meet them for lunch on the moon and see what they're like before I decide.
      No, no, I think it's our choice...

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      We could at least stop spending money (mainly your money in the US) on finding our possible doom.

      That money could feed poor ppl instead, right? Or wth, give them to me and I'll make good use of it
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      Space exploration isn't necessarily about 'finding aliens'. It's scientific discovery of the universe, of course we should spend money on it.

      Quote Originally Posted by Dreamworld View Post
      Any cultural clash ends in disaster... Look at human history.
      Yeah. I mean, look at the British Empire in India. Abolishing native customs like burning widows with their dead husbands, or executing people by elephant stomp. Introducing law and order, a centralisation of power, beginning the abolition of the ridiculously unfair caste system, creating a unified India with the basis of industry (the railways, for example) that has allowed them to thrive in the modern era, even after gaining independence (non-violently, Americans pay attention).
      Bastards ruined India.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Siиdяed View Post
      Space exploration isn't necessarily about 'finding aliens'. It's scientific discovery of the universe, of course we should spend money on it.
      I was not talking about that... Only the searching for aliens...
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      And you were saying we shouldn't do it because they might be hostile and invade Earth and kill us all, yes?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Siиdяed View Post
      Space exploration isn't necessarily about 'finding aliens'. It's scientific discovery of the universe, of course we should spend money on it.



      Yeah. I mean, look at the British Empire in India. Abolishing native customs like burning widows with their dead husbands, or executing people by elephant stomp. Introducing law and order, a centralisation of power, beginning the abolition of the ridiculously unfair caste system, creating a unified India with the basis of industry (the railways, for example) that has allowed them to thrive in the modern era, even after gaining independence (non-violently, Americans pay attention).
      Bastards ruined India.
      White and blacks, Christians and Muslims, Nazi regime, and the best example would be the extermination of Native Americans.

      If aliens came here they must have superior intelligence to us. And may treat us like we treat animals. Although I think that aliens would go crazy for our nuclear bomb.

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      Chances are, if we find aliens, they won't even be multicellular, let alone sentient.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Spartiate View Post
      Chances are, if we find aliens, they won't even be multicellular, let alone sentient.
      Yea life alone is very rare, let alone "intelligent" life.

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      May. This is entirely speculation. And we're going to have a fundementally different subjective outlook to them. The entire history of humanity, its evolution both biologically and socially, wouldn't be there.

      I agree that if aliens come to us, reason suggests they will be technologically superior - at the very least in the field of space travel.

      To then make the jump to them 'treating us like animals' is somewhat extreme, and in no way a good enough reason to stop trying to communicate with them - for the vague chance they exist. If we don't try to find them, we're essentially giving up any scientific discovery in that field.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Siиdяed View Post
      May. This is entirely speculation. And we're going to have a fundementally different subjective outlook to them. The entire history of humanity, its evolution both biologically and socially, wouldn't be there.

      I agree that if aliens come to us, reason suggests they will be technologically superior - at the very least in the field of space travel.

      To then make the jump to them 'treating us like animals' is somewhat extreme, and in no way a good enough reason to stop trying to communicate with them - for the vague chance they exist. If we don't try to find them, we're essentially giving up any scientific discovery in that field.
      Well they would only come here for technological ideas, or land, I don't really see what else. Also I think humans on there part would treat them like animals. What would organized religions say? They are not children of God, blah blah blah. Same thing that happened to Native Americans. I think we would be ready to coincide with aliens when we are ready to coincide with ourselves. Which might be the reason aliens aren't exposing themselves to let our enter their galactic federation.
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      Again, they have an entirely different perspecive and subjectivity to us. I can't assert that they would 'only want land or technological ideas'.

      The Native American issue isn't a good example unless the aliens are colonating the Earth. The whole cultural clash between the settlers and the natives was largely exacerbated to the extent it reached because it was a constantly rising influx of newcomers who all wanted land and who all wanted prosperity.

      I think you're getting somewhat fixated on one possibility, that they arrive and are essentially humans with green skin.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Siиdяed View Post
      Again, they have an entirely different perspecive and subjectivity to us. I can't assert that they would 'only want land or technological ideas'.

      The Native American issue isn't a good example unless the aliens are colonating the Earth. The whole cultural clash between the settlers and the natives was largely exacerbated to the extent it reached because it was a constantly rising influx of newcomers who all wanted land and who all wanted prosperity.

      I think you're getting somewhat fixated on one possibility, that they arrive and are essentially humans with green skin.
      If they look anything apart from humans, it would have the same affect. Imagine if they tell us that they created us, and etc. It would cause chaos. I don't see the need of contacting aliens. It only highers the probability of something wrong happening. What about the issue with Africans? They were enslaved because they looked different and were looked down upon because of their lack of technology. An alien would come here not to make friends but for something of their benefit. If they are that different than biological life on earth, we cannot be compatible.
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      They were enslaved because Europeans found black African kings with slaves who would sell them for very little money. Human rights weren't the same as they are today, social morays and ethics were different, and it became an acceptable trade.
      They weren't necessarily enslaved because they looked different.

      You're guessing at possibilities and then asserting them.
      Why couldn't the aliens only want to make friends? You and I have already proved that social ethics and principle can change wildly within humanity, in that two centuries ago it was acceptable thought that black people were acceptable as slaves.
      Why could this alien race not have an entirely different set of ethics? Why could it not think it alright to seek out Earth just to be friends?

      Anything we assume about aliens is entirely hypothetical. Ultimately we have to find out the truth through scientific discovery, which right now entails of sending out signals in the hope they'll be picked up.

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      I think I might be contradicting myself here and I'm sorry for that... There's also a chance that these aliens are only good for transportation and they aren't superior fighters...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Siиdяed View Post
      They were enslaved because Europeans found black African kings with slaves who would sell them for very little money. Human rights weren't the same as they are today, social morays and ethics were different, and it became an acceptable trade.
      They weren't necessarily enslaved because they looked different.

      You're guessing at possibilities and then asserting them.
      Why couldn't the aliens only want to make friends? You and I have already proved that social ethics and principle can change wildly within humanity, in that two centuries ago it was acceptable thought that black people were acceptable as slaves.
      Why could this alien race not have an entirely different set of ethics? Why could it not think it alright to seek out Earth just to be friends?

      Anything we assume about aliens is entirely hypothetical. Ultimately we have to find out the truth through scientific discovery, which right now entails of sending out signals in the hope they'll be picked up.
      Its the wide range of ethics that is worrying. Whoever said an aliens ethics would be good? They could bring wellness, but could bring disaster. Why risk it if we aren't in dire help? I'm all for alien exploration, that is until we are at peace as a species.
      Last edited by Dreamworld; 04-28-2008 at 12:45 AM.

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