Trying to get friends interested in LDing

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10-11-2009, 12:47 AM
Lëzen

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Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

I don't think either of you guys understood my post.

I meant that most people simply gawk at the idea when they are told they can actually control their dreams. It's one thing to take an interest in something but realize it isn't for them for whatever reason, but it's another to shove the idea out of one's head because they think it to be ridiculous. In the case of lucid dreaming, most people, including myself, take an interest but slowly lose motivation because lucid dreaming is an extremely difficult skill to learn with hit or miss results.

...Why didn't you say that the first time? I'd have understood your post if you'd said what you meant the first time...
10-11-2009, 03:39 AM
Hidden

Yeah, none of my friends really seem interested in lucid dreaming. One even had one, but she still wasn't interested. Then again, she didn't really do anything in her lucid dream. She was just like, "this is a dream. Yay. Moving right along..."

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Originally Posted by CoLd BlooDed

Most of you are incredibly pessimistic about introducing LDs to people. It's gotta be the way you approach the situation, and how you bring it up... I've had nothing but success with introducing friends to the world of lucid dreaming, just because I manage to capture their interest every time.

I've even learned about friends who have been natural LDers their entire lives without knowing; even kids who I never would've thought to have had the ability in a million years. It's really something when you learn that just about anyone can do it.

But yeah, maybe you guys gotta work on your social skills, hahaha.

That's probably true for some of the people on this site. Or maybe you're just special. So what's your secret? :D
10-17-2009, 06:08 AM
Shaelyn

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Originally Posted by Lëzen

Whew...for a second there I almost thought your post was gonna contain broad generalizations based on personal prejudices rather than fact. Good thing I was wrong...

Let me just state, for the record, that the same can really be said about any hobby that nourishes creativity. I can honestly say that, for me, there is no activity that is more stress-relieving, anxiety-stifling, or confidence-boosting than the art of playing music. I'd hardly call people "lazy" simply for choosing one thing over another. It's not that people don't want to invest time in anything. It's that they want to invest it in something they're interested in.

...Is there really a point to this thread? Think about it. Do football fanatics really get mortally offended by the fact that there exist people who don't like football? Just sayin'.

Most everyone is mistaking my original point. It is not simply that they are disinterested, they want to learn, and are very much intrigued by the concept but once I begin to explain or give them links, they are turned off by it because a lot of them think it is too complex and just not worth it. (excuse the run on sentece. I tend to ramble)
10-17-2009, 10:34 PM
Hidden

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Originally Posted by Shaelyn

Most everyone is mistaking my original point. It is not simply that they are disinterested, they want to learn, and are very much intrigued by the concept but once I begin to explain or give them links, they are turned off by it because a lot of them think it is too complex and just not worth it. (excuse the run on sentece. I tend to ramble)

Well, that's just laziness. They can't be that into it if they aren't willing to do the research and put in the effort. If you really want then to try it, you could try explaining it in bits and pieces so it's not so overwhelming. Like first you might tell them about reality checking, then you can gradually add more tips and other techniques. Then you can start telling them about dream stabilization and control and such, maybe after they've had their first lucid.
10-18-2009, 12:13 AM
Black_Eagle

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Originally Posted by Lëzen

...Why didn't you say that the first time? I'd have understood your post if you'd said what you meant the first time...

Because I thought the way I wrote it was understandable.
10-18-2009, 12:22 AM
Supernova

I still have hopes of getting my cousin interested in lucid dreaming, other than that, the few friends I have told about it show some interest (weather feigned or legitimate) but are never interested in actually trying it.
10-21-2009, 07:55 AM
Katoh

same porblem.

I managed to get one friend interested in it.. but she got too stressed out by it and she ended up giving up in a week..

Then another one of my best friend's asked me if having LD's was voodoo related after I spent a good 30 minutes explaining to her what Lucid Dreams were.... Ooh well.. i've pretty much given up, they all think i'm crazy.. which has some truth to it.. but you know what? CRAZIES UNITE! .. or divide and conquer.. which ever works better.. :boogie:
10-29-2009, 04:26 PM
TheDreamKing

I keep it to myself because none of my friends would believe in it anyway. They would probably call the hospital to put me in the Quiet room if I talk to them about something like that... lol
10-29-2009, 11:21 PM
dajo

I think I told most of them. Sometimes I talk about it
with people I just met, but it has to be in a somewhat
comfortable conversation - at a party for example.
When I'm in the mood I'm very open about all of that.
Usually works fine. Maybe about 10 friends tried it a
little, started to write down their dreams, etc, but no
one was really keeping up and I only had one person
telling me that she was successful. (Two days after I
told her about it)
10-29-2009, 11:43 PM
cdh473

Everyone I talk to about it tries it and learns it. Lol.
I have always been socially good at convincing people of doing things.
10-30-2009, 08:15 AM
lilacalil

Yesssssss.

When I first fully learnt about LDing I flipped out and got really excited and told everyone, only to be met with disinterest or to be told that it sounded demonic lolol.

I honestly have no idea how anyone can not desperately want to LD. Who'd turn down the ability to be God while they sleep? :hrm:
10-30-2009, 06:52 PM
louie54

I for one would agree that it is all about the approach.

If you go up to someone and it goes like this:

You:Hi
Friend: Hi
You: Yeah so anyway, have you heard about lucid dreaming?
Friend: Umm... loose-id? Dreaming?
You: Yeah it's where you can control your dreams
Friends: Ummmmmm... No sounds weird, never heard of it. I don't dream

vs.

You: So I had this cool dream last night
Friend: Really? I barely remember mine.
You: Yeah I was running from the cops after I punched this guy in the face
Friend: Oh nice, I had a dream like that once. Only it was a baby.
You: Yeah sounds cool. Hey do you ever have those dreams that you like know you are dreaming?
Friend: No, sounds interesting.
You: Yeah I actually found out I was dreaming in that one when I was running from the cops, so I decided to fly, and the feeling was freaking awesome!

I just think that the topic of dreaming should already be part of the subject, then bring up "controlling your dreams".

I don't tell anybody. Only like 2 or 3 people. One of them was my girlfriend who eventually ended up having a lucid dream but was never really interested in practicing. I still sometimes tell her some of my interesting experiences.

Other than that, I tell no one really just to avoid the "what the fuck you talking about". And I also just enjoy keeping it like it's my little secret ability.

But still, who wouldn't want to do anything that the mind could allow? Doesn't make sense to me, but I'm not offended. Just confused. Sorry for the wall of text btw. And the whole punching baby thing.
11-08-2009, 01:32 AM
Shaelyn

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Originally Posted by cdh473

Everyone I talk to about it tries it and learns it. Lol.
I have always been socially good at convincing people of doing things.

You can use that wickedly to your own advantage. I would.
11-08-2009, 01:59 AM
Tushix

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Originally Posted by louie54

You: Yeah sounds cool. Hey do you ever have those dreams that your dreaming?

LOL Pretty much how I get people into it.

I've go 4 people to have an LD. One of them (my friend at school) has more or less one a night now XD
11-08-2009, 01:44 PM
knecht

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Originally Posted by Hidden

Yeah, none of my friends really seem interested in lucid dreaming.

It was the complete opposite for me! Me and a friend were comparing the dream we'd had that morning, and another guy came and had a look at them and said "Oh, are you trying to learn to lucid dream?"

Maybe I just have friends that are more weird than some though...
11-08-2009, 08:47 PM
Hidden

I wonder how he knew that you were trying to learn to LD. Maybe LDing is just better known where you live.

Once one of my friends was talking about dreams and I brought up LDing. She'd had a few but hadn't heard the term "lucid dream" before, and when I told her about inducing them she didn't seem interested in doing it. And in my English class last year we were talking about falling dreams and one guy said that he realizes he's dreaming whenever he has them. And I recently found out that one of my friends is a natural LDer, but oddly she's more interested in nonlucid dreams. So I guess I've had my share of other people knowing about LDing.
11-12-2009, 12:04 AM
Patrick

My family and friends just get really awkward and uncomfortable when I bring it up. It's probably partially my fault for just expecting them to be awkward about it, but still. I think people are generally self conscious about dreaming and discussing that thought of thing.

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