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      What happened to Movies?

      You remember Lion King, Aladdin, Jungle Book, The Aristocats, Phantasia, Fievel Goes West, The Rescuers Down Under, Robin Hood... I'm sure I missed a bunch of good ones... but you get the idea....

      Does anyone else find it incredibly depressing how High School musical, Hannah Montana etc... are coming up? Sure, we've still got Ice Age and Monster's Inc, Brother Bear... and the newer movies... but why aren't they pumping out as many cool animated musical movies like they used to?

      While we're on this topic... what is/are your favorite classic movie/s?

      Fievel Goes West is pretty high up there for me...

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      Princess and the Frog is done in the older style, a nice thing to see coming out.

      Mulan was my favorite of the animated movies.

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      Ah, the nostalgia...

      I actually wasn't so fond of the Ice Age series, to be honest. The characters weren't likable enough. Mulan was definitely one of my favorites. Jungle Book, too. Sometimes, you just can't beat the classics... Quietly protesting the 10 character limit.

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      Agreed. the classics are classics, not to be replaced. I enjoyed Mulan as well.

      Although, It's not traditional, I think all the pixar films are worth consideration, and they release one or two every year. Also, even if the Americans aren't doing much, there are the studio Ghibli films. Ponyo came out in theaters earlier this year (or last year now) and I thought it was very...classic-ish.
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      It's because the head of Disney was a fucking psychopath who fired all of the classic animators.

      I don't actually think there was a drop in classics though; I think Pixar more than made up for the loss of classic Disney.

      Luckily now John Lasseter from Pixar is in charge of Disney animation now and he's rehired all the classic animators.

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      They shut down traditional animation several years ago because CGI was becoming extremely popular, and the Disney movies coming out like Atlantis, Treasure Planet, Brother Bear and Home on the Range (all terrible, by the way), weren't making a profit. With Disney, at least these days, it's ALL about profit and nothing else.

      It's a good thing that new people are in charge over there, but I still hear new stories about how horrible it is to work there. The Princess and the Frog was great. Not quite as great as the 90s classics, but an admirable attempt.
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      The next Spider-man movie will have a walk on role by the little mermaid and belle from beauty and the beast. In-fact, they're replacing Mary Jane with Cinderella. >_>
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      Apparently they're rebooting the Spider Man franchise. How thoroughly retarded is that? Rebooting a 7-year-old film. It's a new ebb for Hollywood creativity.

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      It makes me almost hope that someday soon, all of Hollywood will collapse under its now rotten foundation, and all that will be left is the unbiased distribution medium of the internet.
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      Eh. If they revamp back to the futre, I'll be okay with that.
      Any other revamps suck.
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      So when we talk about movies we mean children's films primarily.

      There's a bigger range on offer these days. Of course there will be more shit ones.
      That and NOSTALGIA tends to block out or transform the bad parts into ironic, kitsche goodness.

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      I think Hercules was my favorite movie as a kid. And does the Road to Eldarado count as one of those back-in-the-day movies? I sort of liked it, but seems more like the ones Deery mentioned above.

      I did a report in Animation on John Lasseter, and I found out that next year pixar has a movie coming out called "King of the elves." Kind of a title that makes you wonder.

      And speaking more in general about movies, did anyone else find it odd that only like five big movies came out this summer?

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      There are a lot of good movies. You just have to find them.

      Same with music.
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      True, though I still prefer the 90's pop style. Everything nowadays is all dumb and whiny IMO.

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      I think I saw that, but all that I can think of relating to that at the moment is the Quest for Camelot

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      I don't know if this is old enough.

      But Emperor's New Groove was awesome

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      Quote Originally Posted by mindwanderer View Post
      You remember Lion King, Aladdin, Jungle Book, The Aristocats, Phantasia, Fievel Goes West, The Rescuers Down Under, Robin Hood... I'm sure I missed a bunch of good ones... but you get the idea....

      Does anyone else find it incredibly depressing how High School musical, Hannah Montana etc... are coming up? Sure, we've still got Ice Age and Monster's Inc, Brother Bear... and the newer movies... but why aren't they pumping out as many cool animated musical movies like they used to?

      While we're on this topic... what is/are your favorite classic movie/s?

      Fievel Goes West is pretty high up there for me...
      These are all childrens movies. Is this for a reason?

      Because I don't want to list classic movies of mine because there aren't any children's ones.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xedan View Post
      I think Hercules was my favorite movie as a kid. And does the Road to Eldarado count as one of those back-in-the-day movies? I sort of liked it, but seems more like the ones Deery mentioned above.
      I remember watching Road to El Dorado in the theater as a kid, and remembering how much I loved it and how it was such a cool movie, but I've seen it again recently and couldn't even finish watching it. Just....bad. It almost seemed like a religious animated film for kids.

      I did a report in Animation on John Lasseter, and I found out that next year pixar has a movie coming out called "King of the elves." Kind of a title that makes you wonder.
      I looked it up, and it's Disney studios, not Pixar. Although Pixar IS coming out with an interesting princess feature in the not-too-distant future called "The Bear and the Bow". Which is why your post got me confused.

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      True, though I still prefer the 90's pop style. Everything nowadays is all dumb and whiny IMO.
      80's is the way to go, especially for rock. Good, mature rock, to me, died with the 80s, because ever since it seems the whole rock industry has turned into grungy, gritty "Waaaahhhh, life is so horrible and I want to kill myself! Waaahhhh!"

      I mean I like Nirvana, Staind, Nickelback, Evanescence and Puddle of Mudd sometimes, but only when I'm in a certain mood to tolerate it. The rest of the time, hell, gives me the classics with level-headed, optimistic and creative rock stars who have really been around. Or maybe I'm confusing modern rock with modern metal. Which is purely modern rock and not modern metal? I think what I described is still rock, because that kind of emo rock is all I still hear on the airwaves (unless it's the classic rock station).

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      I don't know if this is old enough.

      But Emperor's New Groove was awesome
      Oh, it's old enough. I love that movie to death. In fact, that was the last Disney film ever released that I really love and respond to (and yes, I've seen Princess and the Frog).

      Quote Originally Posted by Carôusoul View Post
      These are all childrens movies. Is this for a reason?

      Because I don't want to list classic movies of mine because there aren't any children's ones.
      I'm a little confused about this thread as well, but they don't have to be regarded as exclusively children's movies. That's not what they are, really. You can sure as hell appreciate the classic 90s Disney films like Beauty and the Beast, which was nominated for an Oscar for Best Picture, without having anything to do with childhood nostalgia. Of course I can't say the same for a movie like Fievel Goes West.
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      Quote Originally Posted by DeeryTheDeer View Post

      I'm a little confused about this thread as well, but they don't have to be regarded as exclusively children's movies. That's not what they are, really. You can sure as hell appreciate the classic 90s Disney films like Beauty and the Beast, which was nominated for an Oscar for Best Picture, without having anything to do with childhood nostalgia. Of course I can't say the same for a movie like Fievel Goes West.
      But really, on the whole, they're child aimed. youuuknowww.

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      Well the one thing I loved about the old disney movies is that, while they may be child aimed, the story lines are good and they try hard to make it bearable, if not enjoyable, for adults. And personally all I remember about beauty and the beast was that a guy turned into a biped wildebeest, everything in the house was possessed, and there was an evil organ or something, right? What was that all about? I should really see that movie, because I have no idea about it anymore.

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      Thanks for All the replies!

      And yes, I shouldv'e been more specific and said 'classic children's music oriented animated films'.

      When I have kids I'm not showing them most of the garbage that has been coming out recently... I'll start in the disney's archive. Show 'em all the classics... but my worry is that in the near future there isn't gonna be many good memorable 'musicalish' animated movies for my kids.

      I sure as hell don't want 'em listening to rap or lady gaga or hanah montana or anything like that.... anyway... this whole thread started 'cause while on youtube I stumbled across a bunch of old disney classic songs (Can You feel the Love, Hakuna Matata, Bea Necessaties, Everybody wants to be a Cat)

      This isn't only about disney... it's about all the good old wholesome kids movies... but a lot of them happen to be dinsey.

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      It is also very interesting to go back and watch the classic and realize that there are sexual innuendos placed throughout the whole movie that I never picked up as a kid.

      Here's one that isn't Disney. I loved this movie


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      You know one movie I was always bewildered by as a child? The Iron Giant. I had no idea what was going on really, but didn't he end up being an alien war machine? In a childrens' movie?

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      Quote Originally Posted by DeeryTheDeer View Post
      the Disney movies coming out like Atlantis, Treasure Planet, Brother Bear and Home on the Range (all terrible, by the way)
      I liked Atlantis, Treasure Planet AND Brother Bear, and I haven't even seen the last one. Maybe they were as good as the 90s best, but they were still good movies. I wish Disney hadn't closed the traditional animations department... Sure, CGI is fancy and stuff, but drawings has more charm.
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