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      Lightbulb The 1,000 year old (living) man.

      Alright the topic might be slightly misleading but I tend to think differently. I have been tossing the idea back and forth as to whether or not I want to be cryogenically frozen. I was watching discovery channel the other day and on it there was this man and woman (married) who opted to have themselves, as well as their children and family pet frozen. There are a few companies who offer this particular service, they offer payment plans and everything. It's interesting and the process is less than 100K from some research I've been doing into it. Assuming all of this is legit and the process won't scar you for life after you "come back"...wouldn't it be cool to step out into a futuristic-like world? Say year 3,000 for example? Say you wanted to see year 4,000...you just step right back in and (pre-supposing conditions are favorable) you step out in year 4,000. Granted the world might be overrun and ruled by dictator-like reptilian overlords when you wake up and step out into the new world but that's a risk you'll have to take. In all seriousness though...imagine you had cancer and chose to freeze yourself on the condition that you are to be "thawed" and awakened when a cure for cancer has been found. Some people have been frozen by those reasons alone.

      If you've ever seen Vanilla Sky, that's what the process is. So what's your take on it? If you had the money, would you have yourself cryogenically frozen?
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      Nah.

      Interesting stuff though.

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      I would do it and then I would put my earnings in the bank and let it make money for me and wake up a few thousand years later and live off it!

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      hmm.. what i never understand is... how do they defrost you? Don't understand how you'd go about warming up a frozen human.. i mean haven't the cells already burst because of being frozen?
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      I read that they dont have the know-how to unfreeze a human while keeping them alive.
      And that those who have been frozen, just hope that someday they will work it out.

      Ive done 0 research on the subject though so my opinion doesnt mean anything.
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      Yes, absolutely! I can't think of any rational reason not to if I'm able.

      Quote Originally Posted by cuddleyperson View Post
      hmm.. what i never understand is... how do they defrost you? Don't understand how you'd go about warming up a frozen human.. i mean haven't the cells already burst because of being frozen?
      They pump you full of a special liquid that, when you're frozen, prevents the vast majority of damage. There's a whole science behind it, and it's certainly not something that they forgot to consider.

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      I would do it to meet B. Rodriguez.


      Speaking seriously, I don't know if I'd do a 1000 years jump, there's a considerable risk of ending up in a completely different world with no chance of fitting in (humans maybe all cyborgs or genetically engineered, or maybe extinct even), the curiosity is strong though. In the end a few hundreds would be a safer choice probably.

      But then again, you could wake up in the year 3000 and find yourself being treated like a king, an unmodified human could turn out to be a very rare thing by that time.


      Anyway, if I'm not mistaken, successfully preserving human beings is still out of our reach. Our methods of freezing the individuals are flawed and damage the bodies.
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      No way. Just think about what the environment would be like in year 3000 or 4000 or whatever.

      That couple froze their children? That's fucking murder, if you ask me.

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      Yes, absolutely! I can't think of any rational reason not to if I'm able.



      They pump you full of a special liquid that, when you're frozen, prevents the vast majority of damage. There's a whole science behind it, and it's certainly not something that they forgot to consider.
      like egg and sperm banks then i guess, but still they have "use by dates" on them because even with the extreme cold and the cells being dormant they will decay, i can't see the cells being viable after a few years really, a few decades would be pushing it.
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      If your body is frozen for maybe 500 years, there's a big danger that when you 'wake up', you won't have immunity towards most diseases, thus making a normal infection of influenza deadly.
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      Quote Originally Posted by cuddleyperson View Post
      like egg and sperm banks then i guess, but still they have "use by dates" on them because even with the extreme cold and the cells being dormant they will decay, i can't see the cells being viable after a few years really, a few decades would be pushing it.
      Not the same thing as sperm banks, really. Sperm are incredibly resistant to damage and no real structure is formed until after fertilization. Also, for a very long period after fertilization the fetus is full of stem cells, which would easily repair any damage incurred at any point.

      The main problem with freezing people is nerve damage, especially in the brain. Even a small amount of structural damage to the brain could turn someone into a retard or make them forget their life. But again, this is something that's being actively researched. They haven't overlooked it. So unless you have a scientific reason why vitrification could never work, please don't bring up the fact that you don't think it should work.

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      you never know, it could end up like FF7, how the city fell, and nature took it back.

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      I think it would be a great idea to have many people cryogenically frozen.
      If the world progresses to a point that we run short on food supply, we just open up the freezer.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Marvo View Post
      If your body is frozen for maybe 500 years, there's a big danger that when you 'wake up', you won't have immunity towards most diseases, thus making a normal infection of influenze deadly.
      Good point. But, supposing this is the future, perhaps they'll be ready to administer nice little shots as soon as you come out of your tube to keep you from dying of horrible diseases.

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      I would freeze myself for 75-125 years. Any shorter and it would be a waste of time. Any longer and I'd be taking too high of a chance that our species goes nearly extinct or a turn of events(legal or natural) causes the company holding my body to throw it out.
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      Hellz ya, I'd do this. Fuck this world, I wanna live in the next.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ClassyElf View Post
      I would freeze myself for 75-125 years. Any shorter and it would be a waste of time. Any longer and I'd be taking too high of a chance that our species goes nearly extinct or a turn of events(legal or natural) causes the company holding my body to throw it out.
      If you froze yourself for just about 30 years, when you woke up all your friends and family would be much older and their lives much different, while you were the same. Then it would really feel like you were stuck in time and left behind.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Scatterbrain View Post
      If you froze yourself for just about 30 years, when you woke up all your friends and family would be much older and their lives much different, while you were the same. Then it would really feel like you were stuck in time and left behind.
      And death is better? Again, I see no rational reason to not at least try.

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      The whole world is based on money, so what better to do than live like a caveman in the wilderness and do mushrooms for a few years and than make some money and put it in the bank and freeze you're self and wake up 30 years later and live off of it?

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      No one has made a witty reference to Futurama?

      Seriously?



      Anyway, If I was guaranteed to survive, I'd like to take it, but the main problem is when? Do you freeze at 20 and risk surviving in the distant futuristic society, or do you decide to wait until you're 98 so you can spend your life in the current time + get a short tour of the future (also risking accidental death before freezing)?


      I dunno, It's really tempting but it also means losing everyone you know.... I guess I'll hope I'm the last family member alive at some point so I can freeze my self guiltlessly.

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      Doing it right now would be foolish for me, since if I do freeze myself, I won't graduate high school or college. But then again, I could go to 3000 to meet Zoidberg...

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      Quote Originally Posted by suttsman View Post
      Doing it right now would be foolish for me, since if I do freeze myself, I won't graduate high school or college. But then again, I could go to 3000 to meet Zoidberg...
      Whose to say in 3,000 years...highschool and college will still matter? Maybe they'll have these "book pills" you can swallow that'll instantly feed your mind info.
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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      And death is better? Again, I see no rational reason to not at least try.
      We're talking about jumping years to the future, not avoiding death.



      Quote Originally Posted by Grunkie7 View Post
      No one has made a witty reference to Futurama?

      Seriously?
      Well...

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      I would do it and then I would put my earnings in the bank and let it make money for me and wake up a few thousand years later and live off it!
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      If I had the cash, I'd probably do it.

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