Thread: Guitar Hero III: Through the Fire and Flames 100% on Expert

It's a shame some people devote that much time to achieve skills like that. Imagine if they apply this to other things. Reflexas are good for martial arts, sports, that hand-slap game, maybe even drawing.

I don't get it...they move really really fast yet the players always seem to be moving their fingers slowly.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

I don't get it...they move really really fast yet the players always seem to be moving their fingers slowly.

It looks slow because he's using both hands at once, one hand has fingers behind the guitar. He's struming each note with his elbow until later on. I can see what you mean though, he just doesn't move his fingers everywhere.

Someone send them rope.

Guitar Hero is seriously the most retarded thing to hit the Earth's surface in the past 30 years.

It's too bad that very little of that talent will transfer to playing an actual guitar.

Originally Posted by skysaw

It's too bad that very little of that talent will transfer to playing an actual guitar.

Actually, I took up guitar, and I noticed that my ability to hammer on and pull off is significantly better because I played Guitar Hero.

Originally Posted by AmazeO XD

Actually, I took up guitar, and I noticed that my ability to hammer on and pull off is significantly better because I played Guitar Hero.

The difference between Guitar Hero and guitar playing is that guitar playing is about music (and not about pull-offs).

It's relevant to note that pull-offs are a technique used in the interest of creating music. You might as well be saying that guitar isn't about playing chords. Pull offs are an aspect of playing music on guitar.

Ah, Chris Chike. The only person to really do this among about 3,500 fakers.

Most notably:

Edit: And a video of this kid named Jonn getting 100% on the hardest part of the song, called "the Red Snake":


I suck ass at that song, btw, only got 300k
(also, suggestion to the staff: Put the embed video icon on the post editing thingy, that would help tons)

Originally Posted by Mark75

It's relevant to note that pull-offs are a technique used in the interest of creating music. You might as well be saying that guitar isn't about playing chords. Pull offs are an aspect of playing music on guitar.

That's besides the point. He is caught up in the idea that guitar playing is something mechanical, binary. That's not what it's about. To say that Guitar Hero helped you with pull-offs is like saying that masturbation helped you with your grip on a tennis racket... when in fact it's about swinging the racket and hitting the ball.

Originally Posted by Korittke

That's besides the point. He is caught up in the idea that guitar playing is something mechanical, binary. That's not what it's about.

But the movements (talking Guitar Hero here) are very similar. Guitar playing is "mechanical". You have to physically manipulate the instrument for it to make sound. Are you saying that training the dexterity of your fingers and learning to do so to the rhythm of music is not at all helpful to guitar playing?

Originally Posted by Mark75

But the movements (talking Guitar Hero here) are very similar. Guitar playing is "mechanical". You have to physically manipulate the instrument for it to make sound. Are you saying that training the dexterity of your fingers and learning to do so to the rhythm of music is not at all helpful to guitar playing?

No. This is indeed correct. But I reckon that the Guitar Hero guitar has ... 5? binary buttons. Whereas a real guitar has metal strings that react to pressure, bending, precision, sloppiness, build quality, stroke angle, stroke direction, pick thickness, pick position, string thickness and so on.
TL;DR: Strings aren't binary.

Yeah, I know that. What's your point? In case it wasn't clear, I was talking about in my last post were specifically the movements for doing a pull off being similar.

Originally Posted by Korittke

The difference between Guitar Hero and guitar playing is that guitar playing is about music (and not about pull-offs).

Yeah, I know. I taught myself to play piano. I was just saying that the ability to hammer on and pull off is a little better because of playing GH. How did you get "I think Guitar Hero and guitars are the same thing" out of that?

I don't get it... I thought you had to strum the notes too, not just hit the buttons? Please excuse my ignorance - I'm still on "medium"

Originally Posted by Burns

I don't get it... I thought you had to strum the notes too, not just hit the buttons? Please excuse my ignorance - I'm still on "medium"

Well, though I'm only an Uber-N00b @ guitar hero, what AmazeO is talking about are guitar-playing terms. Hammering on is taking your "fretting" fingers and slamming them on the strings so that you get a sound without strumming, and "pulling-off" is when you take those fingers and brush them off of a string, without strumming, and still get a note.

So, if they've implemented those into Guitar Hero, then you should be able to get some notes without strumming, just by either slamming on a button, or pulling off of a button, at the right time.

hmm, interesting, thanks for the explanation

I've just unlocked "Trippin On a Hole In a Paper Heart" by Stone Temple Pilots, which is awesome because we went to an STP concert on Tuesday night and it was the best concert ever! By far the best show we've ever been to. I hope they come back to town soon cuz we'll definitely go again

Originally Posted by Burns

I don't get it... I thought you had to strum the notes too, not just hit the buttons? Please excuse my ignorance - I'm still on "medium"

There are certain notes, you'll notice that have a slight glow on the top of them. Those notes don't have to be strummed, you can "hammer on", meaning go from a lower fret such as the green fret to the red fret, or "pull off" meaning go from a higher fret such as the red fret, let go of it while holding the green fret and the green fret will be played. It doesn't work with all the notes though, only specific ones, and your timing has to be pretty precise for the first two Guitar Hero's.

Yeah, the GH2 hammer-ons and pulloffs are way harder than GH3. As for GH1, they're.. well... Search "Bark at the Moon".

A super-fun technique can be used with them. It`s called tapping, and it sorta resembles the real guitar technique. What you do is take your hand off the strum bar, and hit the hammer-ons/pulloffs with both hands. Chris does it quite a few times in the video, and some sections are nearly impossible without it. Try it! A good place to start is Monsters - Bridge C.

Thanks for the tips, guys! Even when I see those glowing notes, it's not not to strum - I'm just so used to trying to strum each note. I think I have a loooong ways to go before I can do the two-handed frets!

Honestly, sometimes it's way better to strum then to try and hammer on or pulloff. In case you miss on, sometimes it can mess up the whole thing.

And Burns, as you saw in the video, how he was sometimes using both hands to tap the buttons for the really fast parts, that's because he had originally strummed and then moved his hand up quick enough to keep on "hammering-on" even though he wasn't hammering on.

Originally Posted by AmazeO XD

And Burns, as you saw in the video, how he was sometimes using both hands to tap the buttons for the really fast parts, that's because he had originally strummed and then moved his hand up quick enough to keep on "hammering-on" even though he wasn't hammering on.

ah ok. There's a lot more to playing this game than I thought! o_O

BTW, this is the closest anyone else has ever gotten to 100% of this song:

Missed 48 notes.
He messes up in some pretty stupid parts, I bet he could get it.

As for me, I'm happy if I only missed about 700 notes.

Originally Posted by suttsman

BTW, this is the closest anyone else has ever gotten to 100% of this song:

Missed 48 notes.
He messes up in some pretty stupid parts, I bet he could get it.

As for me, I'm happy if I only missed about 700 notes.

What do you mean, the original video isn't fake.