Thread: Australian Government Internet Censorship

Keep me posted.

Geez, it's Australia, not Pakistan. I'm surprised this is happening.

Come on now. Australian censorship is fun! We all know that the public can't decide what to view and what not to view by themselves.

Thats really terrible. I hope it wont come to pass, and I hope violence isn't needed to solve the situation.

So, what's being censored?

Originally Posted by Noogah

So, what's being censored?

The internet.

I mean, what content of the internet is being censored?

Anything they (the government) deem. Will also waste tens of millions of taxpayer dollars.

"In 2003 The Australia Institute commissioned Newspoll to ask a representative sample of Australian parents whether they would support a system that automatically filtered out internet pornography going into homes, unless adult users asked otherwise. An astonishing 93 per cent of parents were in favour, with only 5 per cent opposing it. In addition, 85 per cent expressed concern about their children seeing pornography on the internet with 61 per cent saying they are 'very concerned'."

Apparently this is a good reason to filter everyone's internet!

The ACMA blacklist will be the foundation for the censorship, and they'll have the power to extend it to any other sites they want to.

That's bullshit, there's a plethora of programs that one can download to block pornography on their home computer, there's no reason to do that to everyone.

I don't think blocking out whatever they want is any good. But I find the blocking pornography thing admirable. I mean, they probably aren't going about it the right way, but at least they're doing SOMETHING about it.

Somebody down there should start selling Guy Fawkes masks. They'd make a killing if this passes.
DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER! DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER! DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER!

balls :\

Australia really just needs to get it over with and ban Australia.

Originally Posted by Tarsier

Australia really just needs to get it over with and ban Australia.

Originally Posted by Noogah

I don't think blocking out whatever they want is any good. But I find the blocking pornography thing admirable. I mean, they probably aren't going about it the right way, but at least they're doing SOMETHING about it.

Once again, it's really easy for anyone that wants to keep pornography off of their computer to do it themselves. There's no reason to block it for everyone when all it requires is buying some software. Hell, the cost of the program is probably less than what this action will cost in taxes.

It's easy, yeah, but a lot of irresposible parents don't.

A lot of irresponsible parents abuse their kids too. Some irresponsible parents don't homeschool their children, nor do they send them to public school.

The government intervenes in both areas.

I don't think you can compare a kid watching pornography to a kid getting the shit beat out of him daily by his father or mother.

No?

I believe you can.

Unless, you think that the only significance of physical abuse is the physical trauma, which of course, is a problem.

But infliction of physical pain is not the reason abuse is bad. In fact, infliction of physical pain, when used in moderation, is an effective form of healthy discipline.

It's the mental and emotional trauma caused by the beatings that is harmful to the child's development. Present, and future. Pornography can also have major negative psychological effects.

goddammit noog

Originally Posted by Noogah

No?

Nope.

Originally Posted by Noogah

Unless, you think that the only significance of physical abuse is the physcial trauma, which of course, is a problem.

I don't recall saying that in any of my posts above.

Originally Posted by Noogah

But infliction of physical pain is not the reason abuse is bad. In fact, infliction of physical pain, when sued in moderation, is an effective form of healthy discipline.

I'll disagree with you on that one, but that's a completely different subject.

Originally Posted by Noogah

It's the mental and emotional trauma caused by the beatings that is harmful to child's development.

I agree with that.

Originally Posted by Noogah

Pornography can also have major negative psychological effects.

So, parental violence in moderation isn't necessarily a bad thing, but pornography in moderation is a bad thing?

I don't recall saying that in any of my posts above.

Well, no, I didn't say that you did.

So, parental violence in moderation isn't necessarily a bad thing, but pornography in moderation is a bad thing?

Violence, and discipline, are two very different things.

Violence is sensless, useless physical infliction of pain. Usually used as a means of venting frustration, or revenge.

Discipline is the controlled application of pain for the use of the childs own good. After all, better the pain of a spanking when he runs into the street then for the child to suffer the pain of a car crash. I think we can agree on that.

Pornography, on the other hand, is flat out bad and useless to children.

Nudity in itself may not be. Afterall, there is nudity in textbooks to illustrate the human body.

But pornography exploits the use of nudity in a bad way, just as violence exploits the use of pain in a bad way.

I'll agree with your violence vs. discipline point to an extent, but:

Originally Posted by Noogah

Pornography, on the other hand, is flat out bad and useless to children.

That's arguable. Pornography (and I'm talking about films involving two or more consenting adults) may be useless children, but it's definitely not harmful for teens who are going through puberty. Though, I doubt you'll agree with me on the issue of sexual exploration being a healthy thing. Not to mention, it's not just children who will be blocked from pornography, it's also adults, and why should the government be able to say what any individual can or can't watch*?

Originally Posted by Noogah

But pornography exploits the use of nudity in a bad way, just as violence exploits the use of pain in a bad way.

It's really hard to formulate a response to this, because this is such a poorly worded argument. I don't see any reason as to why people who want to have sex on camera should be shunned, looked down upon, or prevented from doing so, but that's just me.

* Before you throw out the snuff film/child pornography/rape card, I think it's pretty obvious that when I say that the government shouldn't be able to stop an individual from watching whatever they choose, I mean that so long as what the individual chooses to watch is legal. i.e., two or more consenting adults

Look. There are things that are less objectionable, and things that are more. There are horrible films that have been put online in the past, and things that were not so horrible. Either way, people who get into it are treading on dangerous ground. All these things fall under the category of pornography, and so therefore, I believe it's best to stay away from period.

It's an addiction. It can be costly. And, yes, it can indeed ruin relationships.

It's like picking up snakes. Not all snakes are bad, but a good deal of them are. Chances are, if you see a snake basking on a rock, you wouldn't touch him.

There are more bad, and less bad. Nonetheless, a good majority of it is bad, and that's something no filter can decide. It seems safer to just get rid of it all together. Like, in Australia.

Afterall, you can certainly live without it. Probably better than you were living with it.

Originally Posted by Noogah

It's like picking up snakes. Not all snakes are bad, but a good deal of them are. Chances are, if you see a snake basking on a rock, you wouldn't touch him.

Hahaha, awesome example.

Oh, thought it said bashing... Never mind D: